I've been using Realband as a producing and arranging tool for years (one example I can share here: if you want to, search for the song "bayou child" by "eastwood" on spotify. some of it is realband, some not )
but I never got a grip on waltz realtracks. So far I've ignored this and just didn't use realband when recording songs.
I now definitely have to use it shortly, since I do have a song to produce and no musicians at hand.
maybe somebody can help me with this?
in this case we have a very very simple chord progression, each chord being played for a full 4 bars. for testing reasons currently I only even use one chord on the first beat, same results...
whenever I set the Meter to 3/4 and use a waltz realtrack (#3091 for example) the results are unusable. basically I get only "starting" samples without the sample ever just being fully played (sounding like bad holds all the time). same if I go 6/8 meter.
if I change the meter to 4/4 and use the same realtrack, I at least get fully played well sounding samples. but since the meters do not really match up, I can't believe that this is how it's supposed to work. Also with this method chord changes would not correspond to the time signature, so this can't be right, can it?
I hope you understand my problems. Thanks in advance for every help here.
Your explanation reads as though you are using RealTracks designed for 4/4 time signatures. You will obtain better results using RealTracks that are designed 3/4 time signature.
3/4 RealTracks are identified in their titles with either "34" or "Waltz" in the title. See the example screen shot below.
I experimented a bit with his mentioned realtrack (#3091) In 3/4 it is just wrong here If I try it in 4/4, it follows the tempo but the '1' is off for three bars (as expected since 3/4 and 4/4 eventually line up every few measures). For instance 1 lines up at bar 2,5,8,11,& 14
To me this particular RT is just not right. Maybe the markers were interpreted for 4/4 instead of 3/4 .. I'd consider this a specific RT issue with #3091 that should get fixed
To OP; this is not how it is supposed to work
Make your sound your own! .. I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome
first of all: thanks for your answers. It actually seems that I was getting stuck trying to get a single RT I liked to work.
I've tried around a little more and indeed there are RT's that work just fine with a 3/4 time signature setting.
so 1702, 1108, 1035 and 867 seem to work just right. Some of the swing feel RT's only seem to work properly if the check at "song has straight feel" in the song settings is not ticked, but that's to be expected.
But I've also found several more that I can't seem to get to work:
3671, 2055 and 3652 for example do not seem to work properly with a 3/4 time signature.
1300 only generates the first bar for me for some reason, no matter what I try... very strange one
so far it's around 50/50 working in 3/4. So at least for me it's not just the odd one out, there seem to be a lot of RTs not working how they should.
I didn't have time this week to check more, but since I have to do this project til xmas anyways and I do not yet know how I want it to sound, I will probably be checking out a lot of other 3/4 RTs in the next weeks and keep posting here.
I do also suspect that the RTs not working are internally marked as 4/4 or something like that, because all of them sound better on a 4/4 time signature.
so I've played around some more. very mixed bag. soundwise. I do get the feeling that many, if not most, of the waltz tracks have very limited audio material to work with and therefor create a lot of very unnatural sounding tracks with a lot of repetition. At least that would explain quite a lot of what I'm getting.
one thing that really sticks out though: every single "solist" or "background" waltz track will only generate the very first bar when the time signature is set to 3/4.
they all render correctly when it's set to 4/4, but then again, that can't be how this is meant to work, can it?
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