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Posted By: rharv Winter 2014 .. uggh - 01/25/14 01:58 AM
This may be my first Shoutbox inspired thread.
Danny mentioned freezing highways, Sundance mentioned snow on the bayou (yes it would make a good song title).
I feel for you southerners. But ..

Up here in the winter wonderland (Michigan) it has been a pretty brutal winter. Lows well below zero for weeks. More coming.
Too cold to salt the roads (won't melt and if it does it freezes shortly after so worse off in the long run), and the winds are causing snow drifting over the roads anyway .. maybe I'm getting old, but I don't remember this cold of a winter in my life. Actually had trouble getting home tonight.

I ain't sayin' the sky is falling, but this ain't normal! Normally it's between 15-30 degrees this time of year, now every morning before I get in the car I see -6, -14-, - eleventy-seven ..


Posted By: MarioD Re: Winter 2014 .. uggh - 01/25/14 02:28 AM
You ain’t the only one! We are running about 15-20°F below normal here also. We normally run about 25-35°F at this time of the year but now we are –2 to 15°F with wind chill factors down to –25°F. This ain’t normal!

We will have a heat wave tomorrow, up to 25°F then back to below 0-15°F for all of next week.

Adding to my misery level is the fact that my brand new snow blower, used on 6 times, has been in the shop for 2 weeks waiting for a new electric starter. So the wife and I have been shoveling snow every day this week. We are too old for this crap!
Posted By: Mac Re: Winter 2014 .. uggh - 01/25/14 01:39 PM



MANBEARPIG! grin
Posted By: jazzmammal Re: Winter 2014 .. uggh - 01/25/14 06:06 PM
You guys are a bunch of wusses. I lived in Calgary Alberta for 12 years and saw -46 actual temp one week. Not to say I liked it though...

I'm now back in SoCal where I grew up and lets see, it's now what...hmmm you guys don't want to know. Oh ok, at 10am it's 63 heading for a high of 79.

Maybe I'll go down to the beach in Hermosa, have lunch at Scotties while watching the girls skate by on the Strand.

Bob
Posted By: ROG Re: Winter 2014 .. uggh - 01/25/14 06:43 PM
I really need that.

How much is real estate where you live?

ROG.
Posted By: rockstar_not Re: Winter 2014 .. uggh - 01/25/14 07:16 PM
ROG, been there and done that. You should ask what it costs for a parking space. As much as a full-size flat rent in most places in the US. At least the last time I checked, that's what it was.
Posted By: rharv Re: Winter 2014 .. uggh - 01/25/14 08:01 PM
On the plus side, I just saw a bald eagle out hunting a few minutes ago .. just a few blocks from home.
Better keep the smaller dog inside for a while.

Earlier I went to Port Huron for Chilifest; there are people there having bed races, with pajamas on!
Got to enjoy it somehow I guess.

As an update, we're going to hit a balmy 19 (at 9PM) which is 10 degrees above the projected high for the rest of the week. Enough is enough!
Posted By: 90 dB Re: Winter 2014 .. uggh - 01/25/14 08:03 PM
Originally Posted By: ROG
I really need that.

How much is real estate where you live?

ROG.






Relatively inexpensive, ROG. grin



http://www.zillow.com/homes/Redondo-Beach-Ca_rb/
Posted By: Mac Re: Winter 2014 .. uggh - 01/25/14 08:04 PM
Did somebody say, "CHILI?


Thanks, don't mind if I do.


I brought my own spoon...
Posted By: Lloyd S Re: Winter 2014 .. uggh - 01/25/14 08:39 PM

I grew up in Southern Alberta and moved to Calgary after high school in 1965.

Been there pretty much ever since, putting up with cold winters. But the very day I retired in Nov 2011, I hopped in the motorhome and headed south.

I now stay someplace warm in the winter. Life's too short to put up with cold weather if you don't like winter sports.

LLOYD S
Posted By: MarioD Re: Winter 2014 .. uggh - 01/25/14 09:55 PM
Originally Posted By: Mac
Did somebody say, "CHILI?


Thanks, don't mind if I do.


I brought my own spoon...




Right on the money Mac.

You can’t beat a good hot bowl of chili on a cold day!

I mean hot temperature wise and spice wise!
Posted By: rharv Re: Winter 2014 .. uggh - 01/26/14 03:15 PM
Yeah, there were 30 different Chili's to try out at the fest.

