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Hi:
I am trying to make double flat notation, but couldn´t find the way.
The reason basically is I am making some backing to practice 7th chords, and would like to have as it should be shown on the sheet.
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I know that there are theoretical reasons as to why you would use a double flat in notation but for the purpose of BIAB playing the chord you want couldn't you just transpose it to the next natural?


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Thanks Samuel for your reply.
The reason is theorical, just to be consistent with the dim chord meaning (bb in 7th)...

On the other hand my main purpose is to build a series of the five chords (Major, dominant, minor, half diminished seventh and dim7), to practice and to be able to follow the notes.

Do you have any idea how to build that in BIAB?
By now just start with F, and found the bb issue... (that as you said, could be replace by next natural). The thing is what do you recommend to practice those chords with BIAB. I am new with the software...
Thanks for any help.
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Claudio,

It's very rare to see a dim7 chord notated with double flats (even in music from the classical masters such as Mozart, Beethoven, etc.).

BIAB's notation is based on creating lead sheets. It is not a fully comprehensive notation program. I don't know of any way to get double flats or double sharps. To do that, you'd need to use a more specialised music notation program. Musescore is freeware and does a great job if you are looking for something.

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Originally Posted By: Noel96
Claudio,

It's very rare to see a dim7 chord notated with double flats (even in music from the classical masters such as Mozart, Beethoven, etc.).

BIAB's notation is based on creating lead sheets. It is not a fully comprehensive notation program. I don't know of any way to get double flats or double sharps. To do that, you'd need to use a more specialised music notation program. Musescore is freeware and does a great job if you are looking for something.

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Noel



Noel, that is very interesting as I have always seen Dim7 written with a double flat, i.e. 1-3b-5b-7bb.

I do agree that Claudio will need a notation program to achieve his goal.


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Correct music notation generally involves the rule of not conflicting with the key signature of the music.

In the following examples, the music is composed in C#min which of course has 4 sharps C#, D# F# and G#

The composer deliberately avoids scoring a C natural as this would contradict with the C# determined by the key signature, so the composer writes B# instead. The same with a G natural, the composer instead writes is as a double-sharp F, viz: ' xF '.

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Claudio,

It's very rare to see a dim7 chord notated with double flats (even in music from the classical masters such as Mozart, Beethoven, etc.).

BIAB's notation is based on creating lead sheets. It is not a fully comprehensive notation program. I don't know of any way to get double flats or double sharps. To do that, you'd need to use a more specialised music notation program. Musescore is freeware and does a great job if you are looking for something.

Regards,
Noel



Noel, that is very interesting as I have always seen Dim7 written with a double flat, i.e. 1-3b-5b-7bb.

I do agree that Claudio will need a notation program to achieve his goal.


Sorry Mario, I didn't explain myself very well.

In theory books, I've always seen it written with double flats as needed.

What I was meaning was that in the actual music of the classical composers, attention to theoretical detail is often sacrificed if it makes reading easier. Of course these are works that are edited and not the originals so I can't say for certain that a composer didn't write using doubleflats, etc.

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Thanks Noel.
Do you know the best way I can create backtracks in BIAB, to practice chords? I am trying to make Mayor, Dominant, Minor, half dim, and dim chord backs for all the scales, and notation to follow... that is the idea.
Tks for any help.
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