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Posted By: Pipeline Biab Live Chord Input Playing - 10/28/19 08:28 PM
Biab should be able to be made to do this as it works with the conductor ok, but for now this can be done in Reaper by dragging the Biab master stereo track into Reaper,
the chords are imported from BB musicXML or via the Biab Plugin.
You just create up say 4 bars of all the chords you will be playing.
Reaper uses a midi chord detection plugin for detecting what chords are being played on the midi keyboard.
A script will send the play head smoothly to that region chord, the chords can be changed on the beat or bar.
The script will also read keyswitches of this first octave or octave you set, these keyswitches will tell Reaper what section to play next, verse, chorus, solo, verse ending, chorus ending, count-in etc..
Different styles can be loaded into each track, temp changed and track soloed.
You can also use another vst in front of it to use 1 finger chords.
https://trackbout.com/ripchord
https://www.codefn42.com/chordz/
http://www.vst4free.com/free_vst.php?plugin=midiChords&id=1642
Insert Piz Midi VSTs Google Code Archive
https://code.google.com/archive/p/pizmidi/downloads

The video is just the prototype with a few chords example and live chord input, I just want to see if this is something that would be usable to enable users to play live chord input into BB styles ??

Attached File
BB-Live-Chord-Input.mp4  (212 downloads)
Posted By: Pipeline Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing - 11/07/19 01:02 AM
If you could try this out, it still needs a bit of work but I just need some feedback.
Right click Save Link/Target As
ReaTrak_Region_Chord_Player.ReaperConfigZip
I'll make a better guide if it's all working ok.
After you have the Chord Player installed in Reaper from the guide below,
run ReaTrak midi chord input to region chord player.lua from the Action window or from the "Chord Region Player" button.
Create a Chord Input Track when asked "Yes"

Options > Preferences > MIDI Devices > enable Input from your keyboard.
On the Chord Input Midi track select your keyboard as Midi Input.

To get a Chord Font in the display right click chords.ttf > Install
in Options > Show REAPER Resource Path in finder/explorer
Scripts\ReaTrak\chords.ttf

Set the keyswitches to the notes in the pic or to your choice (these will be saved for next time)
Set the Keyswitch Octave to 1 or your choice.
You can also click the buttons on the GUI.

The idea is to generate up the tracks you need in Biab or Biab Plugin.
You generate up say 4 or more bars of the chords you will be using.
You can have more than 1 of the same chord region to give more variety.
Same with Endings. If you want Holds also you can have a maximum of 4 bars per hold.
You can generate up solos that can be put into the other color regions.

After you have generated up you track in BB or BB Plugin drag the stereo wav into a track under the Chord Input track. If the song is a different tempo than Reaper set Reaper to the bpm first.
Edit the track name so it has the tempo in it "My Song 4 120bpm"
this will allow you to have multiple tracks with different styles an tempos, as you select UP/Down it should solo the track and change the tempo.`
You can also have all the individual instrument tracks in a track "Folder" if need be.

To get the chords from BB into Reaper you can save as MusicXML, drag that into Reaper and hit the button "MusicXML Chords".
But if you have the BB Plugin just open the My Song.SGU, Unfold down the bottom right, save the My Song - Plugin.SGU reopen it again in the BB Plugin then hit the "Biab Plugin Chords" button, try it without fill regions for now as I will try and add auto fills to it.

You can add your own chord regions, just select the section, Shift+R and right click the region to edit name or color, but the easiest way is use the "*GUI*" "*GUI 2*" or "Circle of Fifths" buttons, you can then easily enter the chords or section color.
If you have the cursor under a chord region you can change the section color by clicking the colored buttons on the main panel.
Make sure you have Snap on and hit "Snap Chords to Grid" after.



Full Screen


Full Screen




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hm1qcxM0Lnc

EZ Install Guide

For those new to Reaper this might be an easier way to install/update ReaTrak.
1. Reaper > Options > Preferences > General > Export Configuration
check all boxes and Save as backup configuration !!!!

2. Reaper > Options > Preferences > General > Import Configuration
ReaTrak_xxx.ReaperConfigZip

3. Reaper > Actions > Show Action List > Import >
REAPER\KeyMaps\ReaTrak Scripts.ReaperKeyMap

4. Reaper > Actions > Show Action List > Import >
REAPER\KeyMaps\ReaReaTrak Custom Actions Required (Main).ReaperKeyMap

5. Reaper > Actions > Show Action List
Section> MIDI Editor > Import >
REAPER\ReaTrak MIDI Editor.ReaperKeyMap

6. Reaper > View > Toolbar Docker add or change toolbar from
REAPER\MenuSets\

7. Make sure you have SWS Extensions installed.


To Show Reaper Resource Path

Options > Show REAPER Resource Path in finder/explorer
Posted By: Pipeline Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing - 11/07/19 06:08 PM
This is changing styles that have a different bpm, you just need "xxxbpm" in the track name. You can Edit the track name or have it in the wav file name you drag in. Just make sure to change Reaper to that tempo before dropping in the wav, or you can export the BB mix with ACID.

Attached picture chord-region-player-track-up-down.gif
Posted By: Pipeline Update Biab Live Chord Input Playing - 11/08/19 04:40 AM
Here's an update it now has a change on Bar or Beat setting.
Right click Save Target/Link As
ReaTrak midi chord input to region chord player.lua

In Reaper > Option menu > Show Reaper resource path
Scripts\ReaTrack\
and replace ReaTrak midi chord input to region chord player.lua

Posted By: Pipeline Re: Update Biab Live Chord Input Playing - 11/08/19 07:50 PM
Update Endings colors now match:

Right click Save Target/Link As
ReaTrak midi chord input to region chord player.lua

In Reaper > Option menu > Show Reaper resource path
Scripts\ReaTrack\
and replace ReaTrak midi chord input to region chord player.lua
Posted By: Pipeline Re: Update Biab Live Chord Input Playing - 11/09/19 12:12 AM
I made a video demo, it only has a few chords and one 4 bar section for each. You can add a lot more to give more variety rather than playing the same 4 bar chord section.
The video is a bit jerky in places as there are a lot of things running and screen recording at the same time. It will play smoothly from chord to chord normally. The clicking is the chord pad as I have no keyboards here at the moment, so if someone could try it with their keyboard that would help.
It will also play direct from the BB Plugin without dragging any tracks in Reaper. You could have a BB Plugin on each track with a different style at a different bpm.

Watch Demo Video BB Tracks Chord Player
Posted By: Pipeline Re: Update Biab Live Chord Input Playing - 11/11/19 07:03 PM
Has anyone with Reaper and a keyboard tired this out yet ?
I don't have a keyboard here at the moment as I lend them out.
So if someone can give some feedback it would help.
Originally Posted By: Pipeline
Has anyone with Reaper and a keyboard tired this out yet ?
I don't have a keyboard here at the moment as I lend them out.
So if someone can give some feedback it would help.