I couldn't sample all of them, but I tried.
Then came home and made some more last night.
Posted By: Rob Helms Re: Winter 2014 .. uggh - 01/26/14 04:00 PM
I'm with Scott, gonna be 72 here today in Oceanside Cal. It is more expensive here, but all things are relative. Sometimes in the mornings it drops down alllllll the way to 45 degrees, but then the dreaded heat wave kicks in and it climbs to an unearthly 75 some days geez what a unforgiving winter. But you say how are the summers? Man oh man the heat and humidity are killers here, Why just this last summer we had a whole week where the temps soared into the 90s!!! Top that off with having to put up with a typical day around 80 degrees. Man i am not sure how much of this i can take!
Posted By: Pat Marr Re: Winter 2014 .. uggh - 01/26/14 05:40 PM
About 30 years ago I moved from Pennsylvania (where there were fist fights over the parking spaces people spent hours shovelling out before the snow froze into one solid block of ice) to North Carolina, where the weather is much like the Napa Valley area of California, but the cost of living is much lower.

Today it is 45 degrees fahrenheit (about average for this time of year). We have all 4 seasons, but winter is short.. normally only cold enough for a winter coat in January and February...the rest of the time I wear a light jacket. By mid April, everything is blooming again.
Posted By: Mac Re: Winter 2014 .. uggh - 01/26/14 07:43 PM
43 deg F up here in Chesapeake this afternoon, Pat.


--Mac
Posted By: Mac Re: Winter 2014 .. uggh - 01/26/14 07:45 PM
And for Sunday brunch I made a vat of Mac's patented killer chili. Meat and heat. Beans on the side.


And that is rharv's fault.


thankyewverrmuch, rharv!



--Msc
Posted By: bobcflatpicker Re: Winter 2014 .. uggh - 01/26/14 09:04 PM
Mac,

I love me some good chili! The last time I made it, I subbed black beans and corn for kidney beans. It was pretty tasty.

A few days ago I made a big pot of 16 Bean Soup. That was so good that I decided that the next time I make chili I'll use the 16 (or 15) beans in it.

You wouldn't perchance be willing to share your chili recipe would you?
Posted By: bobcflatpicker Re: Winter 2014 .. uggh - 01/26/14 09:14 PM
Here was my solution to the brutally cold weather we've been having:

Bean and vegetable soup - Slow Cooker 15 Bean Soup

1-lb bag 15 bean blend (use only the beans; discard seasoning packet), picked over and rinsed
1 large onion - diced
2 tblsp. minced garlic
1 bag baby carrots, sliced into round (approx. 2 cups)
4-5 stalks celery
1 red sweet pepper - diced
1 yellow sweet pepper - diced
1 teaspoon ground black pepper
2 tblsp. rooster sauce
1 teaspoon dried thyme (or 1 tablespoon fresh)
2 bay leaves
1/4 cup soy sauce
2 32 oz. boxes vegetable broth
2 (14.5 oz) cans diced tomatoes
4 leaves (7-8 oz) Swiss chard or kale, stems removed, cut in 1/2" wide pieces
2 tsp. salt

Add beans, veggies and other ingredients to crock pot. Cover, and placed filled slow cooker insert in refrigerator overnight (8-12 hours). Remove from refrigerator, return to slow cooker, and cook on low for 8-10 hours. Stir in Swiss chard or kale, cover and cook 20-30 minutes more, until Swiss chard is cooked. Salt to taste, if needed.
Posted By: rharv Re: Winter 2014 .. uggh - 01/26/14 09:34 PM
Originally Posted By: Mac
And for Sunday brunch I made a vat of Mac's patented killer chili. Meat and heat. Beans on the side.


And that is rharv's fault.


thankyewverrmuch, rharv!



--Msc


yerverrwelcum

Chili is like firewood; it should warm you at least twice.
Posted By: Curmudgeon Re: Winter 2014 .. uggh - 01/26/14 10:18 PM
My sister from Clio, MI just sent me this:

A Michigan Poem
 
It's winter in Michigan
And the gentle breezes blow.
Seventy miles an hour,
At thirty-five below.
 
Oh, how I love Michigan
When the snow's up to your butt.
You take a breath of winter air
And your nose gets frozen shut.
 
Yes, the weather here is wonderful,
So I guess I'll hang around.
I could never leave Michigan
'Cause I'm frozen to the ground!

