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Posted By: Luvs3rds The PG Blues Trio - 05/01/09 06:24 AM
Hi all;
I did this one in BIAB, then went into RB and added effects. I was tired tonight, so I used all realtracks. Hope you don't mind.

It's called "Powder Blue". No offense to all you sax players out there, Just didn't think you had time to come over. Although the coffee is always on!

Regards,
Gene

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Posted By: Ryszard Re: The PG Blues Trio - 05/01/09 06:56 AM
Great fun! Nice raunchy tone to the guitar. Sax kinda sounded like it was in the next room, or at least way over on the other side of the stage, but I wouldn't know how to fix it so what am I talking about. Get some rest and do whatever else you think needs doing. Love to hear the result.

R.
Posted By: DrDUBose Re: The PG Blues Trio - 05/01/09 01:05 PM
Who's the blond bomb? I'm effectively distracted... There are drums in this thing somewhere, right? Lead sounds fine. Nice work. I think the rhythm guitar lost the groove into the guit. solo section, going into the IV (I - IV - V) chord change.... anyway... lovely lady... nice axe work and sax work is the best....
Posted By: Luvs3rds Re: The PG Blues Trio - 05/01/09 02:21 PM
Ryz,
Too much reverb is all. Went to crazy with the effects.

Dr.

My google desktop has a new girl come up every time I load.Just used her because she was wearing blue..(Ya right)
I will fix the drums later today.

Gene
Posted By: Mac Re: The PG Blues Trio - 05/01/09 06:10 PM
This one needs fleshed out and a good vocal added to it IMO.


--Mac
Posted By: Kemmrich Re: The PG Blues Trio - 05/02/09 01:14 AM
That's definitely the largest trio I've ever heard before! What real track was that guitar part starting at 0:53? Sounded cool. There were some rough spots in there, but it was a cool jam. I read the thread Poppa was talking about and I think Levi would have issues with this one.

Kevin
Posted By: Luvs3rds Re: The PG Blues Trio - 05/02/09 02:51 AM
Thank you Mac. I always value your input.

Kevin;
That is old #583, blues guitar roadhouse. The uncontrollable one I call it. One generation it will be tasty, and the next time, it is , dittily, dittily, dittily, dittily, ditilly, for like 4 solid measures. Annoying, for sure. Which brings me to a question I was going to ask any way. . .

1. Is there a way to edit realtracks to our own preferences? Many are great, except for this annoying riff out of nowwhere, that really ruins it, unless if used for only, say, 2 beats of one measure. There are a couple of riffs in 2 or 3 guitar realtrack solos, that if I could edit them, I could use them for many, many songs.

Thank you all;
Gene
Posted By: Ian Fraser Re: The PG Blues Trio - 05/02/09 06:23 PM
Quote:

1. Is there a way to edit realtracks to our own preferences?



I don't work that much with RealTs & Ds but if you render them to waves, then you can perform
major surgery on the wav, much as working with your voice. If there's a two bar section you hate
then find a two bar section you like, delete copy paste. Yep it would slow the production process
but if it works . . . .

Cheers
Posted By: Luvs3rds Re: The PG Blues Trio - 05/06/09 11:05 PM
Thanks Ian;
I might try that. I try to do as much as I can in BIAB. I do like Real Band. It has a lot of good features. I'm just not real good yet at copying and pasting wav's. I have a bit of trouble with syncing up at the right place. Maybe there is a snap feature to put it right on the mark. I will check.

Gene
Posted By: Poppa Willis Re: The PG Blues Trio - 05/07/09 12:57 AM
Don't be afraid to add a realtrack several times on a track like that. I have done up to four just to get a part I like. Sometimes the play the same and then surprise you. I edit heavily in Reaper or n-Track too.
Are you doing everything in RB or BIAB? no outside DAW?

Snap 'em to a grid in the same BPM you programmed them in and learn to edit. They're all bits and pieces anyway. You might as well learn to get the bits and pieces you want!
Posted By: Luvs3rds Re: The PG Blues Trio - 05/07/09 01:10 AM
Hi Poppa;

I have not quite figured out what everyone means when they say "DAW". But I usually do as much as I can in BIAB. I like to dial it in using F5 bar edits. However I found out RB does not recognize these. So I go as far as I can, export to WAV, and then into RB for final mixdown. I have imported into RB as individual tracks, which I prefer, as it gives me more control over the individual tracks. And I can select sections of a track I don't like and just recompose that section. I have tried removing sections of tracks in RB to achieve the same thing as the F5 in BB, but found it tedious. If RB would recognize bar edit muting of instruments, I could dial these songs in really fast. I suppose I could just do it all in RB also. I think I could put the chords and all in. I just got this thing about picking all my instruments that I want, and then telling BB where to have them come in. There may be a better way to do that?

Gene
Posted By: Poppa Willis Re: The PG Blues Trio - 05/07/09 04:03 AM
Gene - You're probably more knowledgeable in BIAB than I am. What I do is start in BIAB - write all my breaks etc then go to RB with the file. I add all my instruments at once for the entire song. Sometimes even several or two of each. Then I "save all tracks" to either 'wav all' or 'wav and mid' in the audio drop down menu. It usually sounds way over done but being an editing junkie from way back, I like to have more to work with than I will ever use. I'm basically gathering building material at this stage, with a general idea of where I'm going with the tune.

I then import all the files into a new song project in say, Reaper - which a part of my Digital Audio Workstation or DAW as is RealBand and BIB, along with my hardware.

Once in Reaper I can edit at will - choosing, moving, combining parts, eliminating parts, adding EQ and effects etc. This all can be done in Realband but I honestly have not had time to learn the software so I use it basically as a wav generator into Reaper, which I am very familiar with. I can sometimes find notes from an entirely different section to cover a sustain lets say for a break on an instrument. I have even cut and pasted single notes to do this. It's easy in my editing software and can add a lot. I do hope to learn Realband and BIAB, but it's so good at doing what I ask from it now...........

So that's it on my DAW. Make sense?
Posted By: Luvs3rds Re: The PG Blues Trio - 05/07/09 02:28 PM
PW;
Yep, makes sense. You do it the exact way that I am resisting. LOL. Guess it's time for me to learn some new ways. Alot more creative control for sure.

Gene
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