Hey Pipeline,

I'd be thrilled to give it a shot. Thing is, I've got a fresh install of Reaper, and want to set up every chordpicker tool, utility, and script you've got on tap.

Thing is, there are so many threads and posts you have scattered piecemeal all over the forums with all different dates, I have no idea what order and what versions I should install things in...

Note that I've already got the SWS and Reascript extensions loaded.

Is there any chance you can post a comprehensive list of all the latest versions of your goodies (along with a link to the videos that are most current) so I don't start reinstalling things over each other, or install things that are really only relevant pre-BiaB 2019 VST?

BTW, you may want to post these in a new thread for others who may want to similarly avail themselves.

Finally, once I'm all set up, I would be thrilled to plug in my MIDI keyboard and sort this other stuff out...

Thanks again for all your amazing contributions!!!
Posted By: Pipeline Re: Update Biab Live Chord Input Playing - 11/13/19 02:49 AM
The website is down at the moment so here is the same file as above
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ca06iq6xxgza20y/ReaTrak_Region_Chord_Player.ReaperConfigZip?dl=1
it has all the latest scripts the one in the forum ReaTrak_ver.46.ReaperConfigZip is the latest but without the chord player, once this is working ok I'll add it to the ReaTrak_ver.47.ReaperConfigZip release.
Use the guide above to install into Reaper, there a youtube video as well.
Thanks Pipeline!

I'll get on this as soon as I free up some time today, and let you know if I have any questions :-)
Posted By: DeaconBlues09 Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing - 11/13/19 06:23 AM
Originally Posted By: Pipeline
If you could try this out, it still needs a bit of work but I just need some feedback.
Right click Save Link/Target As
ReaTrak_Region_Chord_Player.ReaperConfigZip
I'll make a better guide if it's all working ok.
After you have the Chord Player installed in Reaper from the guide below,
run ReaTrak midi chord input to region chord player.lua from the Action window or from the "Chord Region Player" button.
Create a Chord Input Track when asked "Yes"

Options > Preferences > MIDI Devices > enable Input from your keyboard.
On the Chord Input Midi track select your keyboard as Midi Input.

To get a Chord Font in the display right click chords.ttf > Install
in Options > Show REAPER Resource Path in finder/explorer
Scripts\ReaTrak\chords.ttf

Set the keyswitches to the notes in the pic or to your choice (these will be saved for next time)
Set the Keyswitch Octave to 1 or your choice.
You can also click the buttons on the GUI.

The idea is to generate up the tracks you need in Biab or Biab Plugin.
You generate up say 4 or more bars of the chords you will be using.
You can have more than 1 of the same chord region to give more variety.
Same with Endings. If you want Holds also you can have a maximum of 4 bars per hold.
You can generate up solos that can be put into the other color regions.

After you have generated up you track in BB or BB Plugin drag the stereo wav into a track under the Chord Input track. If the song is a different tempo than Reaper set Reaper to the bpm first.
Edit the track name so it has the tempo in it "My Song 4 120bpm"
this will allow you to have multiple tracks with different styles an tempos, as you select UP/Down it should solo the track and change the tempo.`
You can also have all the individual instrument tracks in a track "Folder" if need be.

To get the chords from BB into Reaper you can save as MusicXML, drag that into Reaper and hit the button "MusicXML Chords".
But if you have the BB Plugin just open the My Song.SGU, Unfold down the bottom right, save the My Song - Plugin.SGU reopen it again in the BB Plugin then hit the "Biab Plugin Chords" button, try it without fill regions for now as I will try and add auto fills to it.

You can add your own chord regions, just select the section, Shift+R and right click the region to edit name or color, but the easiest way is use the "*GUI*" "*GUI 2*" or "Circle of Fifths" buttons, you can then easily enter the chords or section color.
If you have the cursor under a chord region you can change the section color by clicking the colored buttons on the main panel.
Make sure you have Snap on and hit "Snap Chords to Grid" after.



Full Screen


Full Screen




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hm1qcxM0Lnc

EZ Install Guide

For those new to Reaper this might be an easier way to install/update ReaTrak.
1. Reaper > Options > Preferences > General > Export Configuration
check all boxes and Save as backup configuration !!!!

2. Reaper > Options > Preferences > General > Import Configuration
ReaTrak_xxx.ReaperConfigZip

3. Reaper > Actions > Show Action List > Import >
REAPER\KeyMaps\ReaTrak Scripts.ReaperKeyMap

4. Reaper > Actions > Show Action List > Import >
REAPER\KeyMaps\ReaReaTrak Custom Actions Required (Main).ReaperKeyMap

5. Reaper > Actions > Show Action List
Section> MIDI Editor > Import >
REAPER\ReaTrak MIDI Editor.ReaperKeyMap

6. Reaper > View > Toolbar Docker add or change toolbar from
REAPER\MenuSets\

7. Make sure you have SWS Extensions installed.


To Show Reaper Resource Path

Options > Show REAPER Resource Path in finder/explorer


Hey Pipeline,

I got through step 6, and I have SWS installed (see screenshot).

Not sure what I'm supposed to do at this point.

Within the context of this video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hm1qcxM0Lnc), what should I do next?

TIA!

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Posted By: Pipeline Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing - 11/13/19 06:52 AM
Right click on Toolbar 1 tab > Customize toolbar...
at the top left drop down Select > Floating toolbar 14, 15, or 16
at the bottom right > Import (this should take you to REAPER\MenuSets)
you should see
ReaTrak color icons toolbar 14 medium.ReaperMenu
ReaTrak color icons toolbar 15 small.ReaperMenu
ReaTrak color icons toolbar 16.ReaperMenu
select the appropriate number (you can change the toolbar slot by dragging it into Notepad and change the number to another slot.

Code:
[Floating toolbar 16]
title=ReaTrak Toolbar Large
icon_0=ReaTrak-count-in.png
icon_1=ReaTrak-intro-post-fill.png
icon_2=ReaTrak-intro.png
icon_3=ReaTrak-intro-fill.
........
........
Posted By: DeaconBlues09 Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing - 11/13/19 06:57 AM
Originally Posted By: Pipeline
Right click on Toolbar 1 tab > Customize toolbar...
at the top left drop down Select > Floating toolbar 14, 15, or 16
at the bottom right > Import (this should take you to REAPER\MenuSets)
you should see
ReaTrak color icons toolbar 14 medium.ReaperMenu
ReaTrak color icons toolbar 15 small.ReaperMenu
ReaTrak color icons toolbar 16.ReaperMenu
select the appropriate number (you can change the toolbar slot by dragging it into Notepad and change the number to another slot.

Code:
[Floating toolbar 16]
title=ReaTrak Toolbar Large
icon_0=ReaTrak-count-in.png
icon_1=ReaTrak-intro-post-fill.png
icon_2=ReaTrak-intro.png
icon_3=ReaTrak-intro-fill.
........
........


