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Posted By: ThSve Regenerate part (2023, 1003) - 12/07/22 06:27 AM
I'm experimenting with regeneratring part ((Ctrl+F8 or Alt+F8) as in the new YT-video, Boot Camp Part 1: Working with the Newest Features. . This seems to work only at the beginning of a track. If I try to regenerate a part that is not at the beginning of the track the result is always silence. See picture.
[img]https://imgur.com/ABIwOWn[/img]

Is this by design or is it an error?
Posted By: MoultiPass Re: Regenerate part (2023, 1003) - 12/07/22 07:47 AM
Work fine for me ?!?

Attached picture Capture d’écran 2022-12-07 114603.jpg
Posted By: Noel96 Re: Regenerate part (2023, 1003) - 12/07/22 08:01 AM
Hi ThSve,

As MoultiPass has shown, it's possible to do this in the audio editor. It's also possible to select the bars on the chord sheet. Then press ALT+F8 to open the generation dialogue menu.

Just check that the bars selected are correct. In my example...

1) I selected bars 31 and 32

2) The (re)generation window says my start bar is 31 (#1 on image below) and that it goes for two bars (#2 on image). This agrees with what I've selected.

3) Click on OK/ReGenerate.


The advantage of MoultiPass's approach is that it's possible to select partial bars. This is much more powerful.

Regards,
Noel

Attached picture Partial regenerate Alt+F8.JPG
Posted By: Charlie Fogle Re: Regenerate part (2023, 1003) - 12/07/22 08:23 AM
Alt+F8 also works within the Audio Editor Window and it will also allow selecting less than one bar by unchecking the Bar Based Range Box.

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Posted By: ThSve Re: Regenerate part (2023, 1003) - 12/07/22 09:07 AM
Ok. Did some more experimenting and found out that the reason why it didn't work for me is that the track was set to half-time. Can anyone else confirm this?
While testing I also got several Access violations when entering the Audio edit window.
Posted By: MikeK Re: Regenerate part (2023, 1003) - 12/07/22 11:23 AM
Originally Posted By: ThSve
Ok. Did some more experimenting and found out that the reason why it didn't work for me is that the track was set to half-time. Can anyone else confirm this?
While testing I also got several Access violations when entering the Audio edit window.


I set a song to half-time and highlighted bars 12 - 16 to regenerate a guitar solo by using ALT F8 in the chord sheet and that worked with no issues for me.
Posted By: ThSve Re: Regenerate part (2023, 1003) - 12/07/22 11:45 AM
Originally Posted By: MikeK

I set a song to half-time and highlighted bars 12 - 16 to regenerate a guitar solo by using ALT F8 in the chord sheet and that worked with no issues for me.


You say "I set the song to half-time" I don't know if that is the same as I do. It is the specific RealTrack, "Track-Timebase" that is set to "Half-Time" under track settings.

Regenerate part works OK if Track-Timebase is set to Normal.
Posted By: MikeK Re: Regenerate part (2023, 1003) - 12/07/22 11:49 AM
Originally Posted By: ThSve
Originally Posted By: MikeK

I set a song to half-time and highlighted bars 12 - 16 to regenerate a guitar solo by using ALT F8 in the chord sheet and that worked with no issues for me.


You say "I set the song to half-time" I don't know if that is the same as I do. It is the specific RealTrack, "Track-Timebase" that is set to "Half-Time" under track settings.

Regenerate part works OK if Track-Timebase is set to Normal.


What's the specific Style name?'ll try to reproduce.
Posted By: ThSve Re: Regenerate part (2023, 1003) - 12/07/22 12:04 PM
In my case, the selected style is _BREATH.STY (I tested with others so it doesn't seems to matter). The specific track I have problems with is an added soloist realtrack, 3723 Guitar, Electric, Soloist PopSoulGritSlow128Brent Sw 040. Since the song tempo is 92 BPM, and the realtrack is for 40, I set the RT time-base to half-time.

For the realtrack with the halftime time-base I can regenerate the whole track or a part if it is from the song start. If I select a part in the middle of the song either with Ctrl+F8 from the Chord Sheet or via the Regererate Part dialog (Alt+F8) the result is that the audio is deleted from that part.
Posted By: MikeK Re: Regenerate part (2023, 1003) - 12/07/22 12:30 PM
Originally Posted By: ThSve
In my case, the selected style is _BREATH.STY (I tested with others so it doesn't seems to matter). The specific track I have problems with is an added soloist realtrack, 3723 Guitar, Electric, Soloist PopSoulGritSlow128Brent Sw 040. Since the song tempo is 92 BPM, and the realtrack is for 40, I set the RT time-base to half-time.

