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Posted By: Stonker RealBand crashing every few minutes - 01/14/21 07:48 PM
Can somebody help please? I think it is producing crash logs
Posted By: rharv Re: RealBand crashing every few minutes - 01/14/21 08:11 PM
First thing I'd check is the Flash message log, see image below.
Posting it here *may* help.

What are you doing when it crashes? Recording, generating, .. (?) The more detail the better.

Attached picture FlashMsgs.jpg
Posted By: Stonker Re: RealBand crashing every few minutes - 01/14/21 08:29 PM
I was doing various things, sometimes recording, sometime just pressed play. Another time putting points on the green line to vary the volume of a track


Here is the log:

- Your video is finished rendering! Click on [Show Video File] to see the file in Windows Explorer. [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 14/01/2021 23:22:23]
- AVIM audio rendered... [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 14/01/2021 23:22:02]
- Rendering Audio... [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 14/01/2021 23:21:49]
- Can't save a song with audio during playback! [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 14/01/2021 23:19:40]
- Can't save a song with audio during playback! [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 14/01/2021 23:14:53]
- BBW2 init time in ms: 909 [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 14/01/2021 22:52:56]
- Initializing accompaniment functions... please wait... [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 14/01/2021 22:52:56]
**** New Session started at : 14/01/2021 22:52:56 [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit)]
**** New Session started at : 14/01/2021 19:35:50 [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit)]
- BBW2 init time in ms: 1663 [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 14/01/2021 17:37:46]
- Initializing accompaniment functions... please wait... [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 14/01/2021 17:37:45]
**** New Session started at : 14/01/2021 17:37:45 [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit)]
- Audio default device has changed. [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 13/01/2021 22:44:58]
- Audio default device has changed. [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 13/01/2021 19:40:47]
- Stream is stopped [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 13/01/2021 19:40:47]
**** New Session started at : 13/01/2021 19:40:47 [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit)]
- Can't save a song with audio during playback! [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 13/01/2021 15:12:45]
- Can't save a song with audio during playback! [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 13/01/2021 15:12:45]
- Can't save a song with audio during playback! [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 13/01/2021 15:12:44]
- Can't save a song with audio during playback! [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 13/01/2021 15:12:44]
- Can't save a song with audio during playback! [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 13/01/2021 15:12:44]
- Audio default device has changed. [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 13/01/2021 15:09:00]
- Audio default device has changed. [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 13/01/2021 14:43:45]
- Audio default device has changed. [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 13/01/2021 14:34:43]
- Stream is stopped [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 13/01/2021 14:34:43]
- Audio default device has changed. [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 13/01/2021 14:18:43]
- Audio default device has changed. [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 13/01/2021 14:10:06]
- Stream is stopped [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 13/01/2021 14:10:06]
- Audio default device has changed. [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 13/01/2021 13:58:18]
- Audio default device has changed. [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 13/01/2021 13:55:56]
- Stream is stopped [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 13/01/2021 13:55:55]
- BBW2 init time in ms: 1176 [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 13/01/2021 11:52:43]
- Initializing accompaniment functions... please wait... [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 13/01/2021 11:52:42]
**** New Session started at : 13/01/2021 11:52:42 [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit)]
- MP3conversion success [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 12/01/2021 18:38:12]
- Your video is finished rendering! Click on [Show Video File] to see the file in Windows Explorer. [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 12/01/2021 17:23:13]
- AVIM audio rendered... [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 12/01/2021 17:22:45]
- Rendering Audio... [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 12/01/2021 17:22:41]
- Your video is finished rendering! Click on [Show Video File] to see the file in Windows Explorer. [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 12/01/2021 17:10:06]
- Bitmap Generation Complete. [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 12/01/2021 17:09:42]
- Generating Bitmaps... [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 12/01/2021 17:09:40]
- AVIM audio rendered... [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 12/01/2021 17:09:40]
- Rendering Audio... [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 12/01/2021 17:09:24]
- Your video is finished rendering! Click on this message to see the file in Windows Explorer. [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 12/01/2021 17:06:51]
- Bitmap Generation Complete. [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 12/01/2021 17:06:27]
- Generating Bitmaps... [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 12/01/2021 17:06:25]
- AVIM audio rendered... [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 12/01/2021 17:06:21]
- Rendering Audio... [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 12/01/2021 17:05:57]