Thanks for the prompt reply! One more thing though, What's with the code in quotes? Is that something I need to copy-paste somewhere?
Posted By: Pipeline Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing - 11/13/19 07:04 AM
No that's if you open a ReaTrak color icons toolbar 16.ReaperMenu
in notepad.
You can drag the tab of the toolbar and drop it where you like on the Main GUI.



Attached File
Reaper-Toolbars.gif  (290 downloads)
Posted By: DeaconBlues09 Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing - 11/13/19 07:05 AM
Never mind, I got them installed! :-)

Now how should I run the region player script to test it out with my MIDI keyboard?

(Sorry for all these dumb questions...computers and code are not really my thing and I'm afraid I need some hand-holding here, lol)
Posted By: DeaconBlues09 Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing - 11/13/19 07:08 AM
Originally Posted By: Pipeline
No that's if you open a ReaTrak color icons toolbar 16.ReaperMenu
in notepad.
You can drag the tab of the toolbar and drop it where you like on the Main GUI.



Fantastic! Do you know of any shortcuts to switch between toolbars (preferably closing the one before, or even binding each shortcut to a key combination switchable by, say, a digit?)

You're the best, Pipeline!
Posted By: DeaconBlues09 Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing - 11/13/19 07:13 AM
Originally Posted By: DeaconBlues09
Never mind, I got them installed! :-)

Now how should I run the region player script to test it out with my MIDI keyboard?

(Sorry for all these dumb questions...computers and code are not really my thing and I'm afraid I need some hand-holding here, lol)



Never mind, I see the answer to my Q is further up in this thread (I think)...

Will update shortly.
Posted By: Pipeline Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing - 11/13/19 07:14 AM
Here's an update for the chord player it will set the beat or bar change at startup:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ulm7mu6xszds4qe/ReaTrak%20midi%20chord%20input%20to%20region%20chord%20player.lua?dl=1
Action menu > Show action list add whatever hotkey you like:


Attached picture Reaper-Toolbar-Shortcuts.png
Posted By: DeaconBlues09 Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing - 11/13/19 07:20 AM
Originally Posted By: Pipeline
Here's an update for the chord player it will set the beat or bar change at startup:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ulm7mu6xszds4qe/ReaTrak%20midi%20chord%20input%20to%20region%20chord%20player.lua?dl=1
Action menu > Show action list add whatever hotkey you like:


OK, I downloaded the script, but I'm not sure how to import it.

Please advise.

Thanks!
Posted By: Pipeline Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing - 11/13/19 07:26 AM
Options > Show REAPER Resource Path in finder/explorer

Scripts\ReaTrak\
Posted By: DeaconBlues09 Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing - 11/13/19 07:26 AM
Actually I see the script there now...

How do I run it? And do I need to set up a BiaB song first via the VST or otherwise?
Posted By: DeaconBlues09 Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing - 11/13/19 07:29 AM
Also, when I go to the action list, the script is not appearing under any of the submenus despite the fact that it is showing up under the actions list.

...actually I just realized I did not re-synchronize Reapack or the SWS extensions. Doing that now.

Will update
Posted By: DeaconBlues09 Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing - 11/13/19 07:38 AM
Update. I'm all set up with a blank Reaper project. All toolbars are installed and ready to go.

What's my next step vis a vis BaiB?
Posted By: Pipeline Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing - 11/13/19 07:39 AM
Just replace the script with the new one.
You should see "Chord Region Player" button bottom right in Toolbar.
Or Action menu > Show action list > type chord region player > run.

You can try it with the plugin just add 4 bars for each chord you will be using for now.
Save the chord as SGU, Open > SGU to reopen it.
"Biab Plugin Chords" button or run script.
Don't create fills, I'm working on that now so it will play a fill when you hit the same chord again or automatically after so many beat counts.
Posted By: DeaconBlues09 Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing - 11/13/19 07:47 AM
Originally Posted By: Pipeline
Just replace the script with the new one.
You should see "Chord Region Player" button bottom right in Toolbar.
Or Action menu > Show action list > type chord region player > run.

You can try it with the plugin just add 4 bars for each chord you will be using for now.
Save the chord as SGU, Open > SGU to reopen it.
"Biab Plugin Chords" button or run script.
Don't create fills, I'm working on the now so it will play a fill when you hit the same chord again or automatically after so many beat counts.


Is that shown in the screenshot the right version? I'm pretty sure I replaced it already.

BTW, the script is not showing up in the action list even though it's on the toolbar.
Also, when I press it, nothing launches.

Do I need to create the BiaB track first?
Posted By: Pipeline Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing - 11/13/19 07:49 AM
It plays smooth within the plugin but you can drag the master track out into a Reaper track and mute the plugin.
Just make sure you have the xxbpm in the track name box.
You can have a plugin on each track at a different temp and style, just load the common SGU into them.
Posted By: Pipeline Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing - 11/13/19 07:55 AM
Are there any other "ReaTrak" showing in the Action list.
If not you need to Load them them in step 3-4-5

Attached picture Action-List.gif
Posted By: DeaconBlues09 Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing - 11/13/19 07:57 AM
OK. I saved it as Pipeline120bpm.SGU, reopned the file, dragged it into Reaper but there is no meta-data/chord regions as shown in your vids. The buttons on the toolbar are unresponsive.
Posted By: DeaconBlues09 Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing - 11/13/19 08:02 AM
Originally Posted By: Pipeline
Are there any other "ReaTrak" showing in the Action list.
If not you need to Load them them in step 3-4-5


This is what I got at the moment.

Am I good? Yay or nay?

Attached picture Rea.PNG
Posted By: Pipeline Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing - 11/13/19 08:04 AM
You reopen the file in the Biab Plugin,
now hit the Biab Plugin Chords button in the ReaTrack toolbar,
it will ask on first time run for the Song.txt in bb\
select No to create Fill regions
Posted By: Pipeline Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing - 11/13/19 08:06 AM
In the Drop down right top in Action list select Main.
Posted By: DeaconBlues09 Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing - 11/13/19 08:10 AM
OK, I figured it out (I was trying to run the script via "import," rather than "load").

However, I just got this error message when trying to launch via the toolbar.

Attached picture run error.PNG
Posted By: Pipeline Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing - 11/13/19 08:14 AM
When you Imported the Scripts into the Action window you need to have it on Main for step 3&4
and on MIDI Editor for step 5
I will edit that.

3. Reaper > Actions > Show Action List > Import >
REAPER\KeyMaps\ReaTrak Scripts.ReaperKeyMap

4. Reaper > Actions > Show Action List > Import >
REAPER\KeyMaps\ReaReaTrak Custom Actions Required (Main).ReaperKeyMap

5. Reaper > Actions > Show Action List
Section> MIDI Editor > Import >
REAPER\ReaTrak MIDI Editor.ReaperKeyMap
Posted By: DeaconBlues09 Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing - 11/13/19 08:23 AM
Originally Posted By: Pipeline
When you Imported the Scripts into the Action window you need to have it on Main for step 3&4
and on MIDI Editor for step 5
I will edit that.

