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#335953 02/10/16 03:08 PM
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This is my first project with BIB 2016, thanks to PG for including me in the User Showcase Awards.
The first guitar in the song is, I believe, one of the new instruments for 2016. All instruments are BIB, I sang and played some percussion.
This was instructive and a lot of fun, now I'll get back to my own music.

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****** Song Summary *************
Title: hotel california
File:hotel california.SGU
Key=Bm , Tempo 130, Length (m:s)=6:01
No intro. 193 bar chorus, from bar 1 to bar 193. Repeat x1 chorus
No Melody
No Soloist track.
Song is saved with Volume, Pan, Reverb, Chorus, Bank0,
Song is saved with bar changes for Tempo ,Volume Changes,RealDrums Changes,
Style is -C_EAGLE.STY (Eagles style)

RealTracks in song: 1825:Bass, Electric, PopModernGrooveHeld Ev16 075
RealTracks in song: 1681:Guitar, 12-String Acoustic, Fingerpicking Ev 120
RealTracks in song: 2534:Guitar, 12-String Acoustic, HeldChords
RealTracks in song: 1903:Guitar, Acoustic, Rhythm Bolero Ev 090
RealTracks in song: 1259:Guitar, Electric, Rhythm PopShiningRockA-B Ev 120
RealTracks in song: ~1030:Guitar, 12-String Electric, Fingerpicking Ev 120
RealDrums in Song: SalsaBolero: a: SalsaBolerob: SalsaBolero


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the pauses in the guitar intro had to be edited in Pro Tools, I couldn't find a way to do it in BB. The reggae guitar in the Eagles version was done with a shaker, it was basically a percussive part anyway.


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Thank you Will, to give us this interesting overview of what we can do with the Eagles Style (I think I havn't it yet in my RTs).

You say you had fun to handle these Tracks, I understand that. Having fun is, over all, the most important thing. I suppose the aim wasn't to remake exactly the same song smile


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Very cool. Nice song to cover....and not the easiest.

There's a stumble/glitch right there about 5 seconds in. Trying to nail a cover exactly like the artist did it, using BB/RT can be a tough, uphill challenge.

Especially this one.... the Eagles had lots of pauses in this.... and other musical creativity that makes a direct note by note cover impossible using BB.

All things considered, not a bad cover of that tune. Did you speed it up there at the ending guitar solo? It felt faster. I was wondering how you would handle that epic guitar full frontal solo, and having the guitars swap and even the harmony parts were surprisingly well done.


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Originally Posted By: Guitarhacker
Very cool. Nice song to cover....and not the easiest.

There's a stumble/glitch right there about 5 seconds in. Trying to nail a cover exactly like the artist did it, using BB/RT can be a tough, uphill challenge.

Especially this one.... the Eagles had lots of pauses in this.... and other musical creativity that makes a direct note by note cover impossible using BB.

All things considered, not a bad cover of that tune. Did you speed it up there at the ending guitar solo? It felt faster. I was wondering how you would handle that epic guitar full frontal solo, and having the guitars swap and even the harmony parts were surprisingly well done.


Plus one from me too. Good job on this one.


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Originally Posted By: Guitarhacker
Very cool. Nice song to cover....and not the easiest.

There's a stumble/glitch right there about 5 seconds in. Trying to nail a cover exactly like the artist did it, using BB/RT can be a tough, uphill challenge.

Especially this one.... the Eagles had lots of pauses in this.... and other musical creativity that makes a direct note by note cover impossible using BB.

All things considered, not a bad cover of that tune. Did you speed it up there at the ending guitar solo? It felt faster. I was wondering how you would handle that epic guitar full frontal solo, and having the guitars swap and even the harmony parts were surprisingly well done.


I noticed the apparent tempo change as well, though both the beginning and end are timed at 130. The tempo pause after the second chorus goes to 100 for a moment, that's the first time I've tried that. The pauses in the guitar intro were difficult to recreate, but I thought they had to be there, at least two of them. I did it in ProTools by editing the held chord from 2534 onto the acoustic fingerpicking of 1681. That taught me a lot about editing in ProTools.
The little harmony part of the guitar solo at the end was done by transposing the song five steps and choosing a solo part that sounded reasonable against the first solo. Most of the solos are Pop Shining, with a little Texas included for Joe Walsh.

Last edited by Will Rockwell; 02/12/16 02:59 AM.

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Will, nice job on a very difficult song - enjoyed this.

Bob

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Originally Posted By: rsdean
Will, nice job on a very difficult song - enjoyed this.

Bob


Thanks Bob. Songs like this put the pressure on me to deliver better vocals and I think it's paying off


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