This is either REAL easy and I'm just being stupid or impossible. Have a Waves instrument that I'd like to load into BiaB. Have found the .dll file under X86 but it won't load to replace sforzando. Other VST's will load, just not Waves. Maybe I'm looking at the wrong directory? Hmmm. Not expecting much, but thanks for the look! Ron

Is it 64-bit maybe? Are you using jbridge?

http://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=406123

Pipeline, think you've pointed me to what I need. So...it's NEITHER impossible nor simple, but doable with a little work. Will provide feedback.

PhillyJazz, it is 32-bit and yes, I'm using jbridge. Best $10 I ever spent (at the time).

Can't get either of the two methods in Pipeline's link to work.

Since Waves VST's are .bundle files and not .dll files, can't get Minihost to find them.

Shell2vst's drag and drop method reports 0 .vst files created.

The search continues...

DC Ron, look in your vst folders in both 64 and 32 bit programs folders for something call waveshell-something (they names after waveshell vary). This is the dll that will load the bundles you have.

Also note that most waves products are effects, NOT instruments, so you can not replace your sforzando with an effect. You can only replace a VSTi like sforzando with another VSTi like Cakewalk's TTS-1. Not the i stands for instrument in VSTi. Without the i, a VST, it is an effect. Are you sure that the waves' product you have is a VSTi?

I hope this helps and good luck.

Ps - I do not use waves in BiaB so this is as far as I can take you. I use Sonar as my DAW. You may be better off using RealBand but I don't know for sure.

Mario, thanks for the tips, will look at this again, but won't overwork it. I mix in Sonar as well, just wanted to try Waves new Rhapsody Grand on some piano supertracks to see how they sound together in BiaB. Have been moving BiaB midi supertracks over to sonar and plugging in the instrument, which works but is slower for trying different tracks. More to do!

Well, I'm walking away from this for now. Tried both techniques in post #3 link, and even tried the VST Wrapper Builder. Can get a menu of "wrapped" Waves VST files, but they won't load in BiaB. Might circle back to this if it really becomes a need to have and not a nice to have. Thanks again to all who responded...

I was going to download a Waves Instrument demo and see if I can get it to work, but by past experience it is a real hassle to install and register.
I will see how I go for time and enthusiasm and might try again.

Pipeline, thanks for the interest. I've wasted enough time on this, please don't go overboard. Was thinking SOMEBODY has this working. The new Waves piano VSTi is really nice...

3 hours on...still trying to get Waves Grand Rhapsody Piano Instrument installed, downloading, installing, updating, restarting, login failing.......

My memory was correct, my enthusiasm has been killed again.