3. Reaper > Actions > Show Action List > Import >
REAPER\KeyMaps\ReaTrak Scripts.ReaperKeyMap

4. Reaper > Actions > Show Action List > Import >
REAPER\KeyMaps\ReaReaTrak Custom Actions Required (Main).ReaperKeyMap

5. Reaper > Actions > Show Action List
Section> MIDI Editor > Import >
REAPER\ReaTrak MIDI Editor.ReaperKeyMap


I'm missing this one

3. Reaper > Actions > Show Action List > Import >
REAPER\KeyMaps\ReaTrak Scripts.ReaperKeyMap

Attached picture keymaps.PNG
Posted By: DeaconBlues09 Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing - 11/13/19 08:24 AM
Originally Posted By: DeaconBlues09
Originally Posted By: Pipeline
When you Imported the Scripts into the Action window you need to have it on Main for step 3&4
and on MIDI Editor for step 5
I will edit that.

3. Reaper > Actions > Show Action List > Import >
REAPER\KeyMaps\ReaTrak Scripts.ReaperKeyMap

4. Reaper > Actions > Show Action List > Import >
REAPER\KeyMaps\ReaReaTrak Custom Actions Required (Main).ReaperKeyMap

5. Reaper > Actions > Show Action List
Section> MIDI Editor > Import >
REAPER\ReaTrak MIDI Editor.ReaperKeyMap


I'm missing this one

3. Reaper > Actions > Show Action List > Import >
REAPER\KeyMaps\ReaTrak Scripts.ReaperKeyMap




Unless you had the 2 components of the file name reversed? As in it should have been the bottom one?
Posted By: DeaconBlues09 Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing - 11/13/19 08:27 AM
Nevermind, I think I got it. Lemme relaunch and I'll update sppm
Posted By: Pipeline Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing - 11/13/19 08:28 AM
Originally Posted By: DeaconBlues09
OK, I figured it out (I was trying to run the script via "import," rather than "load").

However, I just got this error message when trying to launch via the toolbar.



What where you running ? the Chord Region Player or the GUI ?

Try this one it will show the location of the script:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ulm7mu6xszds4qe/ReaTrak%20midi%20chord%20input%20to%20region%20chord%20player.lua?dl=1
in that folder you should have a folder ReaTrak_Classes
Posted By: Pipeline Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing - 11/13/19 08:33 AM
this is what you should have in the ReaTrak folder:

Attached picture script-path.png
Posted By: DeaconBlues09 Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing - 11/13/19 08:41 AM
All was going fine until I got this error when trying to load the tff file.

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Posted By: DeaconBlues09 Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing - 11/13/19 08:44 AM
Tried again, and I fear I may have screwed something up :-(

On that note, any idea why I can't locate the Appdata roaming folder via file explorer via the same path I can open via Reaper's "show resource path" ?

Attached picture next error.PNG
Posted By: Pipeline Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing - 11/13/19 08:45 AM
Try this Chord Player script
https://www.dropbox.com/s/jxuc5v8rcolag1y/ReaTrak%20midi%20chord%20input%20to%20region%20chord%20player.lua?dl=1
Posted By: DeaconBlues09 Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing - 11/13/19 08:46 AM
Note that I made very sure to load tff and not txt, so I have no idea why it's referring to txt in the second error message.
Posted By: DeaconBlues09 Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing - 11/13/19 08:47 AM


Should I delete all the old ones first?
Posted By: Pipeline Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing - 11/13/19 08:48 AM
You need to go to the bb\ folder that is where Song.txt is

Attached picture Song txt.png
Posted By: Pipeline Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing - 11/13/19 08:49 AM
EDIT:
yes replace old chord player script with new then run
Posted By: DeaconBlues09 Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing - 11/13/19 08:52 AM
OK, installed new script, but when I try to run the action I'm still getting this:

ReaTrak import chords from biab plugin.lua:145: cannot open file 'C:\Users\Intel\AppData\Roaming\REAPER\Scripts\ReaTrak\Song.txt' (No such file or directory)

How do I redirect it to the proper path?
Posted By: Pipeline Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing - 11/13/19 08:53 AM
Originally Posted By: DeaconBlues09
Tried again, and I fear I may have screwed something up :-(

On that note, any idea why I can't locate the Appdata roaming folder via file explorer via the same path I can open via Reaper's "show resource path" ?


In Explorer > Show Hidden Files/Folders

the chord.ttf right click on it Install
same for LeagueGothic-CondensedItalic.ttf

these will give Fonts in the GUI's
Posted By: DeaconBlues09 Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing - 11/13/19 08:55 AM
Originally Posted By: Pipeline
You need to go to the bb\ folder that is where Song.txt is


I don't understand what the purpose of the txt file you show is?

My latest roadblock started when it wanted to import a tff file the first time I tried running the BiaB plugins chord script from the docker (and, as you demonstrated earlier in the thread, was supposed to be under the Appdata/roaming etc path).
Posted By: Pipeline Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing - 11/13/19 08:56 AM
Go back through the post you may have mist one.
The Song.txt is in the bb folder
Posted By: Pipeline Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing - 11/13/19 09:00 AM
The Song.txt that you open with "Biab Plugin Chords" will have the chord info in it for Reaper to insert chord regions.
If you open that text you will see bar number and chord names.
Posted By: DeaconBlues09 Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing - 11/13/19 09:00 AM
Originally Posted By: Pipeline
Originally Posted By: DeaconBlues09
Tried again, and I fear I may have screwed something up :-(

On that note, any idea why I can't locate the Appdata roaming folder via file explorer via the same path I can open via Reaper's "show resource path" ?


In Explorer > Show Hidden Files/Folders

the chord.ttf right click on it Install
same for LeagueGothic-CondensedItalic.ttf

these will give Fonts in the GUI's


Yay!!! Checking to display the hidden files and folders did the trick!!!

However, I'm not given a prompt re: how I might cure this error by redirecting the path.

ReaTrak import chords from biab plugin.lua:145: cannot open file 'C:\Users\Intel\AppData\Roaming\REAPER\Scripts\ReaTrak\Song.txt' (No such file or directory)
Posted By: DeaconBlues09 Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing - 11/13/19 09:00 AM
Originally Posted By: Pipeline
The Song.txt that you open with "Biab Plugin Chords" will have the chord info in it for Reaper to insert chord regions.
If you open that text you will see bar number and chord names.


