|
Log in to post
|
Print Thread |
|
|
|
|
|
Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
|
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 27
Enthusiast
|
OP
Enthusiast
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 27 |
I am a complete novice using BIAB trying to find a way to connect a keyboard to an Alesis QSR rack mounted synth and also have a midi cable input from my laptop pc with BIAB on it. What I have done is get a y splitter that splits my 2 input midi cables to 1 as it goes into my synth. What I was hoping to be able to do was to tell BIAB to NOT use a channel, for example channel 1, so that the input midi signals from my keyboard would not get mixed up with the midi signals coming from my pc laptop as created by BIAB. What happens now is after a short period of time I will get one note that "sticks" on continuously after a few minutes of playing. My first effort at excluding this one midi channel from BIAB's use was to go to this midi options window and make sure that the channel "1" was not being used by BIAB: [img] https://photos.app.goo.gl/PFSx0rVScBRiu7MH3[/img] That is not working. To describe the problem in another way....I want to be able to play use my keyboard to play any of the hundreds of sounds available on my synth without disturbing or interrupting the midi signals coming from BIAB. I would not be surprised if this is not possible without additional hardware in between. Using the "Y" 2 in 1 out to my synth is not a very subtle attempt I know. I was originally loooking for a midi "a/b" switch that would at least allow me to switch between getting the input signal from my keyboard versus my BIAB laptop. I could not find such a thing. I am thinking there must be such a piece of midi hardware that would be like a mixer where I could have the 2 midi streams input with just one output. I would be happy to add such a piece of hardware if someone could point me to such a thing. Thanks very much, Jim Lee
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
|
Joined: Jun 2000
Posts: 2,475
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Jun 2000
Posts: 2,475 |
I have a lot of MIDI gear and I'm not sure a "Y" cable is good way to go but that aside. I also have a QSR (and more)... so in luie of using a Y cable you COULD connect your MIDI keyboard to PC and:
1) When NOT using BIAB have your PC MIDI routed to your QSR using something like FREE MIDI OX (if your MIDI interface HW your using on your PC doesn't have a standalone software routing feature)
http://www.midiox.com/?http://www.midiox.com/moxdown.htm
Yes it works in Win 10 (and 7 and XP I USE it in ALL THREE!), or
2) When USING BIAB just make sure you have "Route MIDI Thur to MIDI Driver" in the Options -> MIDI/Audio Drivers setup and set the MIDI driver output to your MIDI HW out. Or once again you could do all this in MIDI OX: you could MERGE your MIDI keyboard input with the BIAB output using MIDI OX and have MIDI OX send all that data to the QSR.
You can then even FILTER channels and CC's so only certain things make it to the QSR.
Good Luck
Larry
Last edited by Larry Kehl; 01/26/18 09:18 AM.
Win10Pro,i9,64GB,2TBSSD+20TBHDDs,1080TI,BIAB'24,Scarlett18i8,Montage7,Fusion 8HD,QS8,Integra7,XV5080,QSR,SC-8850,SPLAT,FL21&others,Komp.14,IK suite&others, just a guitar player-AXE FX III &FM9T, FishmanTP, MIDIGuitar2, GK2/3'sw/GI20
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
|
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 10,122
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 10,122 |
Jim Fogle - 2024 BiaB (1111) RB (5) Ultra+ PAK DAWs: Cakewalk by BandLab (CbB) - Standalone: Zoom MRS-8 Laptop: i3 Win 10, 8GB ram 500GB HDD Desktop: i7 Win 11, 12GB ram 256GB SSD, 4 TB HDD Music at: https://fogle622.wix.com/fogle622-audio-home
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
|
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 7,299
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 7,299 |
Make sure I have it right. You are running the MIDI out from BIAB INTO your synthesizer? Why? Your interface has MIDI in and OUT on it. With your BIAB's MIDI data being sent through your synth you are getting collisions between note on and note off message and that is what is causing the hanging notes. If you want to have BIAB play other sounds from your Alesis, patch from your interface MIDI OUT to your Alesis MIDI IN and make sure the channels match up.
My thought on hanging notes is that perhaps your BIAB has generated a note on message for note 65 (to use a number) and you then manually play a note 65 (which is F above middle C) and release that key. You had the original MIDI note on message, then you manually played that key again, which sent another NOTE ON message, and let go of the key, which sent a NOTE OFF message, but that original NOTE ON is still on and the note is still playing and will keep playing until it gets another note off.
You can actually cause that manually to test what I mean. Press a key on your keyboard and while depressing that key change MIDI channel on the Alesis. When you let go of the key the original note SHOULD still be playing because the original depression of that key on MIDI channel X never got the corresponding off message because you changed channels and can no longer send the note off.
