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Lots of music here. Haven't tried any of the BIAB files, just downloaded some of sheet music. http://bob.bmcadvies.com/
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I just looked at this and noticed that some of the sheet music was scanned from music books. I doubt very much that this is a legal site so proceed knowing this and that you may be opening yourself up to a lawsuit.
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Me, it's not about how many times you fail, it's about how many times you get back up.
Cop, that's not how field sobriety tests work.
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Nobody's suing anybody Mario. No doubt most of this stuff is illegal to post but the worst that happens is the owner of the website gets a cease and desist letter threatening a suit if they don't take down the material.
But from the pov of a company like PGM, it's a different story. That's why the forum rules say you can't post links to copywritten material. The exception is if you post a YouTube link. Apparently being on YT provides some kind of legal cover.
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That web site has been up for a long time and i use it for the ready made Band in a Box songs ( most of them have melodies and complete registrations ) and also use the " midi " page.
I don't know or fully understand the legal implications for doing that however there appears to be some latitude when it comes to using any stuff off the internet for personal use only meaning that i will not sell it or profit from a sale from someone's intellectual property.
It seems to me that if they started suing everyone and shutting down web sites that could be the end of the world wide web.
Although, who knows, the copyright cops may be at my door soon after reading this post.
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Just keep in mind that there are music professionals making their living composing and publishing music. If that were your job, you might feel differently about sites like these.
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Nobody's suing anybody Mario. No doubt most of this stuff is illegal to post but the worst that happens is the owner of the website gets a cease and desist letter threatening a suit if they don't take down the material.
But from the pov of a company like PGM, it's a different story. That's why the forum rules say you can't post links to copywritten material. The exception is if you post a YouTube link. Apparently being on YT provides some kind of legal cover.
Bob This is exactly what I was trying to say. I was doing music for a 50's site and she got a cease and desist order threatening a lawsuit. You said it much better than I did. Thanx for straightening this out.
Me, it's not about how many times you fail, it's about how many times you get back up.
Cop, that's not how field sobriety tests work.
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Just keep in mind that there are music professionals making their living composing and publishing music. If that were your job, you might feel differently about sites like these. Matt I agree 100%.
Me, it's not about how many times you fail, it's about how many times you get back up.
Cop, that's not how field sobriety tests work.
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Your integrity, or lack thereof, is defined by what you do when no one is watching: just because it's been up for a long time - doesn't make it right, legal, or ethical.
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In BIAB you have that thing called the chord Wizard I have never had a need to use. If you use that, and then print out the chord chart, I wonder how close to toes on that line PG is for selling software that allows chord charts to be printed from copyrighted music?
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Depends on the genre, in my experience.
To get deeper, I would have to go back into your other thread, about how much music theory do you need.
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I wonder how close to toes on that line PG is for selling software that allows chord charts to be printed from copyrighted music? Since Chord Progressions aren’t something you can Copyright, the answer is not close at all. If you published a book of Chord Charts and named specific songs, you might be infringing on the title, but I’ve seen people get around that by using a different name that hinted at the song that the chord chart was for. For example, “Strolling in a Snowy Wonderland”, hints at a title.
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I wonder how close to toes on that line PG is for selling software that allows chord charts to be printed from copyrighted music? Since Chord Progressions aren’t something you can Copyright, the answer is not close at all. If you published a book of Chord Charts and named specific songs, you might be infringing on the title, but I’ve seen people get around that by using a different name that hinted at the song that the chord chart was for. For example, “Strolling in a Snowy Wonderland”, hints at a title. Now that does include an extra dimension into the whole copyright thing. In other words share the chords but don't mention the song that they are for.
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Many of the demo songs shipped with BIAB are in fact chord progressions of popular songs with no melody and a different name. They also have no harmony and especially no 'hook' in terms of an identifiable rhythm pattern or hit.
I remember at one point, someone was going to go through the demos and identify the real names of many of them. I don't recall that ever happened.
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Many of the demo songs shipped with BIAB are in fact chord progressions of popular songs with no melody and a different name. They also have no harmony and especially no 'hook' in terms of an identifiable rhythm pattern or hit.
I remember at one point, someone was going to go through the demos and identify the real names of many of them. I don't recall that ever happened.
Hey Matt, Maybe whoever that was could save a lot of time by hiring the Shazam music interface to listen and identify the songs.  Short aside, how many people remember the television game show "Name That Tune"? Did you know The Tokens, of "The Lion Sleeps Tonight" fame, were the studio band for the game show?
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I tried Shazam on BIAB when it first came out, and it wasn’t successful. Without melody or hooks, I can’t imagine it would work now.
Name that tune was fun.
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How does this work for tunes (covers or similar) one does in BIAB and uses in public as backing. I often worry about the legality of this. However, rarely gave it a thought when playing with live musos.
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The laws are likely to differ by country.
In the USA, if performers do cover songs, the venue is responsible for obtaining the proper licensing from performance rights organizations (BMI, ASCAP, SESAC).
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Every time the subject of copyright comes up it requires clarification. If you have questions about it just Google "music copyright". There are specific musicians websites that explains this in detail. Short version:
By far the NUMBER ONE THING: It doesn't matter if you're doing this for profit or not. Money has nothing to do with it. YOU CANNOT publish any musical work you do not own without permission of the rights holder. Publishing includes posting on the internet to a forum like this one. Posting includes inserting a link that goes somewhere else that has the actual music. A musical work is lyrics and melodies. Chords are ok.
Song titles. They cannot be copywritten, there are many songs with the same title. BUT it appears associating a song title with the chords crosses the line which is why PG doesn't give us the song titles to the chords of certain demo songs. I haven't specifically read that anywhere so PG is probably just being cautious.
I'm not an attorney, I don't play one on TV and I like beer with TJ's Peach Salsa and chips so what I just wrote could be total BS. If you're concerned about it, research it yourself.
Have a nice day.
EDIT: This website has apparently been up for years. Great. Think of the driving 90 miles an hour on the freeway example. You can drive 90 miles an hour all over Los Angeles for years and never get a ticket. Spend one day on the freeways around here and you'll see this goes on all the time. Does that make it legal? If a majority of people are willingly breaking the law does that mean it's a protest so the law should be changed? Maybe. Can you still get busted? Of course. YMMV.
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I remember at one point, someone was going to go through the demos and identify the real names of many of them. I don't recall that ever happened. Yes it did (7, 8, 9 years ago?) and I participated with 4 or 5 but other folks were faster than I was and Mac got most of them. When it was done we had over 100 identified demo songs or close to it. At that time I think they were all jazz. One that comes to mind is the Herbie midi style. It's based on the Canteloupe Island piano lick. That reminds me it's not just demo songs it's styles too. Since then there have been many demos/styles in other genre's. I'll bet there's lots of familiar songs hiding under different names there too. Time for another go? Bob
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Song titles. They cannot be copywritten, there are many songs with the same title. BUT it appears associating a song title with the chords crosses the line which is why PG doesn't give us the song titles to the chords of certain demo songs. I haven't specifically read that anywhere so PG is probably just being cautious.
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The are lots of examples out there besides PG Music of companies using alternative names to somewhat obscure the real,source material for chord progressions and playing style. I think the first place I saw this was on an arranger keyboard that my brother used to own. I remember sitting at the keyboard one afternoon trying to name the songs and getting a good laugh at the gyrations that they would go through to name the song without actually naming it.
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