See my latest post
Posted By: DeaconBlues09 Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing - 11/13/19 09:06 AM
In other words, the script (and it's shortcut) refuse to allow me to browse to set a new location (e.g. C\bb\Song.txt.)
Posted By: Pipeline Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing - 11/13/19 09:13 AM
I see what's happened you opened a file in the appdata folder so it's set that as the bb Song.txt folder
So show the reaper resource path and in the root you will see REAPER.INI open it and search for the line
reatrak_bb_folder
delete the line or change it to
reatrak_bb_folder=C:\bb\ (or where bb is)
Posted By: DeaconBlues09 Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing - 11/13/19 09:18 AM
Originally Posted By: Pipeline
I see what's happened you opened a file in the appdata folder so it's set that as the bb Song.txt folder
So show the reaper resource path and in the root you will see REAPER.INI open it and search for the line
reatrak_bb_folder
delete the line or change it to
reatrak_bb_folder=C:\bb\ (or where bb is)


You mean this?

reatrak_bb_folder=C:\Users\Intel\AppData\Roaming\REAPER\Scripts\ReaTrak\

Should look like exactly like this?

reatrak_bb_folder=C:\bb\Song.txt
Posted By: Pipeline Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing - 11/13/19 09:22 AM
Just the folder should do it
reatrak_bb_folder=C:\bb\
Posted By: DeaconBlues09 Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing - 11/13/19 09:24 AM
Originally Posted By: Pipeline
Just the folder should do it
reatrak_bb_folder=C:\bb\


Save (overwrite?) or Save as?
Posted By: Pipeline Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing - 11/13/19 09:25 AM
I will add a popup message on the first run to say "Go to BB folder and open Song.txt"
Posted By: Pipeline Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing - 11/13/19 09:26 AM
Save and close
Posted By: DeaconBlues09 Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing - 11/13/19 09:29 AM
I GOT IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks man!

This took me waaaay longer than I thought, and I have some stuff to take care of, but I'll be back later in the afternoon to address the other matters.
Posted By: DeaconBlues09 Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing - 11/13/19 09:34 AM
While I still have you here, and because you may not be available to communicate further when I try to test out whatever it was with the keyboard, I just want to clarify. The idea is to press play in Reaper (after I run the script we've been going over), and it will jam in key along with the chord changes?

Is there another step before we get there, as in a another script I need to run that will input MIDI chords in Reaper as you demonstrated in the UJAM bass piano and keys video?
Posted By: Pipeline Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing - 11/13/19 09:37 AM
Ok I'll go to bed. Thanks for trying it as I know how to improve things now to make it easier to install and use.
I will make a full easy step by step guide.
Then when you learnt it you can make some more of those great videos.
Posted By: DeaconBlues09 Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing - 11/13/19 09:42 AM
Originally Posted By: Pipeline
Ok I'll go to bed. Thanks for trying it as I know how to improve things now to make it easier to install and use.
I will make a full easy step by step guide.
Then when you learnt it you can make some more of those great videos.


Thanks for the compliment!

TBH, the chord to MIDI part opens up so many doors, I will definitely be making a video about it once I have it down :-)
Posted By: jazzmammal Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing - 11/13/19 02:26 PM
Just want to let you guys know I've been following this closely. I really like playing arranger keyboards, they're a lot of fun so to be able to run Biab as a live arranger would be very cool.

I just installed Reaper two days ago and I put several VST's on midi tracks and I have sound with a midi file so that's a good start. We all have life issues to deal with along with learning something new like this so I totally appreciate what you guys are doing. An example with me, I live in mountains in California in a fire hazard area and they just cut the power this morning so I'm running the computer and my fridge off a generator right now.

Bob
Posted By: DeaconBlues09 Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing - 11/13/19 04:09 PM
Originally Posted By: jazzmammal
Just want to let you guys know I've been following this closely. I really like playing arranger keyboards, they're a lot of fun so to be able to run Biab as a live arranger would be very cool.

I just installed Reaper two days ago and I put several VST's on midi tracks and I have sound with a midi file so that's a good start. We all have life issues to deal with along with learning something new like this so I totally appreciate what you guys are doing. An example with me, I live in mountains in California in a fire hazard area and they just cut the power this morning so I'm running the computer and my fridge off a generator right now.

Bob


So for me the most exciting thing is the ability to "print" midi chords and have chord progression instantly render into regions in Reaper. After the whole ordeal Pipeline was gracious enough to endure with me, the moment I hit the button to run the script and watching everything fall into place hitting another button which populated a track with MIDI chords (including clean neat MIDI lines with every chord note and all the extensions starting and ending perfectly flush with each measure!...something I've never been able to do with BiaB "held" MIDI piano tracks, and, as far as I know, simply can't be done with BiaB...) my heart leapt right into my throat!

The arranger thing also sounds amazing, and something I hope to get a handle on soon :-)

Good luck with your getting your power back and stay safe, Bob!

Best wishes,

Deacon
Posted By: Pipeline Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing - 11/13/19 04:14 PM
Originally Posted By: DeaconBlues09
While I still have you here, and because you may not be available to communicate further when I try to test out whatever it was with the keyboard, I just want to clarify. The idea is to press play in Reaper (after I run the script we've been going over), and it will jam in key along with the chord changes?

Is there another step before we get there, as in a another script I need to run that will input MIDI chords in Reaper as you demonstrated in the UJAM bass piano and keys video?


Yes you just press Play/Stop on the Chord Player GUI or the associated keyswitch on the keyboard, as you need to set the default keyswitches the same as in the pic, that's if you have the GUI working now ? try all the GUI's *GUI* *GUI 2* Circle of Fifths and GUI Menu.
If you click the "Midi Chord Track" button it will give you you midi chord track for instruments to follow.
Posted By: Pipeline Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing - 11/13/19 04:18 PM
Also it will be able to Import Keyboard STY PRS etc.. and fit them to the chord track. I'm just working on that at the moment.
Posted By: Pipeline Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing - 11/13/19 04:45 PM
I updated a few things
Right click Save Link/Target As
ReaTrak_Region_Chord_Player.ReaperConfigZip
Posted By: MarioD Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing - 11/13/19 05:25 PM
Originally Posted By: jazzmammal
Just want to let you guys know I've been following this closely. I really like playing arranger keyboards, they're a lot of fun so to be able to run Biab as a live arranger would be very cool.

I just installed Reaper two days ago and I put several VST's on midi tracks and I have sound with a midi file so that's a good start. We all have life issues to deal with along with learning something new like this so I totally appreciate what you guys are doing. An example with me, I live in mountains in California in a fire hazard area and they just cut the power this morning so I'm running the computer and my fridge off a generator right now.