Start by remembering that MIDI is not sound. It is on and off messages. And synthesizers are not really "musical instruments" per se, like a piano or a guitar that create sounds with strings that vibrate. Synthesizers are essentially computers that are configured to synthesize and play sounds. Right there in the name. They synthesize sounds. With a data stream.
I am using the new 1040XTRAEZ form this year. It has just 2 lines.
1. How much did you make in 2023?
2. Send it to us.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.
ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Update Your PowerTracks Pro Audio 2024 Today!
The Newest RealBand 2024 Update is Here!
The newest RealBand 2024 Build 5 update is now available!
Download and install this to your RealBand 2024 for updated print options, streamlined loading and saving of .SGU & MGU (BB) files, and to add a number of program adjustments that address user-reported bugs and concerns.
This free update is available to all RealBand 2024 users. To learn more about this update and download it, head to www.pgmusic.com/support.realband.htm#20245
The Band-in-a-Box® Flash Drive Backup Option
Today (April 5) is National Flash Drive Day!
Did you know... not only can you download your Band-in-a-Box® Pro, MegaPAK, or PlusPAK purchase - you can also choose to add a flash drive backup copy with the installation files for only $15? It even comes with a Band-in-a-Box® keychain!
For the larger Band-in-a-Box® packages (UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition), the hard drive backup copy is available for only $25. This will include a preinstalled and ready to use program, along with your installation files.
Backup copies are offered during the checkout process on our website.
Already purchased your e-delivery version, and now you wish you had a backup copy? It's not too late! If your purchase was for the current version of Band-in-a-Box®, you can still reach out to our team directly to place your backup copy order!
Note: the Band-in-a-Box® keychain is only included with flash drive backup copies, and cannot be purchased separately.
Handy flash drive tip: Always try plugging in a USB device the wrong way first? If your flash drive (or other USB plug) doesn't have a symbol to indicate which way is up, look for the side with a seam on the metal connector (it only has a line across one side) - that's the side that either faces down or to the left, depending on your port placement.
Update your Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows® Today!
Update your Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows for free with build 1111!
With this update, there's more control when saving images from the Print Preview window, we've added defaults to the MultiPicker for sorting and font size, updated printing options, updated RealTracks and other content, and addressed user-reported issues with the StylePicker, MIDI Soloists, key signature changes, and more!
Learn more about this free update for Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows at www.pgmusic.com/support_windowsupdates.htm#1111
Band-in-a-Box® 2024 Review: 4.75 out of 5 Stars!
If you're looking for a in-depth review of the newest Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows version, you'll definitely find it with Sound-Guy's latest review, Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows Review: Incredible new capabilities to experiment, compose, arrange and mix songs.
A few excerpts:
"The Tracks view is possibly the single most powerful addition in 2024 and opens up a new way to edit and generate accompaniments. Combined with the new MultiPicker Library Window, it makes BIAB nearly perfect as an 'intelligent' composer/arranger program."
"MIDI SuperTracks partial generation showing six variations – each time the section is generated it can be instantly auditioned, re-generated or backed out to a previous generation – and you can do this with any track type. This is MAJOR! This takes musical experimentation and honing an arrangement to a new level, and faster than ever."
"Band in a Box continues to be an expansive musical tool-set for both novice and experienced musicians to experiment, compose, arrange and mix songs, as well as an extensive educational resource. It is huge, with hundreds of functions, more than any one person is likely to ever use. Yet, so is any DAW that I have used. BIAB can do some things that no DAW does, and this year BIAB has more DAW-like functions than ever."
Convenient Ways to Listen to Band-in-a-Box® Songs Created by Program Users!
The User Showcase Forum is an excellent place to share your Band-in-a-Box® songs and listen to songs other program users are creating!
There are other places you can listen to these songs too! Visit our User Showcase page to sort by genre, artist (forum name), song title, and date - each listing will direct you to the forum post for that song.
If you'd rather listen to these songs in one place, head to our Band-in-a-Box® Radio, where you'll have the option to select the genre playlist for your listening pleasure. This page has SoundCloud built in, so it won't redirect you. We've also added the link to the Artists SoundCloud page here, and a link to their forum post.
We hope you find some inspiration from this amazing collection of User Showcase Songs!
Congratulations to the 2023 User Showcase Award Winners!
We've just announced the 2023 User Showcase Award Winners!
There are 45 winners, each receiving a Band-in-a-Box 2024 UltraPAK! Read the official announcement to see if you've won.
Our User Showcase Forum receives more than 50 posts per day, with people sharing their Band-in-a-Box songs and providing feedback for other songs posted.
Thank you to everyone who has contributed!
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Forums66
Topics81,579
Posts734,675
Members38,499
| |
Most Online2,537
Jan 19th, 2020
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Dansk
Deutsch - Windows
Español
Français - Windows
Italiano - Windows
Nederlands
Polski
Português
Svenskt
русский
Japanese
Simplified Chinese
Traditional Chinese
Korean