- BBW2 init time in ms: 1818 [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 12/01/2021 17:04:34]
- Initializing accompaniment functions... please wait... [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 12/01/2021 17:04:33]
**** New Session started at : 12/01/2021 17:04:33 [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit)]
- Acid info successfully written to C:\Users\stpov\Music\YouTube\Tears In Heaven5.WAV [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 12/01/2021 13:14:06]
- File not Saved! [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 12/01/2021 12:10:07]
- BBW2 init time in ms: 1793 [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 12/01/2021 11:46:36]
- Initializing accompaniment functions... please wait... [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 12/01/2021 11:46:34]
- Converting file... [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 12/01/2021 11:46:00]
**** New Session started at : 12/01/2021 11:46:00 [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit)]
**** New Session started at : 12/01/2021 01:53:16 [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit)]
- BBW2 init time in ms: 1650 [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 11/01/2021 18:40:40]
- Initializing accompaniment functions... please wait... [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 11/01/2021 18:40:39]
**** New Session started at : 11/01/2021 18:40:39 [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit)]
- BBW2 init time in ms: 1652 [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 11/01/2021 18:33:23]
- Initializing accompaniment functions... please wait... [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 11/01/2021 18:33:21]
**** New Session started at : 11/01/2021 18:33:21 [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit)]
- BBW2 init time in ms: 948 [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 11/01/2021 18:26:49]
- Initializing accompaniment functions... please wait... [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 11/01/2021 18:26:48]
**** New Session started at : 11/01/2021 18:26:48 [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit)]
- Can't save a song with audio during playback! [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 11/01/2021 18:09:24]
- Can't save a song with audio during playback! [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 11/01/2021 18:09:24]
- Can't save a song with audio during playback! [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 11/01/2021 18:09:23]
- Can't save a song with audio during playback! [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 11/01/2021 18:09:23]
- Can't save a song with audio during playback! [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 11/01/2021 18:09:23]
- Can't save a song with audio during playback! [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 11/01/2021 18:09:23]
- Can't save a song with audio during playback! [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 11/01/2021 18:09:22]
- Can't save a song with audio during playback! [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 11/01/2021 18:09:18]
- Can't save a song with audio during playback! [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 11/01/2021 18:09:17]
- Can't save a song with audio during playback! [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 11/01/2021 18:09:17]
- Can't save a song with audio during playback! [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 11/01/2021 18:09:15]
- BBW2 init time in ms: 1023 [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 11/01/2021 18:04:56]
- Initializing accompaniment functions... please wait... [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 11/01/2021 18:04:55]
**** New Session started at : 11/01/2021 18:04:55 [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit)]
- MP3conversion success [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 11/01/2021 16:55:43]
- Can't delete during playback [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 11/01/2021 16:20:18]
- When the gain change dialog pops up, select click on the Fade Out radio button in the Variable Gain section on top right of dialog [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 11/01/2021 15:58:29]
- When the gain change dialog pops up, select click on the Fade Out radio button in the Variable Gain section on top right of dialog [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 11/01/2021 15:57:49]
- When the gain change dialog pops up, select click on the Fade Out radio button in the Variable Gain section on top right of dialog [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 11/01/2021 15:56:52]
- When the gain change dialog pops up, select click on the Fade Out radio button in the Variable Gain section on top right of dialog [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 11/01/2021 15:56:35]
- When the gain change dialog pops up, select click on the Fade Out radio button in the Variable Gain section on top right of dialog [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 11/01/2021 15:56:19]
- When the gain change dialog pops up, select click on the Fade Out radio button in the Variable Gain section on top right of dialog [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 11/01/2021 15:56:03]
- When the gain change dialog pops up, select click on the Fade Out radio button in the Variable Gain section on top right of dialog [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 11/01/2021 15:55:46]
- When the gain change dialog pops up, select click on the Fade Out radio button in the Variable Gain section on top right of dialog [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 11/01/2021 15:55:20]
- When the gain change dialog pops up, select click on the Fade Out radio button in the Variable Gain section on top right of dialog [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 11/01/2021 15:54:49]
**** New Session started at : 11/01/2021 15:54:49 [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit)]
- Audio default device has changed. Switching to new device may not occur automatically when using MME or ASIO drivers [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 11/01/2021 13:39:49]
