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I have ordered the 2496, but was just on the M-Audio forum and it is full of very angry posters. Almost a year of posts wondering when M-Audio is going to release a updated driver that fixes the bugs.

Anyone here having problems with this configuration? Any recommendations of a card that works well with Win7 64bit that I can get for around $100?

thanks
Martin
Are they older threads you are reading? M-Audio is *usually* good about driver support.
Win7/64 driver-
http://www.m-audio.com/index.php?do=support.drivers&f=1061

As an alternative, the FastTracks seem to be doing quite well from what I've heard.
We have chatted about this in the past, let me try to find the past thread to refer you.... Hold on.
Here ya go Dan-
http://www.pgmusic.com/ubbthreads/showfl...true#Post285364
Here it is. I believe this address you exact questions.

http://www.pgmusic.com/ubbthreads/showfl...true#Post285249
Thread started in Feb, last angry post 3 days ago. They have not released an updated driver to fix the bugs since last November.

http://forums.m-audio.com/showthread.php...ted-5-26/page15

I went thru about 6 months of these posts. It appears if one has the "right" chipset and bios configuration, it might work without problems. I already have a bad taste in my mouth with the last 2496 I had that would not work with WinMediaEd(an XP Frankenstein). I don't want to start up that old headach again. My 2496 is suppose to arrive Monday. I will probably send it back unopened to Sweetwater.
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Here ya go Dan-
http://www.pgmusic.com/ubbthreads/showfl...true#Post285364




Rharv, you and I are up way too early in the morning.....
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Thread started in Feb, last angry post 3 days ago. They have not released an updated driver to fix the bugs since last November.

http://forums.m-audio.com/showthread.php...ted-5-26/page15





Sure does sound bad over there. That would certainly scare me away. Fortunately, I purchased without reading this thread and all has worked out for me. I think I covered what I believe is the root problem in the prior thread and it just doesn't effect me. Good Luck.
One can find a thread like that for every sound device in existence, though.

The fellow there, "murky" - says he couldn't get his S/PDIF to work on the Delta card, then he says he got rid of it and got an E-MU card.

"murky" flames, gets the first answer to that post - and then asks, "What is a DAW?" *grin*

There are folks on the E-MU forum flaming E-MU for the exact same reason, though - claims that they cannot get the S/PDIF to work.

In the case of both brands, there are plenty of others who have indeed gotten the S/PDIF to work for them.

This "problem" could easily be a lack of understanding on the part of the user.

For example, they may not realize that the S/PDIF input MUST be set to clock from whatever device is plugged into it.

Or they may have some other problem that could be correctable.

If you return the device unopened, you will never know if you could have used it with your setup or not.

And - Is the S/PDIF important to the way in which you intend to use the device anyway?


--Mac
I have to admit I have been looking around at alot of other PCI cards since seeing that maudio forum, and see the same issues over and over again with Win7 64b. It appears the card makers haven't caught up with the world of 64bit. I want to install a card and its drivers and have it work. If the bios needs tweaking, I want the driver software to do it.

The last card I had using WinXP, a TurtleBeach, worked fine without problems or need to tweak. Why can't, after over a year of release of the Win7 64b OS, are there still so many problems, with so many card makers?

I wonder how hard it would be to downgrade to Win7 32bit. I guess I would need a whole new processor to do that.
I don't think it is the card makers "catching up" in the case of the 64 bit Operating Systems.

More like a bad Operating System design model, if you ask me.

Think of this: There are all these different companies, all these different development teams, yet not very many if at all have been able to achieve 100% functionality success with the 64 bit OS's from microsoft.

Find the Common Denominator here.


--Mac
I would give the card a try i have used a 24/96 for 8 years, and love it.

There might be an issue, but you won't know until you try. As far as rharv's suggestion of a fasttrack, the might work, but after all it's drivers are made from the same source. The 24/96 is a great card, don't over think it, for every bad post there are 10 others that have no prblem at all, they just have no need to post on a forum.

After helping out on software forums for the last 10 years i have found that 90% of problems are pilot error, mine included.
Well after talking to the vender and getting assurances that they would allow a return if I chose, I opened it up and installed it. The Control Panel wouldn't install, but it does play. I haven't tried recording yet. What is telling is the manual that gives instructions for installing with a Win95 system. You would think after 12 or more years since the first printing, they could revise their "new" manuals.
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Well after talking to the vender and getting assurances that they would allow a return if I chose, I opened it up and installed it. The Control Panel wouldn't install, but it does play. I haven't tried recording yet. What is telling is the manual that gives instructions for installing with a Win95 system. You would think after 12 or more years since the first printing, they could revise their "new" manuals.




Don't rely on the "coaster" disk that comes in the box for your drivers. They are typically always hopelessly outdated. Consider that the mfr likely tooled up to make some untold large number for sale - and they may have been sitting on warehouse shelves for a long time as computer developments go.

Visit the M-Audio webpage, locate the driver support page on the site, fill in the particulars for your Operating System and such as asked, then download the latest drivers for you and install those. It is typically one easy .exe file.


