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Posted By: TuneMonger 3/3 time signature - 05/19/12 03:37 PM
A friend sent me the chords to a song of his, I am very familiar with the song. I couldn't get any style to work, I asked him what's different and he said that it was in 3/3. It's just a pop song, but there are no styles in 3/3, do I have any other options?
Posted By: Rachael Re: 3/3 time signature - 05/19/12 04:40 PM
I've never heard of 3/3. If it is 3 dotted quarter notes per measure, try 9/8
Posted By: kelso Re: 3/3 time signature - 05/19/12 05:43 PM
if you Google "3/3 time signature" you will get a little discussion of this, but if its "just a pop song", its either wrong or a joke or not. Let us know.
Posted By: silvertones Re: 3/3 time signature - 05/19/12 06:31 PM
There's no such thing as a third note so thus there is no such thing as 3/3 time.
Posted By: WienSam Re: 3/3 time signature - 05/19/12 06:34 PM
Had me going there for a minute
Posted By: TuneMonger Re: 3/3 time signature - 05/19/12 07:50 PM
He said he can rewrite it no problem, but as Kelso mentioned, you can google 3/3 and find quite a few people who will contend that it exists. I'll ask the writer more about it when we meet, right now we are doing a lot of stuff via Internet before I record his parts.
Posted By: DrDan Re: 3/3 time signature - 05/19/12 08:36 PM
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He said he can rewrite it no problem, but as Kelso mentioned, you can google 3/3 and find quite a few people who will contend that it exists.




Interesting, I google 3/3 time signature, and this thread is in the top 5 hits. Let's hear what your buddy is calling 3/3
Posted By: Matt Finley Re: 3/3 time signature - 05/19/12 10:10 PM
Three beats to the measure (good so far), and a third note gets one beat. Really?

Yes, please do post an example of this.
Posted By: rharv Re: 3/3 time signature - 05/20/12 01:57 AM
3/3
Same as 4/4 and 2/2.
Do the math.
It just looks different.
Sounds like they finally fixed the waltz!
Posted By: WienSam Re: 3/3 time signature - 05/20/12 02:24 AM
I'm in Vienna, the home of the waltz. Let me tell you, Bob - they ain't fixed it yet!
Posted By: TuneMonger Re: 3/3 time signature - 05/20/12 03:19 AM
Yeah, apparently the people who say 3/3 exists are citing unusual examples that wouldn't have anything to do with the song in question. When he gets here in late June, I'll post something if anyone is still interested by then. (slinking away...)
Posted By: yjoh Re: 3/3 time signature - 05/20/12 07:53 AM
New one on me. Either a typo or joke.

We all know 2/4 means 2 quarter note beats to the bar. (or 2 crotchet beats to the bar as I usually call it.)

We all also know the bottom number refers to the type of beat that is getting 1 count. So, 4 = quarter notes, 8 = eighth notes, 16 = sixteenths and so on.

I'm interested in how these people describe their mysterious 3/3 time. 3 what to a bar?

Just curious. I always enjoy a good laugh!
Posted By: Mac Re: 3/3 time signature - 05/20/12 10:30 AM
Probably due to the large amount of people who mistakenly think that a Time Signature is a Fraction...

Well, that may just be evolving, too.


--Mac
Posted By: GHinCH Re: 3/3 time signature - 05/20/12 11:51 AM
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Probably due to the large amount of people who mistakenly think that a Time Signature is a Fraction...





Maybe they mean a dotted half note in the upper part accompanied by three crotchets in the lower part. If this will be followed, they play Take Five in 5/5 time and the Unsquare Dance in 7/7 time...

Guido
Posted By: yjoh Re: 3/3 time signature - 05/20/12 12:13 PM
Maybe they thinking in dotted minims. 3 dotted minim beats to a bar. Even so this would be 9/4 time. I'd like to see this music.

My husband said maybe it's triplet music written for three people! LOL
Posted By: kelso Re: 3/3 time signature - 05/20/12 12:25 PM
Someone just has to explain what a 1/3 note is.

Traditional note lengths (like many things) follow the series 2^n, or two to the nth power, n being a positive integer - like 2^1=2, 2^2=4, 2^3=8, etc., so you get 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64, ... Sound familiar?

No 3 in the list.

I can't wait for BeelzeBob to get the straight scoop from his friend and lets us know how this works. This could change my life.
Posted By: yjoh Re: 3/3 time signature - 05/20/12 12:32 PM
Yes. I for one am totally intrigued. A look at the first few bars would clear it all up.
This is like the X Files. The truth is out there!
Posted By: silvertones Re: 3/3 time signature - 05/20/12 01:15 PM
It's really all of bunch of bull & nonsense.And besides even if you want to entertain the idea of a 1/3 note it would be infinite.A half note is EXACTLY 1/2 of a whole note. a 1/4 note is EXACTLY 1/2 of a half note etc. A 1/3 of a whole note is an INFINITE number.
Posted By: DrDan Re: 3/3 time signature - 05/20/12 01:24 PM
Sounds link something from Spinal Tap. "...amp goes to 11", and "... we use 1/3 notes when everyone else uses 1/4 notes". Oh, and don't forget that "Em is the saddest key of all"
Posted By: yjoh Re: 3/3 time signature - 05/20/12 02:04 PM
Last post before I crash for the night.

