https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Y7dIkonCfFE#!liked audio to midi conversion, good enough to create super midi? convert realtracks? session view automation & push
Push is a new instrument that solves an old problem: how to make a song from scratch. With hands-on control of melody and harmony, beats, sounds, and song structure, Push puts the fundamental elements of music making at your fingertips - and it fits in a backpack alongside your laptop.
https://www.ableton.com/of course we'll have to wait for official release and reviews to evaluate
Hah!
It starts off with a piano playing Coltrane's "Giant Steps" no less!
Rather topical around here of late...
--Mac
Unbelievable. I've listened to at least 25 different youtube vids including official factory ones showing Ableton and not one, NOT ONE was about anything remotely like real music. Here they start out with a guy playing Giant Steps on a grand piano and I'm thinking oh, maybe this is better. Yet where does the guy go with this? He shows a fantastic ability to convert his audio humming to midi, selects a crappy sounding electonic bass and then he proceeds to create a warbly dubstep "bass" or whateverthehell you call it part. We get to listen to this for a good 10 minutes before he finally grabs that Bill Evans piano part and what does he do with that? Again a very good audio to midi conversion this time of a full two handed chord, impressive but he changes it to a guitar and then mangles it to another totally crap sound he gleefully describes as dubsteppy and the crowd ohhs and ahhs. He takes a beats clip of some kid swooshing and clicking into a mic and turns it into a real drum part. Very impressive, he then sets up a nice sounding acoustic drum kit. Again impressive but then he says I don't want that lets try this and he puts in a totally s***** electronic drum kit and the audience applauds and a few cheer. Acoustic is like garlic to a vampire, it's all electronic crap sounds they want to hear.
I feel like a friggin dinosaur. I think this is a program I and some of us could use but man, I've got to wade knee deep through donky crap to hear a few tiny snippets of something good. I love when he says we now have the beginnings of a real song. A real song? Of what?
Then, he gets to their new controller, Push. Again to me it looks fantastic, I can see lots of possibilities here yet when Gerhard introduces their product manager and describes him as the only virtuoso at this time with it the guy plays total crap and I'm left with guessing what I could do with it. The audience cheers again. I think some of us can do a lot with it but still, not even a glimmer of anything real? Throw us old timers a small bone here. Obviously, they don't care what we think. It's all dubstep, techno, weirdo whatever.
1.7 million users. Over 90 workshops all over the place, including some legitimate music schools. What have I been saying in some recent posts?
The good news here is this program is amazing and I think Melodyne has a big problem.
I'm probably going to buy it.
Bob
I agree Mike I think this program has tons of potential for what we do. Notice that Bill Evans part around the middle of the video, it's a whole two handed phrase and the program seems to convert that audio to midi instantly and accurately. I saw that and went wow. I was expecting him to actually do something nice with it but no, he chops is down to one chord, inverts it, changes the structure, changes the instrument to guitar then applies weird effects to it. I hated what he did but it sure showed what the program can do.
It just kills me to see that this is what a lot of the kids are doing now including apparantly music majors. No melody, no structure, no changes and Gerhard even said right out that you don't have to be a musician to create music any more. I think the key point is he didn't define "music".
Bob