Don S.
Posted By: Danny C. Re: Winter 2014 .. uggh - 01/26/14 11:27 PM
Originally Posted By: Robh
I'm with Scott, gonna be 72 here today in Oceanside Cal. It is more expensive here, but all things are relative. Sometimes in the mornings it drops down alllllll the way to 45 degrees, but then the dreaded heat wave kicks in and it climbs to an unearthly 75 some days geez what a unforgiving winter. But you say how are the summers? Man oh man the heat and humidity are killers here, Why just this last summer we had a whole week where the temps soared into the 90s!!! Top that off with having to put up with a typical day around 80 degrees. Man i am not sure how much of this i can take!


Rob you are looking for trouble man! LMAO!

Later,
Posted By: Pat Marr Re: Winter 2014 .. uggh - 01/26/14 11:49 PM
Originally Posted By: Mac
43 deg F up here in Chesapeake this afternoon, Pat.


--Mac


I visited the chesapeake bay area a few years ago for a niece's wedding.. you live in a beautiful place Mac!
Posted By: Sundance Re: Winter 2014 .. uggh - 01/27/14 12:44 AM
Great poem. LOL!

Looks like some good recipes too.

We're not used to the cold down here - natural steam sauna in the summer yeah just go outside - but this cold no. And they just put up winter storm watch for Tues - Wed. Ewww. We just had that last week.

I feel for you people up north. I hope and pray this is the last round of the bitter cold this year. One hard winter that's for sure - enough bitter cold already.

California sounds nice but too many fires out there.

Josie
Posted By: jazzmammal Re: Winter 2014 .. uggh - 01/27/14 04:10 PM
Fires are in the mountains or high desert areas like 30 or more miles from the coast.

It's cooling off right now because it really is winter here, now it's 51 going to a high of 69 then later in the week it's clouding up and cooling off. Sat it's a projected low of 45 with a high of 63. Brrr, gonna have to really bundle up and plug in my car. Jeesh, I may have to wear a sweater.

Hate when that happens.

Bob
Posted By: Curmudgeon Re: Winter 2014 .. uggh - 01/27/14 05:08 PM
It's supposed to hit 74F in Vegas, Thursday. Mornings are still chilly though. smile

Don S.
Posted By: Pat Marr Re: Winter 2014 .. uggh - 01/27/14 06:57 PM
58F today in Winston-Salem... light jacket weather
Posted By: rharv Re: Winter 2014 .. uggh - 01/30/14 02:34 AM
Tonight Winston-Salem is reporting 9F for a low.
Welcome to Michigan!

Your reported high for today (27F) is what we are hoping for this weekend ... just to put it in perspective; that would be 10 degrees above our high temp for the past week. And I'm in 'southern Michigan'.

Ain't normal, but it just might kill the Ash Bore larvae (solving one issue) and the snow may accumulate enough to raise the lake levels (helping solve another)

Trying to look at the bright side
Posted By: Pat Marr Re: Winter 2014 .. uggh - 01/30/14 05:49 AM
you got me on that one... I bragged on NC weather too soon!

we actually have snow on the ground as I write this... not unheard of around here, but not all that common either
Posted By: MarioD Re: Winter 2014 .. uggh - 01/30/14 01:32 PM
We are at the beginning of a heat wave here. Today’s projected high of 25°F! We may get over 32°F for the next two days before it goes below freezing again.
Posted By: sixchannel Re: Winter 2014 .. uggh - 01/30/14 03:17 PM
I know I'll regret saying this but here in the UK we haven't had a Winter - yet!
Sure, the south west of England has had so much rain that most of Somerset is flooded and villages marooned, some for a month now.
But it hasn't been Cold and, so far, no Snow.
Fingers crossed.
Ian
Posted By: Matt Finley Re: Winter 2014 .. uggh - 01/30/14 04:17 PM
The weather around New York City will be above freezing Sunday. All I can say to those who put the SuperBowl here is, you're darn lucky. It still won't be comfortable enough that I would want to attend. I got my fill of playing trumpet charges at freezing football games all over New England in high school.
Posted By: Ryszard Re: Winter 2014 .. uggh - 01/30/14 04:23 PM
Based on the latest weather reports, which predicted light snow in Atlanta and northwards (we're about 25 miles northwest of the city), my wife and I left home yesterday at 10:30 a.m. for a discount warehouse to pick up a big screen TV. There were a few lazy flakes falling, but that was it. It took us 20 minutes to drive the 10 miles down Highway 41 (yes, the one the Allman's wrote about) to the store.

