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I have really strange problem (with BIAB, not personal) with loading a song that I arranged with BIAB 2017 Everything Pak.
Having partly composed the song I saved it for later amendment. However, trying to reload the song failed.
What happens is the song appears to load and goes through the loading of instruments etc. and then starts to play.
But only the drums play, the bar cursor doesn't move and the program shows "Program Not responding".
Also, my mouse is not responding and I cannot open Task Manager and 9/0 times I have to restart my PC.
All this only happens with this one song.
I can get around it by loading a previous SGU and then open the file in question and everything works OK but not if I try to open the file in the first instance.
I have tried to open the file following amendments and re-saving as a different file name, but still no joy and it still locks up.
I have also initialised BIAB to default settings, tried MME & ASIO
The style I am using is _TBSLZ8R.STY Texas Blues Straight.

Any ideas guys?


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Hey Ovation99,

This is a pretty unique situation. From what you a describing, you are correct, it seems that there is something in this song file that is not being agreeable.

Something of this nature would be difficult to troubleshoot over the forum here. Can you please send us the project file via email to support@pgmusic.com and we will take a look at it for you.

Thanks!


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Try this:

Make a copy of the file

Open the copy in RealBand

Then Select 'Save As' and choose a Band In Box file type (see image)

See if the Saved As version can open in BiaB.

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Oh, and definitely send the file with the issue to Mikke, as suggested.


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Thanks, I'll give that a try before sending it to support.
Will let you know the outcome.


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just tried after saving in Realband and same thing, program is not reponding.
Guess I'll send the file to PG Support.


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Hi Mikke
Files just sent


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You could also upload your song file to a service such as the free Dropbox, put it in a public folder, copy the link to it, and post that link here. We can then try the song.


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I'm sitting here wondering if maybe a soft synth is causing the problem.


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Originally Posted By: ovation99
just tried after saving in Realband and same thing, program is not reponding.
Guess I'll send the file to PG Support.
Incidentally, did it play in RB? I didn't ask that before.


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Strangely it did


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I'm having a similar problem with three midi files. These are homemade with a Yamaha PSR-910 where my keyboardist friend played the songs normally by selecting a Yamaha style on the 910, setting the tempo and played the song. Saved it as a midi file. BIAB loads, decodes the chords but when I hit play, the count off begins and the screen grays out prior to the first note playing. Loads and decodes the chords in RB as well but locks up prior to the first note in RB also.

The songs play in Win Media Player.

Next step was to load the song back in BIAB and I muted all the tracks. The song played without freezing but no sound of course. I began to unmute on a per channel basis and Channel 2 was the culprit. I examined the midi events and there are a lot of control commands on that channel at the beginning but they are meaningless to me.

What is odd to me is that I use to own this very Keyboard and I've saved many many midi song files on it with never any corruption errors.

I'll put some files in dropbox and post a link and anyone is welcome to give a look and tryout. Thanks.

EDIT: Here's the Dropbox Link with the midi file, MGX and Seq projects. As I stated, the files load but go to NOT RESPONDING status before any note plays out.

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Last edited by Charlie Fogle; 11/03/18 12:28 PM.

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Hi Charlie
I have just loaded your midi ITS.MID to the melody track in BIAB and it plays fine.
And generates a chord sheet tempo is 169bpm
When I look at track 2 ch 2 in Sona
The 2 cnt events at the start of the are RPN pitch bend Sensitivity and
cnt 5 portamento time. As this is a tenor sax track I would say that they are required for the correct sound
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Thanks Mike. It must be something common to my setups in BB and RB. Fortunately, this time it was not necessary to have a midi file of the recording because I was recording the audio performance for my friend. I recently purchased Sampletank Max and wanted to play around a bit. I am able to extract individual channels so I will have some advantage. Thanks again for checking out the files. I'll leave the link up for a while in case others want to check them.


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I just tried both versions of Tunica Motel and they loaded and played fine for me.

Just to check, do you have the latest update for BIAB installed (build 520)?

Also, have you tried "Returning to factory settings" -- found under the Options menu? I've often found that when BIAB stops doing something that it used to do, returning to factory settings often helps.

Lastly, I saved Tunic Motel as Tunica Motel 3. It's available at the link below. Does this one load and play for you?

https://www.dropbox.com/s/aqheljxyjukgfl8/ovation99%20-%20Tunica%20Motel3%20%28Noel96%29.SGU?dl=1

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Hey Ovation,

We are opening the song fine on our end, it is just drums until measure 9.

If you go to Help > About Band-in-a-Box what is the three digit number after your version?

I am also wondering if there might be a preference that may be causing this.

Try This: Go to Options > Return to Factory Settings > Return MOST to Factory Settings

Are you still having issues opening the song?


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Hi Noel,
You refer to Build 520, but that's for BIAB 2018, I am running 2017 Build 471
Yes I have done a factory reset
I tried your file from Dropbox and the file wouldn't even play the drums as before. The program just locked up completely (program not responding)

As before, I loaded a previously made .SGU and then loaded the other 2 files and your from Dropbox and they played perfectly.

So the only way I can get them to play is if I load a previous file first and play part of it.
Thanks for trying it out anyway.

Also just chose any style without inputting any chords and pressed Play, let it do the count in and stop, then load my suspect files and they play as they should

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How do you open the file?

If you open the file by double-clicking on it, have you tried using the "File | Open" method and then navigating to the song's folder from within BIAB?

As you said before, this is a weird problem.

Something that I'd try is after you have the song generated and playing (when it's the second instance that you mention), try freezing all the tracks and saving. This may allow you to re-open the song without issue.


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Hi Noel,
I have tried your first suggestion and will now try freezing all tracks before saving.

Same problem, not responding.


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