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Posted By: HearToLearn Upgrading Band Member(s) - 07/14/18 10:58 PM
I'm curious bands that you all feel added a member or changed a member that ended up being an upgrade to the band.

I'll start. I liked Journey pre-Perry; but really liked them after they added him.
Posted By: rockstar_not Re: Upgrading Band Member(s) - 07/15/18 12:19 AM
The Beatles. Don’t know which member? Google is your friend.
Posted By: dcuny Re: Upgrading Band Member(s) - 07/15/18 01:27 AM
Originally Posted By: rockstar_not
The Beatles. Don’t know which member? Google is your friend.

Pete best? The Beatles were never the same after that. wink
Posted By: HearToLearn Re: Upgrading Band Member(s) - 07/15/18 06:57 AM
Originally Posted By: rockstar_not
The Beatles. Don’t know which member? Google is your friend.


Google is my friend. You are obviously referring to replacing "Paul" with faux Paul/"Faul."

It pays to educate yourself people. Google is THE culmination of the world's knowledge. I feel for the less educated people.
Posted By: BlueAttitude Re: Upgrading Band Member(s) - 07/15/18 07:03 AM
I was a huge Stevie Ray Vaughan fan right from the start with the original trio, but for me things kicked up a notch when they added Reese Wynans on keyboards.
Posted By: floyd jane Re: Upgrading Band Member(s) - 07/15/18 07:16 AM
The Eagles soared after adding Don Felder. Then higher with Joe Walsh.

Fleetwood Mac lost their Blues by adding Lindsey Buckingham and Stevie Nicks.
Posted By: Notes Norton Re: Upgrading Band Member(s) - 07/15/18 08:55 AM
I agree with the Eagles improvement with Joe Walsh, but personally I liked Fleetwood Mac best with Bob Welch.

I think Michael McDonald addition to the Doobie Brothers improved their music.

And for Jay and the Americans, replacing Jay Traynor with Dave Blatt (renamed Jay Black) was a bonus.

Notes
Posted By: HearToLearn Re: Upgrading Band Member(s) - 07/15/18 11:49 AM
Originally Posted By: BlueAttitude
I was a huge Stevie Ray Vaughan fan right from the start with the original trio, but for me things kicked up a notch when they added Reese Wynans on keyboards.


I hear ya.
Posted By: HearToLearn Re: Upgrading Band Member(s) - 07/15/18 11:52 AM
Originally Posted By: floyd jane

Fleetwood Mac lost their Blues by adding Lindsey Buckingham and Stevie Nicks.


Very true. I never saw it, but could hear the addition of an occasional goat on vocals. That really surprised me. They really stuck with it though.

Seriously though, I really love the backing vocals and harms. SOOOOO good in my opinion.
Posted By: Pat Marr Re: Upgrading Band Member(s) - 07/15/18 03:57 PM
Originally Posted By: dcuny
Originally Posted By: rockstar_not
The Beatles. Don’t know which member? Google is your friend.

Pete best? The Beatles were never the same after that. wink


neither was Pete Best...

(Ba-boom! TSH!)
Posted By: JohnJohnJohn Re: Upgrading Band Member(s) - 07/15/18 09:42 PM
Fleetwood Mac became an entirely new, and in my opinion much better band, when they reset in 1974. This lineup produced two #1 albums with Rumours at #1 for 31 weeks and it became the 8th top selling album to date. I liked them before the reset but I cannot argue with success and I really loved both of those albums. So yeah, I'd say Fleetwood Mac 2.0 was def an upgrade!
Posted By: dcuny Re: Upgrading Band Member(s) - 07/16/18 02:07 AM
Well, you could buy Pete's solo album if you wanted:

Posted By: Deryk - PG Music Re: Upgrading Band Member(s) - 07/16/18 11:58 AM
This is a really interesting topic smile Aside from what has been mentioned already - namely The Eagles and The Beatles - a couple others come to mind for me.

When Brian Johnson took over as AC/DC's singer is really when they started releasing the music I came to know and love. I've never been super into the band, but all the music I'm most familiar with from them is in the Brian Johnson era.

A lesser known one would be Flaming Lips. A lot of people who listen to them don't even really know they used to have a different lead singer. Wayne Coyne took over as the lead singer in 1985 after the original singer left the band to pursue other things.
Posted By: Notes Norton Re: Upgrading Band Member(s) - 07/16/18 12:11 PM
I too can't argue with the success of Fleetwood Mac after Buckingham and Nicks joined, but personally I liked them better before.

I think Blood Sweat and Tears did much better with David Clayton Thomas on lead vocals than Al Kooper. I liked both editions for different reasons.
Posted By: Frank Alves Re: Upgrading Band Member(s) - 07/16/18 12:21 PM
Grace Slick replaced the original female vocalists Signe Anderson in 1966. The Airplane really took off smile after that, although I think Signe had a very good voice as well. I didn't like them as well later, when they replaced some of the original members and became Jefferson Starship.
Posted By: BlueAttitude Re: Upgrading Band Member(s) - 07/16/18 12:57 PM
Originally Posted By: Frank Alves
Grace Slick replaced the original female vocalists Signe Anderson in 1966. The Airplane really took off smile after that, although I think Signe had a very good voice as well. I didn't like them as well later, when they replaced some of the original members and became Jefferson Starship.


Learn something new everyday, I always thought Grace Slick was there from the beginning.

I listened to Airplane a lot back in the day and I'm with you; I never cared much for Jefferson Starship either.
Posted By: HearToLearn Re: Upgrading Band Member(s) - 07/16/18 01:11 PM
Originally Posted By: Frank Alves
Grace Slick replaced the original female vocalists Signe Anderson in 1966. The Airplane really took off smile after that, although I think Signe had a very good voice as well. I didn't like them as well later, when they replaced some of the original members and became Jefferson Starship.