For the realtrack with the halftime time-base I can regenerate the whole track or a part if it is from the song start. If I select a part in the middle of the song either with Ctrl+F8 from the Chord Sheet or via the Regererate Part dialog (Alt+F8) the result is that the audio is deleted from that part.



I can confirm that the audio is being erased. I've added 3723 Guitar, Electric, Soloist PopSoulGritSlow128Brent Sw 040 (assigned to Guitar 2), changed that guitar to half time, selected 4 bars starting at bar 5, ALT F8 to regenerate those bars. Upon playing, the guitar 2 solo from bar 5 through 8 was erased.

So, yes - that's a bug! I have reported this.
Posted By: ThSve Re: Regenerate part (2023, 1003) - 12/07/22 12:50 PM
Thank you for confirmation. I've made a short YouTube video showing the behavior: https://youtu.be/KaKzAHR3zX8
Posted By: MikeK Re: Regenerate part (2023, 1003) - 12/07/22 12:53 PM
Yep - that's what I am experiencing as well.
Posted By: Matt Finley Re: Regenerate part (2023, 1003) - 12/07/22 12:59 PM
That’s good you’ve reported this. Support should see this thread.

To my knowledge, this was not experienced in beta testing but I also can’t say that anyone tested it on a track with a different time base.
Posted By: ThSve Re: Regenerate part (2023, 1003) - 12/21/22 02:18 PM
Is this bug known by the developers or do I have to report it in some other way? It is not solved in 1004.
Posted By: MikeK Re: Regenerate part (2023, 1003) - 12/21/22 02:41 PM
Originally Posted By: ThSve
Is this bug known by the developers or do I have to report it in some other way? It is not solved in 1004.


Hi ThSve, I know they are aware, but not sure if it was addressed. https://dl11.pgmusic.com/support/patch/bb2023_win_update_build1005.exe <<-- I have not tested this yet. You might want to try and let us know.
Posted By: MikeK Re: Regenerate part (2023, 1003) - 12/21/22 04:24 PM
I can confirm that the audio is being erased. I've added 3723 Guitar, Electric, Soloist PopSoulGritSlow128Brent Sw 040 (assigned to Guitar 2), changed that guitar to half time, selected 2 bars starting at bar 5, ALT F8 to regenerate those bars. Upon playing, the guitar 2 solo from bar 5 and 6 were erased.


This problem is still there. I reproduced the issue using Build 1006.



Attached picture audio erase alt f8.PNG
Posted By: MikeK Re: Regenerate part (2023, 1003) - 12/22/22 10:40 AM
Sorry for the "bump", but I don't want this issue to drown to the bottom as this was reported as early as build 1003.
Posted By: ThSve Re: Regenerate part (2023, 1003) - 03/17/23 01:59 AM
This what not fixed in the latest update 1010! Is it even on the todo list?
Posted By: Andrew - PG Music Re: Regenerate part (2023, 1003) - 03/17/23 09:41 PM
Yes, the regenerate / half-time RT bug is on the todo list.
Posted By: ThSve Re: Regenerate part (2023, 1003) - 06/30/23 08:47 AM
Still not fixed in 1013 frown
Posted By: ThSve Re: Regenerate part (2023, 1003) - 12/05/23 06:48 PM
Is this fixed in 2024 release?
Posted By: Rob Helms Re: Regenerate part (2023, 1003) - 12/05/23 08:10 PM
In 2024 in the tracks view you can highlight an area in the track wave file and hit control F8 and it regens that section
Posted By: ThSve Re: Regenerate part (2023, 1003) - 12/05/23 08:59 PM
So, the bug in 2023 is fixed and regeneration does work also if the real track is set to half time? This was never solved in 2023!
Posted By: Rob Helms Re: Regenerate part (2023, 1003) - 12/05/23 09:04 PM
ThSve, i have never tried with half time, let me experiment.

I could not make this work, bt i really don't know what you were trying to do. Could you detail the steps you took and i will dig deeper.
Posted By: Cerio Re: Regenerate part (2023, 1003) - 12/05/23 09:57 PM
Originally Posted by ThSve
So, the bug in 2023 is fixed and regeneration does work also if the real track is set to half time? This was never solved in 2023!

I've just tried to regenerate a RT in half time and no, unfortunately the feature still doesn't work properly (the audio section gets erased instead of regenerated)
Posted By: ThSve Re: Regenerate part (2023, 1003) - 12/06/23 04:36 AM
@Rob Helms
This behavior is described by me and several others in earlier posts in this thread. It is also confirmed as a bug by PG. I even made a YT video that showed exactly whats happening
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