Bob


Bob, please be safe and evacuate as quickly as possible if need be.
Posted By: Pipeline Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing - 11/13/19 07:28 PM
Originally Posted By: Pipeline
I updated a few things
Right click Save Link/Target As
ReaTrak_Region_Chord_Player.ReaperConfigZip

I updated that again as there was an issue with the GUI, so just install it again.
Posted By: Pipeline Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing - 11/13/19 10:22 PM
I repacked this with reaper save configuration and tried it on a clean install of Windows 10 and everything seems to work fine now. I was using Windows zip to pack it but it was not updating the files.
Right click Save Link/Target As
ReaTrak_Region_Chord_Player2.0.ReaperConfigZip
Posted By: DeaconBlues09 Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing - 11/14/19 02:37 AM
Originally Posted By: Pipeline
I repacked this with reaper save configuration and tried it on a clean install of Windows 10 and everything seems to work fine now. I was using Windows zip to pack it but it was not updating the files.
Right click Save Link/Target As
ReaTrak_Region_Chord_Player2.0.ReaperConfigZip


Save as what? And what do you mean install? Is this an executable? Should I extract this before dragging it elsewhere?
Posted By: Pipeline Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing - 11/14/19 03:51 AM
Reaper > Options > Preferences > General > Import Configuration
ReaTrak_xxx.ReaperConfigZip
Posted By: DeaconBlues09 Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing - 11/14/19 04:04 AM
Do I have to delete any old stuff first?
Posted By: DeaconBlues09 Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing - 11/14/19 04:16 AM
Originally Posted By: DeaconBlues09
Do I have to delete any old stuff first?


Never mind. GUIs 1 and 2 are working fine, and the BiaB chord plugin is running as smooth as you please!

One thing though, (and this was my second favorite feature...) when I try to run the MIDI Chord Track it give me this error message.


ReaTrak create midi chords from region chord name.lua:406: bad argument #1 to 'GetActiveTake' (MediaItem expected)
Posted By: DeaconBlues09 Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing - 11/14/19 04:19 AM
Oh, and I just noticed that the chord track and regions are misaligned with the audio (this was not an issue yesterday)

Attached picture Alignment.PNG
Posted By: Pipeline Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing - 11/14/19 04:22 AM
Originally Posted By: DeaconBlues09
..GUIs 1 and 2 are working fine, and the BiaB chord plugin is running as smooth as you please!...


WOO HOO !

have you got a chord track :

Attached picture midi_chord-track-from-region-chord-name.gif
Posted By: DeaconBlues09 Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing - 11/14/19 04:23 AM
Update: MIDI chord track is working.

I realize what my mistake was (in case it may help anyone else...) Basically I tried running the script after I generated and dragged the track in, but before I ran the BiaB chord script. Once I ran the latter, the former wormed fine!
Posted By: DeaconBlues09 Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing - 11/14/19 04:25 AM
And now everything is aligned for some reason!!!!

I have no idea what I did but we have liftoff!!!

What's next vis a vis the whole arranger MIDI keyboard thing?

Edit: Celebrated to soon. The MIDI chord track is aligned with the regions, but the audio still is not :-(



Posted By: Pipeline Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing - 11/14/19 04:27 AM
You don't have a count-in so the track should start at the blue G as the pink is 2 bar count-in
Posted By: DeaconBlues09 Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing - 11/14/19 04:31 AM
Originally Posted By: Pipeline
You don't have a count-in so the track should start at the blue G as the pink is 2 bar count-in


Ah yes, forget to change the 1 to -1 in project settings.

You're a straight up genius, Pipeline!

BTW, I'm messing around with all the functions in the docker (which, I must admit, is a bit cluttered and hard to locate specific functions in...), and I'm trying to figure out how the holds/shots/rests would work given that the tracks are already generated and sitting as audio tracks w/in the DAW.
Posted By: DeaconBlues09 Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing - 11/14/19 04:36 AM
Also, the GUIs' functionalities are absolutely stunning. STUNNING!

I can see how they are incredibly useful in the context of MIDI, and with recording or live playing/snapping and quantizing scales to chords etc. but are they meant to integrate with RTs/RTs due to the reasons I mentioned in my previous post?
Posted By: Pipeline Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing - 11/14/19 04:37 AM
In the GUI the section functions are sorted a bit better.
the Holds/Shots are for
https://www.reatrak.com/downloads/test_files/
you just select the bars when you want to generate them,
"Choose Instrument" from ReaTrak Instruments folder or ReaTrak Drums folder,
"ReaTrak Selection"
Posted By: DeaconBlues09 Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing - 11/14/19 04:40 AM
Next note: when I try and click chords on the circle of fifths utility, instead of entering a chord it simply cycles the play-head between region start times.
Posted By: DeaconBlues09 Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing - 11/14/19 04:42 AM
Originally Posted By: Pipeline
In the GUI the section functions are sorted a bit better.
the Holds/Shots are for
https://www.reatrak.com/downloads/test_files/
you just select the bars when you want to generate them,
"Choose Instrument" from ReaTrak Instruments folder or ReaTrak Drums folder,
"ReaTrak Selection"


Ah I see, that's gonna be a hard pass from me, lol.

I'd rather just generate a selection of bars within the BiaB VST, and splice/insert align them wherever needed. I'm guessing that was something with much more utility prior to the 2019 release w/ the plugin. Am I understanding that right?
Posted By: Pipeline Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing - 11/14/19 04:44 AM
LOL that get's me every time
right mouse button next chord region
middle mouse button enter chord
left mouse button previous chord region

to add new chord in a region set the cursor there and hit the middle mouse button.
Posted By: DeaconBlues09 Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing - 11/14/19 04:47 AM
Originally Posted By: Pipeline
LOL that get's me every time
right mouse button next chord region
middle mouse button enter chord
left mouse button previous chord region

to add new chord in a region set the cursor there and hit the middle mouse button.


Yup. That did it grin
Posted By: Pipeline Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing - 11/14/19 04:49 AM
Originally Posted By: DeaconBlues09
.. I'm guessing that was something with much more utility prior to the 2019 release w/ the plugin. Am I understanding that right?


That was made before the plugin, basically for usertracks so you can have more control over them than in Biab, as you get holds/shots, midi, audio and video, you then import into Biab.
Posted By: DeaconBlues09 Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing - 11/14/19 04:50 AM
BTW, I looked into the chord picker utility this morning to see if I could get it to run within the BiaB VST, and I couldn't even install it properly with the latest attached files in your linked post.

Anything new with that?

Editing to add (I love how the utility is integrated into the GUI, but that's post BiaB chord generation. I'm asking specifically about running it w/in the BiaB plugin.
Posted By: Pipeline Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing - 11/14/19 04:54 AM
What one are you trying to use ? was it the Compact 768 version or the Reaper Biab Plugin version ?
Posted By: Pipeline Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing - 11/14/19 05:02 AM
Here's the Reaper Biab Plugin Chord Picker:
https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=505875#Post505875
you should be able to put it in the Biab Chord Picker install location then you will get the background pic.
Posted By: DeaconBlues09 Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing - 11/14/19 05:04 AM
Originally Posted By: Pipeline
What one are you trying to use ? was it the Compact 768 version or the Reaper Biab Plugin version ?


Both. Something went wrong after the install. Don't remember what the error message was.

In any event, I have some stuff to do now (including recording and posting my next video, hopefully) so I'll have to revisit this later (as well as the playalong function that launched this whole thread!)

