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I was working on a track for a remix competition and I got a backing track I liked but didn't work with the vocal stems. So I decided to put my own lyrics to them and see if it worked. I'm pretty happy with the results although I still have a long way to go with the recording and mixing process.

I only used a couple of RealTracks which I used as a base to work the other samples around. I was trying to come up with something a bit more modern-sounding and, while I liked the RealStyle, none of the synth tracks quite worked for what I was going for. Although, to be fair, I'm not too sure how well I succeeded with making it a modern sounding song! I used JJP Vocals, Waves AudioTrack and Noveltech Vocal Enhancer on the vocals alongside pitch correction with Waves Tune. I used Waves Doubler on the backing vocals and Studio One Pro EQ and Room Reverb across all tracks.

_INIBIZA.STY. In Ibiza Tropical House A-B
RD: TROPICALHOUSE^01-a:QuarterKick, Melodic, b:QuarterKick, Percussion :Ed (Great Oz) Clare
** N/A ** RT2696: Bass, Synth, TropicalHouseA-B Ev 120 , Ed (Great Oz) Clare

Lyrics:
I was looking
For something to explore
I was looking
For someone like you

If I don't try
How I can I be sure
Being together
Is the right thing to do

So I'll roll the dice
On our love and hope
You are the
Only one for me

This time I hope for
More

Come with me
Let's take a chance on our destiny
Don't look back
Because our love together is where it's at

The last time
I thought I'd found her
My heart was
Broken in two

Now I'm here
And I'll never hurt you
But can I trust
That you will be true

When I look inside
I'm willing to risk it
To move forward
Just you and I

This time I hope for
More

Come with me
Let's take a chance on our destiny
Don't look back
Because our love together is where it's at

The last time
I thought I'd found her
My heart was
Broken in two

But I'll roll the dice
On our love and hope
That I have found
Someone who's true

This time I hope for
More

Come with me
Let's take a chance on our destiny
Don't look back
Because our love together is where it's at

Come with me
Let's take a chance on our destiny
Don't look back
Because our love together is where it's at

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Richard the sounds are fine - not cutting edge contemporary but not old.
Your lyrics are fine too.
Vocally you've produced a nasal & flat performance: the sort that was in vogue during Bronksi Beat's hit zone but I think you may a little too nasal & flat. The guitar seems to be playing against the key of the song occasionally.
A little tweaking should bring these up to scratch.
Perhaps you could find someone on the forum to collab with and get a vocal that really suits.


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I always enjoy listening to your songs - you've got a very upbeat dance sensibility that comes through, and it's fun to listen.

It's nice to hear your vocals in a more "natural" form, instead of heavily processed and distorted.

And while it's bad form to complain about someone's vocals, in my defense for what follows, I'll say that rayc started it. wink

I could be wrong here, but I suspect that nasal sound comes from trying to sound like someone else, instead of sounding like yourself. If not... it wouldn't be the first time I've been wrong!

In any event, I enjoyed the song, which is really the only important bit. laugh


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Vocal control, you say. Never heard of it. Is that some kind of ProTools thing?
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Thanks for your feedback rayc and David. You always give really useful feedback whether positive or constructive. I do appreciate the feedback on the vocals as I haven't sang for years (except for on karaoke) and I know they need to improve.

I think I may have used a bit too much eq in the midrange and accentuated the nasal sounds. In the performance I was trying to lose the bass-y sound in my voice (that's the only way I can explain it) which I don't think would suit this song and that might have produced that sound. I'll play about with the EQ later and see if that was causing the sound or it was mainly the performance of it.

Collaborating with other people would be great but I'm not too sure how to go about that.

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liked the feel of this and the theme/style, using too much of this or that is experimental and to be sure its what recording/song writing is all about.

There is no set standard and no set way to sing if there was.. well it would be pretty boring and dare I say it all the same..!¬!

Rod Stewart was once told his voice sounded too strained to make a recording artist so !!.

All the best.

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Nicely done smile Really unique, and simultaneously catchy and also a bit of a head-scratcher. Whatever you did it worked tremendously well. Really innovative use of the RealTracks. Thanks for sharing!


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Thanks for the feedback and taking the time to listen.

I know I definitely need to work on my singing. But I do like the anecdote about Rod Stewart. I was always told that it's sometimes better to have a unique but average voice than a good one which isn't memorable. Although I still kinda wish I'd had these tools when I left college and had just had two years worth of singing lessons!

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This has a really great groove and catchy melody!! Nicely done! Very clever and imaginative!! Take care. Greg

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Hi Richard,

This is great!

You've got a flair for the inventive and I really admire that.

Everything about your arrangement and production worked for me.

It's enthusiastic thumbs up from me!

Regards,
Noel





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Originally Posted By: RichardB1985

I think I may have used a bit too much eq in the midrange and accentuated the nasal sounds. In the performance I was trying to lose the bass-y sound in my voice (that's the only way I can explain it) which I don't think would suit this song and that might have produced that sound. I'll play about with the EQ later and see if that was causing the sound or it was mainly the performance of it.

For future consideration step one would be to back away from the microphone - "proximity effect" is the enhancement of bass response due to closeness to the mic.
EQing vocals is difficult. Maybe consider the original "subtractive" approach 1st: that is to gently & slowly remove what offends rather than boost what doesn't. What mic are you using? That may have some significance as well.


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Richard,
Interesting tune. Almost like a modern revival of early 90s, which seems popular these days. Sure worth further working on it. I read comments by Ray(rayc) and by David (dcuny). I agree on what they said. Here are 3 cents from me.

I took a couple of master classes with local Jazz singer about a year ago. She showed me how to hold the head right, how to breathe and what not to do....But the most valuable point she gave, and that is echoing David's point, is to try finding your inner voice. Something you are comfortable with. It is an ongoing challenge for me, but that tip was priceless.

Seems you are know your plugins. Try to find a demo of "Breath Controller" to suppress inhales / exhales. Of course you can do that manually, but plugin does save time. I believe vocals would sound cleaner.

and a final cent. Pop filter. Couple of weeks back, I posted this topic:
https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=555125#Post555125

I am a big fan of that thing smile

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I do think I do need to look at a different mic. I'm using a Blue Snowball at the moment which I know isn't the best. I'm looking at investing in another one in the new year.

Thanks for that feedback Rustyspoon. I will keep working on it and I do need to work on my voice. I'm considering getting some lessons but I need to find a good singing teacher! I'll have a look at breath controller. I think I had the microphone a bit too close because I was using that same equipment (rayc linked me to your post, thanks for the recommendation!)

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Liked the groove - nice arrangement and production. Your song submissions are always a bit different than the norm and that is a good thing. Enjoyed the listen.

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