... to generate MIDI data from the playing of a RealTrack?
Specifically the drum track.
Yes? No? Maybe? It depends...?
I'm all ears!
These videos explain how to copy Real Tracks in a way that will yield MIDI data. Never mind that they seem to be talking about Ukulele. It works with any Real Track that has Realchart notation. It will not work with drums, because as far as I know none of the real drums tracks has notation.
http://screencast.com/t/8zrPgQIDlnhttp://screencast.com/t/8bM45o68drhttp://screencast.com/t/rF8aaAXUThe videos are found on this support page:
http://www.pgmusic.com/videos.bbwin.htm
It's a shame it doesn't work with drums.
Oh, well... would've been too easy, isn't it?
You need to make MIDI Super Tracks with Drums too.
Are you listening, Peter?
Don't know if there are any Drum Supertracks in our future, but we already have Live MIDI Drums in many of the MIDI styles. These were made using a live drummer playing a MIDI drumkit and, of course, recorded as MIDI and then placed into the Style.
On top of that, to get MIDI drums, typically all you have to do is load a MIDI style and go to the RealDrums control panel and turn off the "substitute realdrums" command at the top. The Green Drums will turn to Yellow, indicating that a MIDI part is playing on the Drums track now.
--Mac
In the Stylepicker, Realtracks styles are identified by an underscore (_stylename) in front of their name.
This underscore will also show up in the Style slot on the main page view of BB,
--Mac
I agree with Mario as far as the good existing grooves in midi format out there. I have a few of those and using the right drum synth (i.e. EZDrummer for instance)makes the heck of a difference, they sound very natural and convincing, as they should, since they are recorded by actual drummers.
Correction...EZDrummer is not a synth, I should have said "a VST" instrument. Do not want somebody confused.
Ivan?.? Was he just here?
I am one of those people with MANY top-of-the-line sound modules, and generally I prefer the sound of those MIDI modules over Real Tracks, Not to mention being able to easily edit MIDI tracks. I frequently slice & dice real tracks in my Sequencer, but that's another story.
Real Tracks are great for quickly putting together a professional sounding performance, but when I'm polishing that "Fabulous New Song" I go with MIDI as much as I can.
Pepe, sorry I didn't mean to set you off buddy. Yes, lots of midi drum tracks can sound very good I have Jamstix, Sampletank and other synths all with good midi drum kits. What I use them for is to create certain fills and song specific punches to blend in with a Real Drum track. I know all about working with midi drums but even excellent midi drums still can't hold a candle to a good Real Drum track in my opinion and the opinion of probably 95% of the posters on this forum.
A lot of this depends on what kind of music you're into. Some styles lend themselves to midi drums and they sound very good but other styles don't regardless of what midi synth you use. The styles most popular here include jazz, classic rock, country and latin. I can listen to a song in any of those styles and can tell in about two seconds if it's using midi drums or Real Drums. You may not have been posting here Pepe when the Real Drums first came out about 5 years ago. The difference is huge and every one of us posting right now in this thread said the same thing at the time. The first set of RD's created an absolute sensation around here.
All I meant to say was after all that and how excited we all were to have RD's and all the comments about how the RD's alone (this was before Real Tracks) made all the midi instruments sound so much better, creating midi drum Super Tracks seems like we'd be going backwards not forwards because you can get all the killer midi drum loops you want from all over the place including like Mac said, inside Biab itself. That capability is already there and we were already doing everything we could to make the midi drums sound better until the RD's came out and changed everything.
There are a few here and maybe you're one of them, who prefer working with midi because of the precise editing ability and that's perfectly ok, I like that too but the reason I said Peter doesn't need to bother with midi drums is because I know the history here and I doubt very much if new midi drums would get many people excited about it.
Also, I just personally hate when someone uses that phrase, "are you listening, Peter?" You're assuming everybody thinks that, that this has been a problem for years and Peter has just been ignoring you. That's pretty presumptuous on your part, don't you think? Just simply say your request and your thoughts about it, leave out that "are you listening" part.
Bob
Thinks about SuperMIDI drum SOLOS, though...
Sigh.
I would love to meet you in Milan, I know that's a great place. I seriously have always wanted to visit Italy. We could sit in at a sidewalk palazzo in the summer, sip some wine and girl watch. Forget all this crap, just have some fun, eh?
Peace brother, we're totally cool.
bob
I really went toward RDs when they first came out, and still use them, I find I get far better results with midi now especially when I split the tracks up, and mix carefully. I have noticed that RD development has fallen far behind RT development. I "assume" that is because many still use and prefer midi drums. Drums are one of the instruments that still really lend to midi. So much control, so many options. Split the drums, select VSTI and mix, don't like the kick in sample tank, and Jamstix, need a different snare add Ezdrummer. Want something different. Get it.