--Mac
Hi,
as Mac suggested, visit the site & download the latest driver.
I'm using an old M Audio usb Audiophile card with my Win7 laptop. ( One of the few things I have managed to get working on my new laptop.)
I went to the site & downloaded the latest driver, so far it appears to work ok.
I'm just waiting for my BIAB usb harddrive upgrade to arrive, so that I can use the real tracks.
I suppose that'll be one way of finding out if I've got problems with my audiophile.
Oh, the first thing I did was download the latest driver that I could find on their site. It was version 6.0.2_5.10.0.5074, dated 11-14-09. If anyone knows of a more recent one, please let me know.

With all the issues I have read about, over the past year, I would think they would have a more updated one. Still no control panel, but I can get done what I need, without that.

thanks
martin

HP desktop,
Win7, 64bit
AthlonDualCore, 2.8mhz
5gb ram
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Oh, the first thing I did was download the latest driver that I could find on their site. It was version 6.0.2_5.10.0.5074, dated 11-14-09. If anyone knows of a more recent one, please let me know.

With all the issues I have read about, over the past year, I would think they would have a more updated one. Still no control panel, but I can get done what I need, without that.






Thats the correct \ current driver. If you look down on your lower Win7 tool bar (bottom right hand corner of your screen where the current tasks are indicated) you should see a Red Circle with a White Arrow head in it. That is the M-Audio Control Panel. Should have appeared when you loaded the driver.
Look at your Taskbar, next to the clock and see if there is a round red circular icon that has the white "arrow" stripes pointing to the right.

That is the icon for the Delta Control Panel.

Doubleclick on it to access.

it should be there if the install of the .exe was done correctly and its really hard not to do it correctly, although with some of the newer Operating Systems there may be an issue with being logged on as Administrator and possibly also turning off UAC in order to do the full install.

Doon't expect host recording programs to be able to bring up the Delta Control Panel from inside the program - even if they have that feature, I have found that some will and some won't. No big deal because that Delta icon is always available in the taskbar anyway, regardless of which program is open, just use that instead of the way the particular music program wants to open it. A lot of those are designed around the windows sound built-in soundcards and not for custom sound devices like the M-Audio. Of course, if you find that you do have a program that can open the Delta Control Panel, then you can use that when using that program or just always use the icon in the taskbar.


--Mac
I had tried to access it thru RB and it wasn't coming up. It was hidden in my task bar. I now bring it up and it shows the driver info, which is the old one. When I go into remove programs to start over, it shows the most recent one. The main control panel-manage audio, also shows the old driver. I also am starting to get a message after clicking "enable input monitoring" that my ASIO driver uses MAC-based info and is not installed properly.

I removed all m-audio software and started over. Same thing. I guess I need to pull and reinstall the card, also.

I probably should take this to the m-audio forum.

thanks
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I had tried to access it thru RB and it wasn't coming up. It was hidden in my task bar. I now bring it up and it shows the driver info, which is the old one. When I go into remove programs to start over, it shows the most recent one. The main control panel-manage audio, also shows the old driver. I also am starting to get a message after clicking "enable input monitoring" that my ASIO driver uses MAC-based info and is not installed properly.

I removed all m-audio software and started over. Same thing. I guess I need to pull and reinstall the card, also.

I probably should take this to the m-audio forum.

thanks





None of that stuff on the install disk was meant for Win7 (my opinoin) . I used the downloaded drivers only and these installed everything I needed.
I think JazzManDan is suggesting uninstalling the whole lot, then re-installing only the new drivers..
If you see any sign of the old drivers, they may need to be removed completely before starting the install of the new.

Uninstall all drivers..
Remove card physically.
Reboot once without it (and check to make sure everything is removed)
Reboot again before installing.
Then follow instructions for new install.
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Uninstall all drivers..
Remove card physically.
Reboot once without it (and check to make sure everything is removed)
Reboot again before installing.
Then follow instructions for new install.




What rharv recommends is in order here, you should do this and do not skip any step there.

The "virgin reinstall" we call it (grin).

And - if Windows attempts the plug 'n pray "New Hardware Found" routine, do not let windows install drivers, say no to that, as Windows often attempts to install some "generic" driver from its own pool and those are not what you want when doing this kind of music work. Say NO to that and then after the puter is fully booted, do the full install from the downloaded .exe file.


--Mac
Well since I have a "30 day trial" from Sweetwater, I have a good time frame to see if I will avoid the problems many have had. It seems to depend on what chipset one has. After 2 days of testing I have finally got the control panel to open up. I have noticed that BIAB won't play midi with this card. I have just set it to the GS wavetable since I don't really use midi in my final takes.

Also I went all yesterday without RB crashing. The solution to that was to keep the M-Audio control panel closed. As long as the "crackling" that many report doesn't show up in the next 4 weeks, I guess will keep it. The only card I ran across with good Win7/64 drivers seems to be the ESI Juli@ card. Anyone have experience with that one?
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