- Audio default device has changed. Switching to new device may not occur automatically when using MME or ASIO drivers [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 11/01/2021 13:01:39]
- Audio default device has changed. Switching to new device may not occur automatically when using MME or ASIO drivers [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 11/01/2021 12:33:41]
- Audio default device has changed. Switching to new device may not occur automatically when using MME or ASIO drivers [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 11/01/2021 12:33:09]
- Audio default device has changed. Switching to new device may not occur automatically when using MME or ASIO drivers [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 11/01/2021 11:41:27]
- Audio default device has changed. Switching to new device may not occur automatically when using MME or ASIO drivers [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 11/01/2021 11:40:52]
- resume from suspend [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 11/01/2021 11:40:49]
- Audio default device has changed. Switching to new device may not occur automatically when using MME or ASIO drivers [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 11/01/2021 01:34:31]
- suspend about to occur [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 11/01/2021 01:34:30]
- Audio default device has changed. Switching to new device may not occur automatically when using MME or ASIO drivers [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 10/01/2021 23:30:30]
- MP3conversion success [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 10/01/2021 22:39:00]
- Audio default device has changed. Switching to new device may not occur automatically when using MME or ASIO drivers [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 10/01/2021 22:29:35]
- Can't delete during playback [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 10/01/2021 21:30:37]
- Can't delete during playback [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 10/01/2021 21:05:26]
- When the gain change dialog pops up, select click on the Fade Out radio button in the Variable Gain section on top right of dialog [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 10/01/2021 16:30:42]
**** New Session started at : 10/01/2021 16:30:42 [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit)]
**** New Session started at : 10/01/2021 14:47:21 [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit)]
**** New Session started at : 10/01/2021 14:45:08 [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit)]
- resume from suspend [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 10/01/2021 11:51:42]
- suspend about to occur [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 10/01/2021 03:09:46]
- Can't delete during playback [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 09/01/2021 20:39:39]
- Can't delete during playback [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 09/01/2021 20:38:27]
**** New Session started at : 09/01/2021 20:38:27 [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit)]
- resume from suspend [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 09/01/2021 13:02:19]
- suspend about to occur [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 08/01/2021 23:32:00]
**** New Session started at : 08/01/2021 23:32:00 [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit)]
- Header Not Successfully Prepared [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 08/01/2021 22:09:18]
**** New Session started at : 08/01/2021 22:09:18 [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit)]
**** New Session started at : 08/01/2021 22:06:20 [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit)]
- Audio default device has changed. Switching to new device may not occur automatically when using MME or ASIO drivers [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 08/01/2021 21:56:27]
- Header Not Successfully Prepared [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 08/01/2021 21:56:27]
- Report added to C:\RealBand\RBERROR.LOG [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 08/01/2021 21:56:22]
- Audio default device has changed. Switching to new device may not occur automatically when using MME or ASIO drivers [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 08/01/2021 21:56:05]
- Audio default device has changed. Switching to new device may not occur automatically when using MME or ASIO drivers [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 08/01/2021 21:35:33]
- Audio default device has changed. Switching to new device may not occur automatically when using MME or ASIO drivers [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 08/01/2021 21:30:50]
- Audio default device has changed. Switching to new device may not occur automatically when using MME or ASIO drivers [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 08/01/2021 21:30:34]
- Audio default device has changed. Switching to new device may not occur automatically when using MME or ASIO drivers [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 08/01/2021 21:26:52]
- Audio default device has changed. Switching to new device may not occur automatically when using MME or ASIO drivers [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 08/01/2021 21:22:16]
- Audio default device has changed. Switching to new device may not occur automatically when using MME or ASIO drivers [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 08/01/2021 21:21:56]
- BBW2 init time in ms: 1152 [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 08/01/2021 20:27:26]
- Initializing accompaniment functions... please wait... [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 08/01/2021 20:27:25]
**** New Session started at : 08/01/2021 20:27:25 [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit)]
**** New Session started at : 08/01/2021 19:18:30 [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit)]
Posted By: rharv Re: RealBand crashing every few minutes - 01/14/21 08:55 PM
First line of your log shows you are rending to video (?)
was this intended?

