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Posted By: Trygve Larsen More Importing problems - 02/07/19 11:23 AM
Being tired of typing in chord and lyrics, I bought SmartScore Song version.. I can se it does a decent job... The problem is BiaB. When I import the exported midi file in Biab, the chords become wrong, AS IF the correct chords, that Smart Score have read from the PDF score, are just overlooked.. BUT, when I export as XML, and import that to BiaB, the chords are correct.. What is NOT correct then, is the time signature.. The file I scanned today to test it was a plain 4/4 simple song and BiaB imported it as 2/4, so that mess up the correct chords also, by being correct in the BARS according to the score, but wrong to the notes, since the song been imported as 2/4 instead of 4/4...

So this become a lot of mess for me.. BiaB cannot import 2/4 midi songs, BUT when it is served a 4/4 song as XML, THEN it gives a 2/4.. What the heck????

So my question is; Is there a way to import Midi files with the CORRECT chords that obliviously IS there? Without BiaB try to reinterpret the chords?
Posted By: AudioTrack Re: More Importing problems - 02/07/19 05:18 PM
Quote:
So my question is; Is there a way to import Midi files with the CORRECT chords that obliviously IS there? Without BiaB try to reinterpret the chords?

The current standard for MIDI as I understand it does not support a Chord structure in is protocol.
Others may know more.



Posted By: Pipeline Re: More Importing problems - 02/07/19 05:22 PM
Can you upload the PDF Midi XML
Posted By: Trygve Larsen Re: More Importing problems - 02/07/19 06:55 PM
Originally Posted By: Pipeline
Can you upload the PDF Midi XML

Ok, here is it; https://www.dropbox.com/preview/Tyven-tyven-skal-du-hete-Enak.mid?role=personal
https://www.dropbox.com/preview/Tyven-tyven-skal-du-hete-Enak.xml?role=personal
https://www.dropbox.com/preview/Tyven-tyven-skal-du-hete-Enak_0001.pdf?role=personal
Posted By: Pipeline Re: More Importing problems - 02/07/19 08:02 PM
For each file click the Share button > Create Link > Copy Link

so you will get a link like this
https://www.dropbox.com/s/wx83pccx098efcr/Acidizer.zip?dl=0

rather than
https://www.dropbox.com/preview/Acidizer.zip?role=personal

if you change the 0 to a 1 on the end it will do a direct download rather than taking the user to the site.


Posted By: Trygve Larsen Re: More Importing problems - 02/08/19 04:41 AM
Ok, my connection was so slow when I did it, so the sharing did not come up, but it did now, so here it is; https://www.dropbox.com/s/uzrdjddgs4gy45n/Tyven-tyven-skal-du-hete-Enak.mid?dl=1

https://www.dropbox.com/s/yi4m6s0dvieqxsv/Tyven-tyven-skal-du-hete-Enak.xml?dl=1

https://www.dropbox.com/s/3ebfkvggjjvlrwi/Tyven-tyven-skal-du-hete-Enak_0001.pdf?dl=1

Thanks's for the tip Pipeline, I did not know about that...;)
Posted By: Pipeline Re: More Importing problems - 02/08/19 06:16 AM
I will have a deeper look later but just try this for now
Tyven-tyven-skal-du-hete-Enak4-4.xml
I just opened in Notepad and changed
Code:
<time symbol="cut">
        <beats>2</beats>
        <beat-type>2</beat-type>
</time>

to
Code:
<time symbol="cut">
        <beats>4</beats>
        <beat-type>4</beat-type>
</time>
Posted By: Noel96 Re: More Importing problems - 02/08/19 06:23 AM
Trygve,

After reading Pipeline's answer above, I thought I'd try BIAB's bar settings. What seemed to work for me was to set bar settings for bar 1 and change the "2" in the "# beats this bar" to zero.

I didn't scroll through the whole song but it looked to work for the first few bars.

Regards,
Noel

Pipeline: thank you for the lesson in XML. I haven't played around with this before and I didn't realise it could be opened in notepad.
Posted By: Trygve Larsen Re: More Importing problems - 02/08/19 08:21 AM
Originally Posted By: Pipeline
I will have a deeper look later but just try this for now
Tyven-tyven-skal-du-hete-Enak4-4.xml
I just opened in Notepad and changed
Code:
<time symbol="cut">
        <beats>2</beats>
        <beat-type>2</beat-type>
</time>

to
Code:
<time symbol="cut">


        <beats>4</beats>
        <beat-type>4</beat-type>
</time>

Wow ! Thank's a lot Pipeline! This is so good to know for next time.. But it must be something wrong with the export in SmartScore, don't u think?

I tested some files in another PDF to midi/XML, the PDFtoMusic Pro, from Myriad, and that program did not do the same mistake, so perhaps I will buy also that... Running a trial only, limitied to ONE page PDF...
Posted By: Trygve Larsen Re: More Importing problems - 02/08/19 08:25 AM
Originally Posted By: Noel96
Trygve,

After reading Pipeline's answer above, I thought I'd try BIAB's bar settings. What seemed to work for me was to set bar settings for bar 1 and change the "2" in the "# beats this bar" to zero.

I didn't scroll through the whole song but it looked to work for the first few bars.
Ok, thank's for stepping in Noel.. I've give that a shot tomorrow...
Posted By: Trygve Larsen Re: More Importing problems - 02/08/19 08:42 AM
Originally Posted By: Pipeline
I will have a deeper look later but just try this for now
Tyven-tyven-skal-du-hete-Enak4-4.xml


Tried that one now, and it worked perfectly.. Thank's again Pipeline... wink
Posted By: Trygve Larsen Re: More Importing problems - 02/08/19 10:20 AM
Originally Posted By: Noel96
Trygve,

After reading Pipeline's answer above, I thought I'd try BIAB's bar settings. What seemed to work for me was to set bar settings for bar 1 and change the "2" in the "# beats this bar" to zero.

You are a genius Joel ! THAT worked perfectly, and so quick and easy to do.. Thank's a lot.. That would never ever come to my mind...;)
Posted By: glevideo Re: More Importing problems - 03/13/19 01:00 PM
Trygve, please outline for me all the steps you go through to successfully scan in sheet music and import into BIaB. I'm a newbie and struggling with this functionality. Your help is appreciated. Thanks.
Posted By: Matt Finley Re: More Importing problems - 03/13/19 01:30 PM
Music XML is very readable if you've ever worked with code, just terribly wordy.

Videotrack's comment may have been overlooked: the MIDI standard does not include chord symbols. That's why you will do better to export from Smart Score as Music XML and not MIDI.
Posted By: Matt Finley Re: More Importing problems - 03/13/19 01:33 PM
Originally Posted By: glevideo
Trygve, please outline for me all the steps you go through to successfully scan in sheet music and import into BIaB. I'm a newbie and struggling with this functionality. Your help is appreciated. Thanks.
Glevideo, welcome to the forum. Your question received a few answers (including mine) in the other forum, so please check that. https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Main=75338&Number=528550#Post528550 Also, you'll do better in the future to start a new thread so we can concentrate on just your question.
Posted By: glevideo Re: More Importing problems - 03/15/19 12:47 AM
Thank you, Matt and others. I guess there's not a real easy button for this one. I'll look into MuseScore or perhaps roll up my sleeves and start to tackle manual note by note entry and see if I can then bring all three lines of music together and make sense of it. Thanks again.
Gary
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