Thanks again for everything Pipeline!
Posted By: DeaconBlues09 Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing - 11/14/19 05:10 AM
Originally Posted By: Pipeline
Here's the Reaper Biab Plugin Chord Picker:
https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=505875#Post505875
you should be able to put it in the Biab Chord Picker install location then you will get the background pic.


Ah, that's very helpful as I installed what was included in the link provided in our latest post linked in your profile signature. You may want to update that ;-)

Later Pipeline.
Posted By: Pipeline Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing - 11/14/19 05:12 AM
I just unzipped the Reaper picker
BiabVST Chord Picker Reaper x64.exe
to C:\Program Files\Biab Chord Picker Tool



Attached File
Reaper-Chord-Picker.png  (134 downloads)
Posted By: Pipeline Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing - 11/14/19 05:25 AM
Updated:

For those new to Reaper this is an easier way to install/update ReaTrak.
To Show Reaper Resource Path
Options > Show REAPER Resource Path in finder/explorer

1. Reaper > Options > Preferences > General > Export Configuration check all boxes and Save as backup configuration !!!!

2. Reaper > Options > Preferences > General > Import Configuration ReaTrak_xxx.ReaperConfigZip (you can copy it to REAPER\Configurations folder first)

3. Reaper > Actions > Show Action List > Section> Main
Import > REAPER\KeyMaps\ReaTrak Scripts.ReaperKeyMap

4. Reaper > Actions > Show Action List > Section> Main
Import > REAPER\KeyMaps\ReaReaTrak Custom Actions Required (Main).ReaperKeyMap

5. Reaper > Actions > Show Action List > Section> Midi Editor
Import > REAPER\KeyMaps\ReaTrak MIDI Editor.ReaperKeyMap

6. Reaper > View > Toolbar Docker add or change toolbar from REAPER\MenuSets
right click a toolbar tab > Open toolbar > 14,15 or 16
right click the opened toolbar tab > Customize
in the drop down top left select the associated toolbar 14,15 or 16
at the bottom right Import >
ReaTrak color icons toolbar 14 medium.ReaperMenu
ReaTrak color icons toolbar 15 small.ReaperMenu
ReaTrak color icons toolbar 16.ReaperMenu

7. Make sure you have SWS Extensions installed.
Posted By: DeaconBlues09 Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing - 11/14/19 07:42 AM
Originally Posted By: Pipeline
I just unzipped the Reaper picker
BiabVST Chord Picker Reaper x64.exe
to C:\Program Files\Biab Chord Picker Tool



Works awesome!!!

Hey, as an aside, I've spent over 5 hours trying to record a 1/2 video on separating drum layers from Realdrums and rendering them into individual stems using Regroover Essential by feeding sending a MIDI signal (track 1) into an empty track hosting the Regroover plugin VST (track 2) and then recording the audio output into track 3 as a receive.

I also think it would be awesome to inspire folks here by making a quick video demonstrating how I can get pumping trance chords, arppegiated lead sounds, and bowel shaking dubstep bass wobbles, and EDM drum loops (all generated on a single MIDI track rendered via the BiaB Plugin Chords > MIDI chord track scripts!) to play along with, say, a jazzy sax solo and mellow piano background layered with some fusion type drums supplied by BiaB.

AFAIK, this (the MIDI part) is impossible with BiaB when you entered a chord with more than 3, MAYBE 4 tones. The closest I could get is with the Held piano MIDI, but even with that, it was a nightmare extending out empty spaces, and adding notes etc... When you want your MIDI to 'jam' subdivided chord patterns, run bass sequences, and Rompler drum loops (a la Xpand2, and Kontakt's Urban Beats), the held piano styles were virtually useless, as a single gap in the MIDI line would through the whole production off course....

Now back to the point; basically all my sends and receives get messed up and refuse to record output when I use my microphone headset to record the video. Furthermore, I get ambient noise bleeding through into the armed/record output track. I know this probably has a relatively simple fix "under the hood," but I don't feel confident enough to start messing around with the whole input/output routing matrix stuff because every-time I try, I end up making the whole situation even worse.

Is it possible to simply prevent Reaper from recognizing my mic in the first place? I'm thinking something I could set up under the Device Manager itself, so that my recording software will pick up the mic and all sounds coming from my PC, but Repear will only "hear" what's happening in Reaper is if I didn't have a mic plugged in at all.

Thanks in advance!

Posted By: Pipeline Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing - 11/14/19 08:37 AM
I'm half asleep now but I will give some info now and look at it better in the morning.
Active Presenter is free and will record multi audio devices to multiple audio tracks that you can adjust before render.
VoiceMeeter Banana will let you have other audio devices like VB Cable, Hi-Fi Cable you can get these on the same site.
I have my Windows set to VB Cable and Reaper Set to VoiceMeeter AUX ASIO, Biab set to VoiceMeeter ASIO.
Check it out and see how you go.
Posted By: jazzmammal Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing - 11/14/19 10:26 PM
Wow, you guys are just movin right along. I wish I could jump in but it's just impossible right now. As for my power outage thanks for the good thoughts, this one turned out to be a maintenance one, it wasn't due to any fires in the area.

These outages are upsetting a whole lot of people because they wern't doing that years ago and despite news reports the fires are no worse now than they were then. The problem is the power companies have been found liable for BILLIONS because their lameassed old equipment sparks and has caused many of these fires so now they just shut off everybody's power at the drop of a hat. Sorry a bit of an off topic rant there.

Anyway, this Reaper/Biab thing is looking pretty slick.

Bob
Posted By: Pipeline Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing - 11/15/19 12:21 AM
When you're ready it should be working pretty good.
I'm just adding the play fill part so if you hit the same chord it will play a fill or you set it to auto play a fill after so many bars.
You can add a keyswitch to bring the soloist in and then fade it out.
You could get it to bring in soloist 1 or soloist 2 by having "soloist #" in the track name.

This is Active Presenter audio in:

Attached picture ActivePresenter-Audio-In.png
Posted By: DeaconBlues09 Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing - 11/15/19 03:46 AM
Wow, yet another cool utility you've turned me onto. :-)

BTW, unless I've overlooked something, there are no add9 chords in the chord picker tool. I really LOVE the sound of those chords. Any chance you'll be adding them in?

Thanks in advance!
Posted By: Pipeline Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing - 11/15/19 05:03 AM
In the action list window "Main Section"

Type: region chord player

highlight > Script: ReaTrak midi chord input to region chord player.lua
and click Edit
copy this text
if notenums == "0,4,7"

click back on the script window
ctrl+F
ctrl+V
Enter

will take you to the chords
you can see what ones are missing and let me know
or you can add the chord in
0 being the root of the chord and 4 being 4 notes up from 0, 7 being 7 notes up from 0
ctrl+S to save and re-run
Posted By: Pipeline Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing - 11/15/19 05:53 AM
Sorry I was looking at the chord player not the chord picker.
So it needs a Cadd2 (add9) button as BB uses the 2 for the 9 ?
Posted By: DeaconBlues09 Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing - 11/15/19 06:50 AM
Originally Posted By: Pipeline
Sorry I was looking at the chord player not the chord picker.
So it needs a Cadd2 (add9) button as BB uses the 2 for the 9 ?