When we came out at noon, an hour later, there was a moderate snowfall, but the ground was covered. We pulled directly into a traffic jam. Fortunately I had over a half tank of gas, but by 7:00 I was wondering whether it would be enough. It took us eight grueling hours, idling in traffic the whole time, to return home. In that time the snow picked up, partly melted, turned to ice on the roads, and tapered off, but the damage was done.

Anything you saw or heard about what happened in Atlanta is true (especially the total gridlock), except for the bit about whose fault it was. We were cruelly misled by the weather service. They said they updated their prediction at around 3:30 that morning to reflect what eventually happened, but somehow nobody got that memo.

I'm personally [convinced of/superstitious enough to believe in] divine intervention. I don't think we would have gotten home otherwise. I have a two-wheel-drive SUV in good shape with new tires, but I still can't believe we made it up those last two hills, then DOWN a hill in our community on a sheet of ice without stalling or sliding into something. My stomach still aches from the tension I was holding in my abs.

But hey. The power is on, the internet is running, we did our weekly shopping on Sunday, and we have a new big screen TV. Could be much worse.

Signed,

Grateful
Posted By: Curmudgeon Re: Winter 2014 .. uggh - 01/30/14 07:48 PM
"But hey. The power is on, the internet is running, we did our weekly shopping on Sunday, and we have a new big screen TV. Could be much worse."

Happy that you got through the ordeal okay.

Looks like you might be all set for the super bowl?

Don S.
Posted By: Ryszard Re: Winter 2014 .. uggh - 01/30/14 08:44 PM
Originally Posted By: Curmudgeon
Looks like you might be all set for the super bowl?

Don S.


That was, after all, the point. It didn't turn out so well for many others. We are extremely grateful for the outcome.
Posted By: rockstar_not Re: Winter 2014 .. uggh - 01/30/14 11:25 PM
I cleared my driveway and sidewalks of 3" of powder snow a couple days ago with an electric leaf blower. It was in the 50's later that day, and I really didn't need to do it. It was done out of scientific curiosity.

We have teens at night, 40s and 50s during the day here in Colorado Springs.

The sun shines brightly most days. In the summer it can get into the 90's 'but it's a dry heat'. In the evenings, low 60s and low humidity - open the windows and sleep like a baby with the whole house fan running. No mosquitos.

Being from Michigan the first 40+ years of my life, I love it here.

Except for the fires. The fires are terrifying.
Posted By: rharv Re: Winter 2014 .. uggh - 01/30/14 11:47 PM
"Except for the fires. The fires are terrifying." QFT

Don't ya miss the lakes? The rivers? Salmon runs .. walleye ..
An eagle family moved into the area recently. I saw one of the adults and a few other people I know are reporting seeing adults and immatures.

It can be pretty cool around here sometimes. It's just too cold lately.
Although today we hit 25F, the wind chill takes it down to 11. It's still the warmest day in over a week, so I should stop whining.
A nice sunny 25F day without wind and blowing snow would be very nice about now!
The roads get plowed and a couple hours later they start drifting over again. Open farm fields really accelerate the process. Lots of farm fields around here.

I do feel for those around Atlanta. Sounds like things got pretty rough.
Posted By: jazzmammal Re: Winter 2014 .. uggh - 01/31/14 01:58 AM
Originally Posted By: rharv
I saw one of the adults and a few other people I know are reporting seeing adults and immatures.


Yeah, I can relate. I see them all the time around here too, especially on the weekends down at the beach. Walking around, wearing almost nothing. Oh wait. You're talking about birds like with feathers and stuff...

Sorry.

Bob
Posted By: Keith from Oz Re: Winter 2014 .. uggh - 01/31/14 02:24 AM
Welcome to PG Music's Weather Channel, where you can pick up some great recipes too!! grin
Posted By: rockstar_not Re: Winter 2014 .. uggh - 01/31/14 06:47 AM
Originally Posted By: rharv
"Except for the fires. The fires are terrifying." QFT

Don't ya miss the lakes? The rivers? Salmon runs .. walleye ..
An eagle family moved into the area recently. I saw one of the adults and a few other people I know are reporting seeing adults and immatures.


The lakes, to some extent yes - but the area I was from in Oakland County, all the lakes are shut-in by homes on the lakes.

