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Hello Folks, This started out with the simple Slow Reggae style. Origins of JLMK It may see the light of day as a reggae song as Misha did some guitar treatments and drums for that iteration of the song. Babu also had a look'n'listen at the reggae version and recommends that go forward as well. BUT, given the left n right turns some folk have made of late I decided to let the Real Tracks take me where they will. Into the basic reggae style I add a glitchy bass just to see how it sat. That was dangerous because I like its IYF loudness and rudeness. It also reminded me of The Flaming Lip, (Flaming Hands are a FABULOUS Oz band & I typed the wrong one initially)...I took that as the starting point. Various synths were added along with an acoustic guitar while lots of holes were punched in the basic reggae rhythm section. The bass has almost all the bottom end as the kick is almost all slap/thwack in this set. The vocals were an impression that became stronger as I progressed through it. Lyrics are pretty light weight. Unusually for me this is 96% BIAB. I'll add details later. JLMK v2 Here's a mix that does quite a few of the things FJ & Cpt Moto referred to...but not all... Calmer Just, just let me know If you want me In life it was and will not be A game to play Will you play fair or take your fee Just, just let me know ow Talking the talk Wander and walk We just orbit each other & then we duck for cover If you can't leave your phone If you can't get in the zone Take it from me It's not meant to be That's for free Just, just let me know if you want me In life it was and will not be A game to play Will you speak it and set me free Just, just let me know ow Speaking the words It seems absurd We confuse each other Can we both recover If you won't come out to play You won't find a way Take it from me It's not meant to be That's for free Just, just let me know if you want me In life it was and will not be A game to play To ensure their own victory Just, just let me know ow Just, just let me know if you want me It's like it was and will not be its a game to play Within your hands what will it be? Just, just let me know ow Synths - 2974 & 2948 Drums Reggae Classic & programmed kit by Misha for reggae Pedal steel 3206 Ac Gtr 1600 lead gtr Pipeline User Track Rhythm Misha/Ken User track Clavinet (heavily treated) Strings (blended with steel). Glitch Bass 2948 Reggae Bass 1153
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You KNOW I really like this, Ray. Although I like reggae, it's not my style on bass. I always liked the vocals on the version you sent me, and I'm glad you brought them up in the mix. I KNEW you'd do the bass track far better than I could. I love the sparseness with the occasional flares of cool --just like those bass cats from the island. Misha's guitars are so good. This is an interesting and unusual song in the reggae realm.
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Ray,
COOL. Listened several times.
Bravo to you for stretching and experimenting! Interesting! to say the least!!!
A few thoughts - (opinions. "I think"'s...)
The vocals should come up just a bit.
The pads and other "different" tracks should be a bit more subtle - more in-the-background.
The bass is VERY cool - but I thought (see) that it should be a-bit-more-defined in its mid-range.
This screams for some contemporary percussion (though you might be strongly opposed to that) - some off-beat kicks, some fingersnaps, some soft claps, etc.
Misha's guitars sound great!
I like it. A lot!
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Hello Ray
I would say the experiment has succeeded
There are many really good sounds
Many greetings
Andi ;-)
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Ray,
COOL. Listened several times.
Bravo to you for stretching and experimenting! Interesting! to say the least!!!
A few thoughts - (opinions. "I think"'s...)
The vocals should come up just a bit.
The pads and other "different" tracks should be a bit more subtle - more in-the-background.
The bass is VERY cool - but I thought (see) that it should be a-bit-more-defined in its mid-range.
This screams for some contemporary percussion (though you might be strongly opposed to that) - some off-beat kicks, some fingersnaps, some soft claps, etc.
Misha's guitars sound great!
I like it. A lot!
fj
Everything fj said! Moto
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You KNOW I really like this, Ray. Although I like reggae, it's not my style on bass. I always liked the vocals on the version you sent me, and I'm glad you brought them up in the mix. I KNEW you'd do the bass track far better than I could. I love the sparseness with the occasional flares of cool --just like those bass cats from the island. Misha's guitars are so good. This is an interesting and unusual song in the reggae realm. Thanks Marty, Stay safe.
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Ray,
COOL. Listened several times.
Bravo to you for stretching and experimenting! Interesting! to say the least!!!
A few thoughts - (opinions. "I think"'s...)
The vocals should come up just a bit.
The pads and other "different" tracks should be a bit more subtle - more in-the-background.
The bass is VERY cool - but I thought (see) that it should be a-bit-more-defined in its mid-range.
