Hi again
When I load a song with midi instrument tracks but with realdrums track. The drum track is out of sinc with the midi tracks.
I get a strange count in too from the real drums track. Instead of the usual 1-2-1234, I just get 3-1234 then the midi tracks start out of sing with the drums.
I’ve tried ‘sliding’ the Realdrum track but that does not work even with the maximum amount allowed.
Any advice please?

Had that, and now seems less happening with v512. Usually refreshing the RTs fixes that. F

Just tried rebuild on RTs and RDs no change I’m afraid. I also have the latest build. 512.
Is there no way to edit the intro bars in realdrums as I feel that is where the issue is?
Thanks anyway F.
Dave

I have had 3 issues that we all fixed by logging in as administrator and the setting back to factory defaults. One of them was a sync issue too (the chord window bars were not in sync with the music and were actually out by exactly one beat). I have no idea why this fixed the issues but it did. I also had one midi driver issue get fixed with a fresh install of windows after getting a new disk drive when the one I replaced had an error.

So now I maintain a list of things I have to reset after I do this fix (only 3 minor things). I am considering doing this factory reset at least once a month or before my live jams.

I agree with John. The above is what I'd try.

To log in as administrator...

1. close BIAB

2. Right-click on the start-up short-cut and select "Run as administrator

Setting "back to factory defaults" is found under the "Options" menu on the top menu bar. There are two options here. Try the "Most settings" one first and then, if that doesn't work, try the "All settings".

Also, prior to resetting, I suggest saving a copy of the current preferences (under "Options") so that they can be reloaded if necessary.

Lastly, before doing any of the above, restart the computer. A full restart will clear all memories of those bits and bytes that sometimes get stuck in memories and stop the computer from operating at its optimum.

Regards,
Noel

Hi Davedrum,

If you click on the Options menu, then MIDI/Audio Driver Setup, is the "Use VST/DXi Synth" checkbox checked?

If it isn't, then you may be using the Microsoft GS Wavetable Synth (MIDI Output Driver) for your MIDI sounds, which often has a lot of latency, causing sync issues.

Checking that box usually fixes it.

Thanks
Kent
PG Music

Thanks for your post above Noel. There were a few things I didn't know.

In the end, if reinstalling windows is a cause, taking an image backup immediately after your software is loaded is a great time saver for any future needs to bring Windows back to the way it was upon a fresh install. I use Acronis or AOMEI. AOMEI may not be able to create a rescue disk with Win 7 but since it is free there is no risk trying. I created a rescue disk in Win 10 and it is readable in Win 7 and they say it will work to bring back my images.

Oh dear, what a foul up.

I Followed the above instructions exactly as listed now I have all sorts of weirdness going off.
Firstly no sound at all. Then about 10 to 15 seconds later, the sound starts on its own but with no real drums.
A real mess, don’t know what to do next.
For info output driver is set to MS GS wavtable synth and the VSTi/DXi synth box is ticked. Tried unticking .. Mindy instruments kick in then a few seconds later realdrums start.
Absolute mess!

HELP!!!!

Would the operating system and cpu speed effect it? What about disk drive errors etc.

My charting software company would ask you to open a chat with support and be ready to give them a randomly generated code for them to log in to take control of your machine to pock around. They have done this with me about 5 times. Most times they were able to fix the problem immediately. One time they sent some diagnostic logs for the developers to study(something hidden away in the software). There was one time they asked me to take a video of exactly what was happening on the screen (the situation warranted that and they used it to solve the problem. Support beyond anything I have seen). I don't know what the competition is for BIAB but no one could touch it if they did this. Having said that the software is pushing $2,000 now for a life time purchase. I got it for about $600 in 2007.

Dave,

Try the below and see if it helps.

Firstly...

Have a look at IMAGE 1 below.

1. Click on Audio (#1 on IMAGE 1)

2. Select "Audio | Audio Driver/Settings" (#2)

3. Click on the dropdown menu (#3) and set the Audio driver to MME (it's probably set to WAS at the moment)


Secondly...

Have a look at IMAGE 2 below.

1. Select "Options | Preferences" and then select the MIDI driver button (#1 on IMAGE 2)

2. Set #2, #3, #4, #5 exactly as shown on IMAGE 2

3. Click on button #6. This will open a new dialogue window (IMAGE 3 below).

4. Click on "Default Synth" button (#1 on IMAGE 3)

5. Click on the dropdown menu (#2) and select Coyote WT. Close the window

6. Button #7 should say MME. If it doesn't, click on it and select MME as the audio driver

The above are general, default settings for BIAB that should work.



Now Exit back to BIAB.

Load a song, generate it and see how it sounds. I suggest that before trying a song that's a mix of MIDI tracks, Realtracks and Realdrums, try a song that is all Realtrack and Realdrums.

How did you go? Did the all-Realinstruments song play ok? Also, did the song that was a mix of MIDI and Realtracks play ok?


Regards,
Noel

As Kent suggested, MS wavetable is a NONO. The Coyote wave table synth that comes with BIAB is far better. How ever there are many GM soft synths out there, free or payed which are still better. My fav is Halion Sonic (SE or 2), and a 32bit version comes with Cubase's older pre v9 versions, also the cheaper versions like Artist and maybe also Elements.

I use Halion Sonic 3, jBridged for BIAB. But you've supplied not too much info about your system. It can be that your windows needs some tweaking, especially if it's windows 10; I found f.i. USB audio errors thanks to a windows 10 DirectX 12 issue, and also some graphics hardware drivers can give problems since a recent windows update. F

Dave,

From the date you've joined the forum, I interpret it to mean that you are relatively new to all this and I suspect that some things that have been said in the posts above might be confusing.

Just to clarify some things that have been said...

My above instructions tell you how to set up the Coyote wavetable synth (Coyote WT) that fiddler mentions.

Also, for Coyote WT to work properly, it's necessary to have Microsoft GS Wavetable synth selected (#2 on IMAGE 2 above). The Microsoft Wavetable Synth will not be playing but it is a quirk of BIAB that its selection is required for the best performance of Coyote WT (which is what you will hear after setting up as I've described in a couple of posts above).

Regards,
Noel

Noel. , you’ve done it again! THANKYOU!
Followed your instruction to the letter and all seems to be working again as normal, including rectifying my original problem of real drums being out of sinc with the midi tracks.
Sadly I’ve no idea why what I did worked (I’m not that into the computing side of things) however I’m going to copy you instruction for future use just in case.

Once again thank you. Absolute lifesaver.

Regards and respect to you sir.
Dave

Just want to post my thanks to all you guys for your suggestions and help.
I’ve used BIAB before but a very early 2005 version with no realband, realtracks etc.
The technical side of the package I’ve never come to terms with, I just want it to do what it says on the tin so to speak. I have absolutely no aversion to computers and have used them for years but not on a technical
Your advice and hel has helped me a great deal in these early days with BIAB 2018 which is a bib big step up from my 2005 version.
Once again thank everyone
Dave.

Hi Dave,

I'm glad that all is back up and running for you.

What I encourage you do now is to go to "Options" and click on "Save preferences". This will allow you to save all your preferences that are now working. Then, if something unexpected happens in the future that makes things a bit wobbly again, it's just a matter of reloading the saved preferences.

Regards,
Noel

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