I totally agree, bull & nonsense. It'll be decimal time next. (referring to clocks that is, not music)

Still like to see this music though.

Night all, I'm out of here.
Posted By: TuneMonger Re: 3/3 time signature - 05/20/12 06:12 PM
Again, I'm sure the theoretical existence of 3/3 has nothing to do with this song. The writer simply called it 3/3 when he meant 3/4. I'd never heard of 3/3 either, but I have no music training beyond junior high school, so I inquired. The chords are below. This guy can hear a train whistle and tell you that it's Ab (maybe not such a big deal, though it certainly impresses me), but he obviously has major gaps in his grasp of music terminology. The breaks in the lines are mine to make it easier to enter into BIAB, he had some different breaks. SORRY to create such a stir, never intended it to turn into this!



G F#6 F#7 G
F#6 F#7 G F#6
F#7 BM AM D7
G DMAJ7 BM EM
F#M D7DIM G F#6
F#7 BM AM D7
G DMAJ7 F#M EM
A GM C7 FMAJ7
D G DMAJ7 BM
EM F#m D7DIM G
F#6 F#7 BM AM
D7 G DMAJ7 BM
EM A G F#6
F#7 BM AM D7
G DMAJ7 BM EM
A#MAJ7 A7 A#MAJ7 A7
A#MAJ7
Posted By: kelso Re: 3/3 time signature - 05/20/12 10:03 PM
"The writer simply called it 3/3 when he meant 3/4"

Ha Ha. Best typo ever.
Posted By: yjoh Re: 3/3 time signature - 05/21/12 01:10 AM
Don't be sorry, it wasn't a stir at all. Just a lot of fun really. I figured that was what he meant and it was just a typo.

The discussion was interesting though! LOL
Posted By: Matt Finley Re: 3/3 time signature - 05/21/12 02:58 AM
Lots of fun here. Besides, I much prefer playing in 5/5 to 3/3.
Posted By: yjoh Re: 3/3 time signature - 05/21/12 04:33 AM
Any time you can play is a good time.
Posted By: jford Re: 3/3 time signature - 05/21/12 10:43 AM
Wow, what a waste of time!?! I looked in Sibelius and couldn't find a 1/3rd note. Wasn't there in Finale, either. Nor in MuseScore or Noteworthy Composer. Finally gave up in disgust. Third notes, hah!


Okay, yeah, I didn't actually do any of those things, 'cause there ain't no such thing as a "third" note; sounds like something you would hear from the "third" hole over.

Posted By: John Conley Re: 3/3 time signature - 05/21/12 12:11 PM
A third of a note is a triplet. That happens all the time. Henry Purcell did a few operatic pieces in 3/2. Dido and Aeneas, sort of adapted from Virgil.

Wow, and this before breakfast. I'll go take my blood sugar and see if I can duplicate this memory feat.
Posted By: rharv Re: 3/3 time signature - 05/21/12 11:20 PM
He had the "3" where the "2" would be in your example John. (3/3/ opposed to 3/2)Otherwise what you said is pretty good memory in my eyes. I certainly wouldn't remember that (and probably never knew it).


Much like Matt I enjoy 5/5 better, and even an 11/11 once in a while. 3/3 got real boring real fast. Try to draw an 11th note! You gotta get the flags just so. Notation wouldn't print them for me. Go figger.
Posted By: jford Re: 3/3 time signature - 05/22/12 12:24 AM
I think I'm now inspired to write a 23/23 song. Hmmmm, prime number music...

Posted By: LoveGuitar Re: 3/3 time signature - 05/22/12 11:31 PM
Sounds like a crappy bet in Vegas
Posted By: rharv Re: 3/3 time signature - 05/23/12 12:58 AM
prime number music
nice album title for the right niche
or prime time music ..

If others here are interested in odd time music, by all means please speak up. I have lots of ideas .. many of them started in seq format. Odd time can be fun.
We can meet in a hidden corner if we have to.
Posted By: Matt Finley Re: 3/3 time signature - 05/23/12 01:30 AM
Always on the lookout for new band names:

'Crappy Bet in Vegas'
'Prime Time Music' (that one's not so bad for society gigs)
'Meet in a Hidden Corner'

I'm blaming Bob...
Posted By: John Conley Re: 3/3 time signature - 05/23/12 01:29 PM
We have a local band called Bobnoxious.
Posted By: rharv Re: 3/3 time signature - 05/24/12 01:38 AM
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We have a local band called Bobnoxious.



... then you've seen me play guitar??
Posted By: John Conley Re: 3/3 time signature - 05/24/12 12:29 PM
Get with the program bob me lad.

The silly of London,( mean city )booked that band for xmas last year.

They were on a big float. Generator / Sound system.

1200 bucks for 1.5 hours on a Sunday afternoon in November. Cool.

Weird Gig or What?

I can see Shatner doing that one. Weird Gig or what? Heck he's only 80 something. Might as well work part time. The Canadian Govt gives you about 900 smackers to sit at home when you are retired.
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