This screams for some contemporary percussion (though you might be strongly opposed to that) - some off-beat kicks, some fingersnaps, some soft claps, etc.
Misha's guitars sound great!
I like it. A lot!
fj
Thanks FJ, I'll try those things & suss out if they fit in my head as well as the song. The bass...it's odd...it holds the bottom end because the drums don't have a real thump in the kick. I'll tweak.
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Ray,
COOL. Listened several times.
Bravo to you for stretching and experimenting! Interesting! to say the least!!!
A few thoughts - (opinions. "I think"'s...)
The vocals should come up just a bit.
The pads and other "different" tracks should be a bit more subtle - more in-the-background.
The bass is VERY cool - but I thought (see) that it should be a-bit-more-defined in its mid-range.
This screams for some contemporary percussion (though you might be strongly opposed to that) - some off-beat kicks, some fingersnaps, some soft claps, etc.
Misha's guitars sound great!
I like it. A lot!
fj
Everything fj said! Moto Thanks Cpt., Every thing in the reply to FJ is for you too.
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rayc
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Hi Ray, Misha and Babu,
I listened to JLMK-2 and I agree you were experimenting the whole song through!
Although, I couldn't discover the reggae tune you mentioned, or maybe far in the distance...
I agree with Floyd the vocals need to come up a bit more, but so needs that acoustic guitar.
But I also must admit the song is not my kind of music. It's too psychedelic and abtract for me.
I like a "normal"melody. This is too complicated to listen to. One song I just did and now I need a glass of rum...
Stay safe over there,
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What a super job on this Ray! My favorite part is what you did with vocals...they are excellent! All the effects saturated stuff going on panned to the sides really add a cool element to this! It's a really interesting and enjoyable piece! Thanks, Torrey
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Very different tune in a good way. Well done
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Hi Ray, Misha and Babu,
I listened to JLMK-2 and I agree you were experimenting the whole song through!
Although, I couldn't discover the reggae tune you mentioned, or maybe far in the distance...
I agree with Floyd the vocals need to come up a bit more, but so needs that acoustic guitar.
But I also must admit the song is not my kind of music. It's too psychedelic and abtract for me.
I like a "normal"melody. This is too complicated to listen to. One song I just did and now I need a glass of rum...
Stay safe over there,
Hans
Hans, Thank you. The reggae version is the very 1st link. The drums, bass n solo guitar in the one you listened to are from the reggae te,plate or user tracks. No problems that is too psych/abstract... this was the inspiration/source... Flaming Lips Fight Test which is pretty "normal" for the band while this is a little further out there in terms of bits n pieces flying through a song... Sympathy 3000/21 Thanks for persevering through the song. Rum? Yum, it was my fav tipple when I drank.
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What a super job on this Ray! My favorite part is what you did with vocals...they are excellent! All the effects saturated stuff going on panned to the sides really add a cool element to this! It's a really interesting and enjoyable piece! Thanks, Torrey Thanks Torrey, The vocals were difficult and required some correction but it's sort of okay.
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Very different tune in a good way. Well done Thanks mate.
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I went with "Calmer" version and it sounded good. Very experimental sound. Good mix. Lyrics came out good. Good you have forum friends to give a hand. It paid off. Neat song.
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Hello Ray
I would say the experiment has succeeded
There are many really good sounds
Many greetings
Andi ;-) Thanks Andi.
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I went with "Calmer" version and it sounded good. Very experimental sound. Good mix. Lyrics came out good. Good you have forum friends to give a hand. It paid off. Neat song. Thanks jptx3, yes, collaborators and helpful folk abound in this forum.
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We're down with #1 and 3. #1 had the classic reggae sound we are familiar with (having listened to reggae off and on over the years) and experimented with a few productions. You nailed that bass vibe. #3 comments: Reading your post and responses before listening I wondered if #3 would be more reggaeton in nature, i.e. more of a dance style reggae. Happily I was wrong  as It sounds like a mashup of music experiments that worked out extremely well. Whatever you did with the vocal track sounds most cool as does the entire production. We enjoyed all three and especially where it landed. J&B
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Very interesting Ray. These are some cool sounds, and I like the vocals. The blend of the sounds is so soft that it is easy to listen to, as simple as that might sound. I would keep experimenting with this level of smoothness and simplicity. I think you're on to something.
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Ray, I think all three sounded fine to me.
Experimenting and improvisation is been challenging and fun.
Me, it's not about how many times you fail, it's about how many times you get back up.
Cop, that's not how field sobriety tests work.
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