There's plenty of rivers here and the fly fishing is more fun to a hack like me - fewer overhead snags. Fish aren't nearly as big as steelhead, of course, but standing in a river with majestic 14,000+ ft peaks around is pretty therapeutic, I must say!

I miss the lush green trees, but not the fall raking and spring raking - my yard in Clarkston had about 30 mature Red Oaks, which shed leaves in the fall for weeks, then in the winter and then in the spring when the new buds come in. Weeks spent raking - those days are over.

I love to be able to see for 100 miles in many directions, and watch the weather roll from the front range out into the plains. You haven't seen majestic thunderheads until you can see the entire weather system cast out in front of you like those 1800's landscape paintings that look too good to be true. When the sun sets behind the Front Range, and the entire silhouette of the Front Range looks like it was torn from black construction paper then placed over a sky that's a pastel rainbow as far as the north is from the south.

Here in the Springs, because it's a major military town, we are all visitors and newbies, so it seems. There are not the generations of families that have lived in a 100 mile radius as long as Henry was giving out paychecks. Back in MI, I can appreciate the green in June, but after a day or two, I start to feel 'closed in' by the trees. My good friend who sort of is responsible for our leaving said that would happen and I didn't realize it until back in MI about a year and a half after living here. I itch to see the Spanish Peaks, faint purple on the southern horizon - 150 miles to the south, the way pointed by the closer and deeper purple Wet Mountains. There's a strange freedom one feels in breathing air that you can see through so far away. And eagles, you do get to see them quite close up all along the Arkansas Valley - seeing a Bald Eagle cruise for trout is a thing of beauty, I have to agree. And they have made a huge comeback up in Alpena/Oscoda area in MI along the Au Sable and Rifle rivers.

I do get to see bighorns and mountain goats, and an occasional bear, and the best was a pair of adult bobcats crossing the street right in front of our car in the mountain shadows neighborhood one night in the winter before the Waldo Canyon fire obliterated major portions of that neighborhood. It was actually shocking and beautiful simultaneously.

There has been deep change to me and my wife and our kids personally since moving out here, and having to deal with everything 'NEW' for the first time in decades; new doctors, new friends, new employers, new church, new schools, new roads, new scenery, etc. Incredibly stressful, but also invigorating. I have learned a little bit how to be a better neighbor and to really know my neighbors, that was a necessity here, and I'm ashamed that I didn't do a better job of it back in MI.

So, do I miss MI? I miss my MI friends and family. I miss a deep green horizon, but not the work and mosquitos that the green harbors behind it's beauty.
Posted By: rharv Re: Winter 2014 .. uggh - 01/31/14 11:30 PM
Nicely played
Posted By: rharv Re: Winter 2014 .. uggh - 01/31/14 11:32 PM
I'll have to get out to your (new) part of the country some day. My dad likes it so much he goes every spring to visit some other 'former michiganders'.
Posted By: rockstar_not Re: Winter 2014 .. uggh - 02/01/14 12:06 AM
Originally Posted By: rharv
I'll have to get out to your (new) part of the country some day. My dad likes it so much he goes every spring to visit some other 'former michiganders'.


Bob,

Take a look in the 'studio pix' thread and you would see where you would stay perhaps - in the guest bedroom/studio. Murphy bed is my most expensive piece of 'studio gear', but also what enables me having the studio in the first place.

-Scott
Posted By: Mac Re: Winter 2014 .. uggh - 02/01/14 01:11 AM
At's not a Murphy Bed, its a WaveTrap!
Posted By: Pat Marr Re: Winter 2014 .. uggh - 02/01/14 06:25 PM
these pics might make y'all feel better... um.. unless they were taken at your house...

deep snow
Posted By: 90 dB Re: Winter 2014 .. uggh - 02/01/14 06:37 PM
72 and sunny. Lookin at 80 tomorrow. grin
Posted By: Pat Marr Re: Winter 2014 .. uggh - 02/05/14 05:59 PM
Kinda makes you wonder what the settlers were thinking.

