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Hi,
I know and appreciate copyright on artists music.
I was wondering if there are any sites to upload a cover song just for personal listening, SoundCloud do not accept copyright material.
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I think youtube doesn't have a problem with covers.
soundcloud officially says you shouldn't upload covers, but I've seen lots of people post covers over there.
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You are right Blue Attitude. YouTube is "tolerant" of covers because they have a system known as "Content Id" that reimburses the copyright owner for advertising placed on your videos.
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You could get a domain, make your own website and do what you want.
YouTube has its own license language and lawyers to interpret the laws in their favor and crush anyone who argues, but I still think it does a terrible disservice to musicians.
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youtube's tolerance of covers is apparently dictated by the original artist's wishes. Whereas some artists are OK with receiving ad revenue when their songs are streamed as covers, other artists who want to retain control of their material may opt to have covers of their songs removed.
I had a cover of an Eagles song and another of an Allman Bros song on youtube, and both got flagged as copyright violations. Youtube removed the Eagles cover, but not the Allman Bros cover. (I took them both down)
I'd probably take my chances and post to Youtube first, and if they object, THEN take it down. Chances are pretty good nobody will object.
Another way to put stuff online is with personal storage space, such as DropBox. The files aren't publicly searchable and unless you post a link nobody will find them.
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Dropbox is a good and free idea for this, Pat.
I wish YouTube had ‘opt in’ instead of allowing anything unless you (creator) notice and object. And if you do object, the full force of their lawyers comes to the aid of the copyright violator.
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Thanks everyone for your suggestions I've put it up on YouTube for now, hope they don't notice it. 
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Thanks everyone for your suggestions I've put it up on YouTube for now, hope they don't notice it. It will be automatically scanned and analyzed. You'll find out soon enough if they have any concerns. You will also have the right of reply though.
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As far as posting stuff on YT I wouldn't worry about it. Either then get a complaint or they don't. Here's an example: Only the Lonely This was from last year. I'm on keys and my sister Toni is the vocalist. A friend of the band did the video and the sound is just the camera's mic. She (the friend) was contacted by YT and it looked like it was going to be taken down but then something happened and it wasn't and I now see it's still there. Not the best sound and zero rehearsal with some coming to the island by boat, arranging for a hotel or staying with friends and other stuff. I've made a few posts in the RB forum about recording vocalists and I mentioned it was my sister and this tune was one of them I redid as a "studio version". It came out really nice, all with RB. Bob
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I think YT is probably a good choice since they have some kind of licensing arrangement with most of the publishers.
It's important that if you do post it, the songwriters get their royalties. Not only is it the right thing to do, but it should keep you from having legal action taken against you.
I have a couple of things on YT. One is a cover and another is a promo video for my duo, The Sophisticats ®, with excerpts of many covers.
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Are you sure about that, because I know Youtube will take down videos even if the original song is in the background such as a wedding?
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It will be automatically scanned and analyzed. You'll find out soon enough if they have any concerns. You will also have the right of reply though.
One trick that makes it harder for youtube's analysis algorithm to identify your song as a cover: Use Audacity to raise or lower the key by an amount that is less than a semitone. The algorithm won't be able to transpose it to a standard key and get a match. Also compressing or expanding the length of the song will make it harder to match the tempo of the two songs The closer your version is to the original, the more likely that the algorithm will make the connection. So, a third possibility is to forget the song's signature passages and make your own version of it Identifying your upload as a cover of song _______ by band _______ is a sure fire way to flag yourself. But again, not all artists will ask that you take down covers of their songs. They probably make more money from ads on their covers than they get from Pandora.
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Posting a cover online for your personal use? And on Youtube?
For personal use, keep it off the internet.
You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.comAdd nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both. The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.
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Would there really be a problem if you made it private on SoundCloud?
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Hi,
Tried uploading as private onto SoundCloud, it still removes track for copyright reasons.
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Posting a cover online for your personal use? And on Youtube?
For personal use, keep it off the internet. Right! If it is for personal use just listen to it on the computer and/or burn it onto a CD. If you have friends/family that want to hear it put it in Dropbox and give them the location.
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