Sorry, just saw this now.

I'm pretty sure there have been multiple threads about the add9 chord issue, and, from what I understand, it remains very much an issue :-(

I never really mentioned the matter in the context of BiaB because since the program does so poorly with most extended chords as it is, whether or not the chord was symbolically added, it probably would not generate correctly when entered--even in MIDI--so I kinda gave up on having my favorite chord play--which could be incredible in MIDI--especially when using arpeggiotars and sequence based VSTis.


Your scripts have opened up doors for me I've hardly dared dream of in the context of MIDI. The notes populate as many measures as you like, without break, given long ramp times for evolving synth patches to swell and percolate (with BaiB the most you could enter via the piano roll was a dotted whole note...and there was no ability to join notes). Also, every note in a chord is fully represented.

After setting up your scripts in Reaper, I've been connecting with the BiaB process like never before. The possibilities are endless! Thanks you so much!

Edit: a sus2 chord is not an add9 chord, and I have no idea why BaiB would advance that position...

Edit 2: Just read your previous post a little more closely, and realized I launched my rant to quickly. I didn't realize that add2 and sus2 were diff ways BaiB handled their naming conventions in this context.


Posted By: DeaconBlues09 Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing - 11/15/19 06:59 AM
Originally Posted By: Pipeline
Sorry I was looking at the chord player not the chord picker.
So it needs a Cadd2 (add9) button as BB uses the 2 for the 9 ?


Why would BaiB do this anyway? the 2 and 9 are an octave apart, and the main reason I love the add9 chord is the unique characteristic the higher note adds.

Maybe I should have followed those other threads more closely, lol. Fact is that my work volume fluctuates significantly during certain periods of the year (kinda like with CPAs when closer to tax season). So how much I'm involved in what goes in the forums at any given time is very varied...
Posted By: Pipeline Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing - 11/15/19 07:05 AM
ReaTrak has both:
Code:
  if notenums == "0,4,7,14"          then chordtype = "add9"    match_chord = 1 end
  if notenums == "0,3,7,14"          then chordtype = "madd9"   match_chord = 1 end


Cadd9


Biab changes it to

Cadd2


Code:
if notenums == "0,2,4,7"           then chordtype = "add2"    match_chord = 1 end
Posted By: Pipeline Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing - 11/20/19 07:41 AM
If you are restricted with the 255 SGU bar limit you can do it with the Biab Plugin by highlight the existing chord regions in Reaper then "Insert Bars" then "Biab Plugin Chords".
You can also use RealBand as it will also let you create lots of different endings and sections.
You can then save the chords as musicXML then drag n drop into Reaper and use the "MusicXML Chords" button.

In the pic I'm using the fill colors but at the moment it don't use the fills so say no to fill colors. I'm working on the fills at the moment so it will play them automatically or when you hit the same chord.

Full Screen


Attached File
Posted By: Pipeline Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing - 11/20/19 08:17 AM
You should be able to split your keyboard to play arranger chords/melody/keyswithches using JS MIDI Keyboard Splitter, with Xackley Zero Tricks.
So insert a track under MIDI Chord Input track,
drag the ROUTE from track 2 onto track 1 ROUTE,
enable the keyboard input from track 1 to track 2,
arm to record and record monitor ON.
You can drag another ROUTE from Track 2 to a Virtual Instrument track that will play your melody/lead sending all channels or a particular channel that is set in the Keyboard splitter.


Attached picture Reaper-Midi-keyboard-Split.png
Posted By: Pipeline Biab Live Chord Input Playing Update - 11/24/19 08:50 PM
Here's an update if you hit the same chord again it should play a fill,
see how it goes and I'll do the post fills so as you change from one section to another
it will play a fill in current section then post fill in new section.
When you get the chords "Biab Plugin Chord" choose yes to color fills.
Right click Save Target/Link As
ReaTrak midi chord input to region chord player.lua

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Posted By: Ryan_R Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing Update - 12/02/19 08:07 PM
Thanks for the great work developing and testing this guys. I'll be keen to give it a go when I get BIAB and when a tutorial setup video is available to follow along with.
Posted By: Pipeline Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing Update - 03/03/20 09:30 PM
I was just watching this video
A battle between Band in a Box and Yamaha PSR SX900
With the Region Chord Player you can play all these Biab RealTracks/Drums with your keyboard with live real time chord changes rather than the yamaha midi styles.

Posted By: Pipeline Re: Biab Live Chord Input Playing Update - 11/05/20 03:57 AM
Here's another script you can use with the Live Chord Input tool.
This will let you have different regions (chords) on another track.
You can then load the Biab Plugin on each track with a different style, key or tempo. You only need to solo the Master track in the Biab Plugin.
To get the Chords from the Biab Plugin into Reaper's regions use "Biab Plugin Chords" button in ReaTrak
to get the chords for current Plugin you to hit "Biab Plugin Chords" after you open the SGU or enter chords in the Plugin, save it then re-open it then "Biab Plugin Chords".

remove .mp4 from Marker region tracks GUI.zip.mp4 and unzip.

If you already have ReaTrak installed use "ReaTrak markers regions per track.lua" in Scripts\ReaTrak

If you don't have ReaTrak installed on Reaper use "Marker region tracks GUI.lua" if you only want the marker region script.

From here you will need to install Lokasenna GUI or via ReaPack
and run Library/Set Lokasenna_GUI v2 library path.lua

You can Import region/marker.csv by View > Region/Marker Manager

add regions or markers manually or import

select the track you want the markers/regions added to then hit the "Insert Marker Track" or "Insert Region Track"
select another track and do the same.
If you insert a new track make sure it's not in a track folder like the Regions and Markers tracks, if so just drag out.



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Hey there Pipeline and all, it's been awhile and hope you're all doing well :-)

I've been absent from these here forums for the longest time, and I know Pipeline has been putting all sorts of awesome stuff out there in the interim which I have not been keeping up with unfortunately because life's been very busy!

So basically, I've been thinking of trying to make some EDM style RTs and RDs, and wanted to follow up on this thread to see if what I want to accomplish can still be done, (or done better/quicker/more efficiently) with BiaB 2022 (with or without the VST plugin).

Basically, I want to "print" the UT template(s) into Reaper such that the notes appear in the Reaper regions, and with the MIDI notes for each chord, (perfectly quantized to start and end time with no velocity information or the like) on a track immediately below, so I can use those MIDI notes as "blocks" to arpeggiate and sequence in VSTIs to ultimately record into audio tracks...

I apologize for reviving this old thread, lol, but it delivered the exact results I'm looking for now back then, and other then wondering if I could do it in a better or quicker way now, I'm also concerned about compatibility issues what with it being Reaper 6 now and also w/ BiaB.

Thanks in advance!
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