I imagine a meeting of the "westward-HO" society:

"Well, here's the situation: The natives all want to kill us. The woods are full of venomous creatures, and large carnivores with huge teeth and sharp claws. The fields are strewn with poisonous-yet-delicious looking plants, berries and mushrooms... when they aren't covered by a solid sheet of ice, as they are for 6 months out of the year. Three fourths of us have already frozen to death. The rest of us are slowly starving to death. What are our options?"

to which, somebody apparently replied:

"I know!! Let's build a city here!"
Posted By: 90 dB Re: Winter 2014 .. uggh - 02/06/14 11:57 AM
Some of the settlers headed South. Went fishing on the Withlacoochie yesterday. Made a new friend as well. He really likes minnows. grin






Posted By: Mac Re: Winter 2014 .. uggh - 02/06/14 02:13 PM
Fishin' intead o' Wishin'

Hey, the last few years I've discovered that I can save a whole buncha money by not buyin' the minnows at all.

See, the minnows attract fish that hit the line - and that wakes me up...

grin


--Mac
Posted By: rharv Re: Winter 2014 .. uggh - 02/07/14 01:19 AM
Nice pic of a great blue.
When I get to another system I can post an image of a groundhog bringing an apple to a great blue, but for now this is all I got. Herons are cool.
I watched an alligator try to sneak up on one one day .. kept trying for half an hour, but the heron would just wait, wait, wait, fly down the shore.
Gator just kept floating along towards him acting like a log. It was kinda comical.

To fish around here right now you need a good auger and coveralls.

smile



Attached picture greatBlueHeron.jpg
Posted By: 90 dB Re: Winter 2014 .. uggh - 02/07/14 11:46 AM
You guys have some of the best fishing in the country, and, you have brown trout!

For the winter, you need one of these.




Posted By: Mac Re: Winter 2014 .. uggh - 02/07/14 01:35 PM
Nice Home Studio pic.
Posted By: Larry Kehl Re: Winter 2014 .. uggh - 02/07/14 07:56 PM
I think in the previous posts some folks are talking about that bean laden stuff that some folks call chili ("New Jersey?").

Real folks know chili only comes in two variations: Red or Green.

And whoever here was posting about cold and white winters and was speaking about the LOWER part of Michigan knows little about winter, lower MI is subtropical, try night shift work on a flight-line up in Gwinn (K.I. Sawyer AFB) or Kincheloe (KAFB) or any outside work at Minot (ND) or Eielson (AK).

Simply going to college in Marquette, Northern Michigan University (good solid school by the way), alone should earn goers some kind of arctic certification on top of a degree.

Yoopers forever!

Honesty in advertising, you will notice I don't live or work up "north" anymore or even back in home state of PA. Because I don’t want that white crap anywhere near me. I don't mind LOOKING at snow on a mountain top covered in it but that is as close as I want to get now a days.)

Larry

Posted By: Mac Re: Winter 2014 .. uggh - 02/07/14 08:07 PM
Now Larry, old buddy, by now ya'll should know me well enough to know what I (and you) call Chili.

Meat + Heat = Chili

Meat can be most anything warm blooded, but the heat has got to come from Chili Peppers.

Beans are a side dish, to be served with the Chili along with the warm flour tortillas.

If a guest wants to mix the Chili and Beans together, it is their option.

Made a batch of Menudo the other night...

--Mac
Posted By: Larry Kehl Re: Winter 2014 .. uggh - 02/07/14 08:14 PM
I should have not impugned all posters - LOL

(PS if you want some good fresh NM chilies next season let me know! My wife, who is Chinese, grows and pickles Jalapeños - I'll send you a jar or two along with the Chilies)



Posted By: Mac Re: Winter 2014 .. uggh - 02/07/14 10:19 PM
That would be an appreciated care pack, Larry, you can't imagine what I go thru to get my Chilies here in Virginia, don't get me wrong, they grow plenty of 'em, but they taste different, guess its the soil and the climate.


Brought. it. ON, bro!


--Mac
Posted By: 90 dB Re: Winter 2014 .. uggh - 02/07/14 11:29 PM
Best Chili Rellenos I ever had - Springer New Mexico. MMMmmmmmmmm.
Posted By: jazzmammal Re: Winter 2014 .. uggh - 02/13/14 08:01 AM
Now there's something. I LOVE chile rellenos. I may have to walk over to the Cantina on the pier for some. Did somebody say it's snowing somewhere?

Bob
Posted By: Ryszard Re: Winter 2014 .. uggh - 02/13/14 09:44 AM
Originally Posted By: jazzmammal
Did somebody say it's snowing somewhere?