"- Your video is finished rendering! Click on [Show Video File] to see the file in Windows Explorer. [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 14/01/2021 23:22:23]"

FWIW it appears you are on build one (from the message 2021.1.0) .. have you tried updating it?

Also -
Saving a song during playback would surely cause an issue (also found in your log file)
"
- Can't save a song with audio during playback! [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 14/01/2021 23:19:40]
- Can't save a song with audio during playback! [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 14/01/2021 23:14:53]"

.. and
"- Can't delete during playback [RealBand 2021.1.0 (64-bit), 10/01/2021 21:30:37]"

Your workflow may need some adjustment. The above hard write processes cannot occur while the song is playing. It can't write to the file while it is still playing it.
Posted By: Stonker Re: RealBand crashing every few minutes - 01/14/21 09:48 PM
Yes, I learnt those lessons but when it crashed generally I wasn't doing those things. I also found found that after recording, when I clicked on 'keep take' it didn't. I am a newbie though. :-)

Yes, I did get through what I was doing and rendered a video
stonker.
if your new to realband , several aspects are important.
1. read all faq's, manuals, and vids on the pg site here.
have you done so ?
2. in order for people to help you , its important to post as many details as possible on your RB settings and sound devices.
post a pic of RB audio preferences/settings and win recording/playback settings.
(please dont say on board sound. if you ARE useing on board sound i recommend you get a proper asio sound interface. see a thread in this RB forum on working asio sound devices people are useing.)
where people often trip up is not setting up properly for recording work .
3.please explain in detail what your trying to do.

the above will help people to help you.

best.
muso.

ps rharv. the number of people you help each year/your expertise should be rewarded by pg with free upgrades
forever. seriously. kudos to you.
Posted By: Stonker Re: RealBand crashing every few minutes - 01/15/21 08:44 PM
I've read a lot, watched loads of videos etc but am also trying to produce something. i will let you know my settings tomorrow.

Thanks
Posted By: rharv Re: RealBand crashing every few minutes - 01/15/21 09:46 PM
Originally Posted By: justanoldmuso


ps rharv. the number of people you help each year/your expertise should be rewarded by pg with free upgrades
forever. seriously. kudos to you.


FWIW, they have been more than generous to me
Just wanted to acknowledge that
They are good people

rharv.
you highly deserve it.
yes your right. whenever ive dealt with anyone at pg on the odd occasion over the years, nice people.
btw so far in my testing 2020 32 bit realband seems to work well with my new audient evo.
more to test out tho/early days. i looked at the nice multi input focusrite interfaces on the higher end, but , due to pace of tech change, i thought i would give cheap evo a chance. so far so good. if it fails i can just use the mic pre's.
no fuss , no muss. nice mic pre's. what i wasnt aware of , which kinda blows me away, and why they would hide it in the manual, is, internal evo dsp rtl seems to be 0.59ms at 44.1.
at 96khz, 0.28 ms. and quoting daw playback latency as low as 2.5ms at 44.1. and 2ms at 96khz.
in reaper i'm getting 4/5ms latency overall , and i could get lower. more testing to do tho'.
i guess it depends how powerfull a pc one has.
i'm correct in thinking , am i not , that higher the cpu ghz the lower the rtl/latency in daw ?

ive also become interested in usb multi mic pre audio mixers. might get one yet.
gotta check more , but apparently soundcraft mixers (eg notepad good pre's i hear) have low RTL.
gonna check them out more. also there are allen n heath zed series. good pre's apparently.

ive just decided for 2021 to keep my gear lust/spending in check, as i feel we are going to see some very good new recording products at cheap prices soon.
best.
cheapy muso. lol.
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