Bob


That'd be Atlanta again, only this time we got it right. Everybody stayed home so the sand trucks and plows could do their work. (I thought I'd run out for a Blu-Ray player to go with the new big screen TV I got just before the last storm, but resisted the impulse.) However, there was ice involved. Tens of thousands of people are without electricity due to fallen trees and power lines. Nobody's going anywhere for a couple of days.
Posted By: Mac Re: Winter 2014 .. uggh - 02/13/14 03:04 PM
Originally Posted By: jazzmammal
Now there's something. I LOVE chile rellenos. I may have to walk over to the Cantina on the pier for some. Did somebody say it's snowing somewhere?

Bob



Mmmm, there's a little restaurant near here that makes 'em with the big Pablano peppers lotsa cheese and a light covering of red chili sauce...


Now look what you've started...


--Mac
Posted By: jazzmammal Re: Winter 2014 .. uggh - 02/13/14 11:07 PM
Ryzard, Rharv and others I'm making jokes and all that but these storms are really getting serious and I know you're getting sick of them. I get it, been there. Be careful and you guys have my sympathies.

My office overlooks the runways at LAX and I can see the ocean from here. It's partly cloudy and 69 degrees.

What can I say? Typical LA winter except we need more rain.

Bob
Posted By: rharv Re: Winter 2014 .. uggh - 02/15/14 01:05 AM
Great Lakes are 88+% froze over. Been a long time since that happened. Imagine walking across a lake that has a surface area of 23,000 sq miles. That's Lake Huron, it's approaching 90% frozen over..

Ice jams in the rivers gonna be real interesting this year.
Posted By: Mac Re: Winter 2014 .. uggh - 02/15/14 01:30 AM
There's likely going to be some flooding when the ice and snow melts, too. Not so much for the lakes, I think, but always a concern where there are rivers.


--Mac
Posted By: Matt Finley Re: Winter 2014 .. uggh - 02/15/14 02:34 AM
Just dug out from 2 feet of snow in the Hudson Valley. Feels a little like it used to in the 1950s when this was normal.
Posted By: sslechta Re: Winter 2014 .. uggh - 02/15/14 03:04 AM
Even here in St. Louis where it snows one day and gone the next, we've had several inches on the ground for a few weeks.
Posted By: Mac Re: Winter 2014 .. uggh - 02/15/14 12:26 PM
Originally Posted By: Matt Finley
Just dug out from 2 feet of snow in the Hudson Valley. Feels a little like it used to in the 1950s when this was normal.



I'm glad someone else remembers that too, not only was it "normal" -- we simply shoveled the snow and then set off for school, which was rarely canceled for "only" 2 feet...

Some days, when we got to the school, some of the older boys would be tasked with shoveling off the school's sidewalks and parking places, too. And then report to classes with the coveted, "Snow Pass".

Neighbors would band together and shovel off whole streets.

Then drive to work afterwards, and many of them could not afford to be late for work, either, they simply got out of bed earlier in order to deal with the snowstorm.

And it seemed like *everybody* knew the proper methods for driving safely in the snow.

Nobody made the claim that it was an End-of-the-World-As-We-Know-It event, either, but then that generation had been to the big city and seen the elephant, so to speak, something called WWII...


--Mac
Posted By: rharv Re: Winter 2014 .. uggh - 02/15/14 02:15 PM
Yeah, we're hoping the lake levels rise a bit from it all. Been a couple feet low for a couple decades. However it takes about 10" of snow to make an inch of water.
You are exactly right; it's the rivers that will flood, not the lakes.

Wikipedia says 1.1 million gallons of water flow through the mouth of St Clair river per second. Probably won't be enough come the thaw when ice starts impeding the progress.
That's another unique part. I remember forty years ago when these large snows were not uncommon, but we usually got a January thaw, or at least a few days of warm to melt it and start over. Didn't happen this year.

My front yard has a few feet on it. My landscape lights are a couple feet tall and when I turn them on the snow glows, looks pretty cool.
The piles of snow at the edge of parking lots is hilarious. They might not finish melting until June!

Mind you I am not complaining, just sayin' it ain't a normal winter here. Even considering the past.
Posted By: Mac Re: Winter 2014 .. uggh - 02/15/14 04:08 PM
Ah, the hubris.

Have we been here long enough to even be able to say what is "normal" about the climate and/or weather?

Methinks not.



--Mac
Posted By: rharv Re: Winter 2014 .. uggh - 02/15/14 04:45 PM
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