I wasn't a huge fan of the band in their many versions of it; but Mickey Thomas was another. Man, that guy sang songs I don't really care for really well!
Posted By: Janice & Bud Re: Upgrading Band Member(s) - 07/16/18 03:46 PM
My favorite years of the Rolling Stones are with Mick Taylor. If you ever want your kids or grandkids to know what the Stones were all about play Get Yer Ya Ya's Out. All live touring and just scorching with Taylor and Keith. So Mick replaced Brian and then Mick quit and got replaced by Ron Wood. Wood played some great bass with Jeff Beck but I never thought he brought much to the Stones on guitar. Taylor was understated in his demeanor and underrated regarding his playing IMO. He just stood there, rarely moving, looking somewhat bored all the while cranking out killer solos and backup.

Bud
Posted By: HearToLearn Re: Upgrading Band Member(s) - 07/16/18 04:37 PM
Originally Posted By: Janice & Bud
My favorite years of the Rolling Stones are with Mick Taylor. If you ever want your kids or grandkids to know what the Stones were all about play Get Yer Ya Ya's Out. All live touring and just scorching with Taylor and Keith. So Mick replaced Brian and then Mick quit and got replaced by Ron Wood. Wood played some great bass with Jeff Beck but I never thought he brought much to the Stones on guitar. Taylor was understated in his demeanor and underrated regarding his playing IMO. He just stood there, rarely moving, looking somewhat bored all the while cranking out killer solos and backup.

Bud


It's Jagger, Mick Jagger. He's the guy that's in the Rolling Stones. wink You were close though.




(Now I'm curious if anyone will think I'm serious. My humor, at times, has not translated well to the forum.)
Posted By: BlueAttitude Re: Upgrading Band Member(s) - 07/17/18 07:59 AM
Originally Posted By: Janice & Bud
My favorite years of the Rolling Stones are with Mick Taylor.


Yes, same here. Those three albums with Mick on guitar remain classic, the Stones never did much after that that interested me (although obviously they remain a very successful band smile

To tie in with the Fleetwood Mac thread, his original claim to fame was when he replaced Peter Green in John Mayall's Bluesbreakers when Peter left to form (or join? not sure) Fleetwood Mac.

Saw him recently on that John Mayall 70th birthday concert DVD, he was and still is a fabulous guitarist. That DVD is definitely worth watching if you haven't seen it.

Posted By: jford Re: Upgrading Band Member(s) - 07/17/18 10:38 AM
Quote:
It's Jagger, Mick Jagger. He's the guy that's in the Rolling Stones. You were close though.


No, he's talking about Mick Taylor, not Mick Jagger.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mick_Taylor
Posted By: HearToLearn Re: Upgrading Band Member(s) - 07/17/18 11:55 AM
Originally Posted By: jford
Quote:
It's Jagger, Mick Jagger. He's the guy that's in the Rolling Stones. You were close though.


No, he's talking about Mick Taylor, not Mick Jagger.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mick_Taylor


You missed the second half of the quote of mine.

Originally Posted By: HearToLearn

It's Jagger, Mick Jagger. He's the guy that's in the Rolling Stones. wink You were close though.




(Now I'm curious if anyone will think I'm serious. My humor, at times, has not translated well to the forum.)


The stuff in the ( )'s was important too. See, I'm not as dumb as you all think. Ok, I am; but still...;)
Posted By: Janice & Bud Re: Upgrading Band Member(s) - 07/17/18 12:23 PM
Set ‘em up....knock ‘em down. smile
Glad I saw the caveat!
Posted By: David Snyder Re: Upgrading Band Member(s) - 07/17/18 07:20 PM

Jeff Beck when he added Tal Wilkenfeld.

I hope no explanation is necessary.
Posted By: Janice & Bud Re: Upgrading Band Member(s) - 07/17/18 10:35 PM
She is amazing.
Posted By: HearToLearn Re: Upgrading Band Member(s) - 07/17/18 10:46 PM
Originally Posted By: David Snyder

Jeff Beck when he added Tal Wilkenfeld.

I hope no explanation is necessary.


Jeff Beck, Tal Wilkenfeld may not have needed more explanation.

Jeff Beck/Tal maybe?

You were correct in your hope David! smile
Posted By: HearToLearn Re: Upgrading Band Member(s) - 07/17/18 10:49 PM
One maybe a bit lesser known was Todd Sucherman being added to styx. I thought he did a great job of respecting the spirit of the song's original parts; but livening them up a bit.

Posted By: BlueAttitude Re: Upgrading Band Member(s) - 07/18/18 07:16 AM
Originally Posted By: David Snyder

Jeff Beck when he added Tal Wilkenfeld.



That particular lineup with Tal Wilkenfeld on bass and Vinnie Colaiuta on drums was certainly special, they brought out the best in Jeff IMHO.

She has been a solo performer for the last few years, I follow her on facebook.
Posted By: David Snyder Re: Upgrading Band Member(s) - 07/18/18 04:31 PM
Oh, wait Caaron, close second:

When Steve Vai started hanging out with Orianthi Panagari so that he could let a girl teach him how to play.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7b-_YcACuQ

I don't know if anyone else thinks she is a monster, but Carlos Santana said:

"She's better than me."

Speaking of Carlos, Prince once said: "I am tired of being compared to Jimi Hendrix. I play like Santana."

Anyway, I am going to try and memorize this solo tonight so HTL and I can record this tomorrow.

Are you good on the drums, HTL??




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Posted By: HearToLearn Re: Upgrading Band Member(s) - 07/20/18 08:34 PM
Originally Posted By: David Snyder
Oh, wait Caaron, close second:

When Steve Vai started hanging out with Orianthi Panagari so that he could let a girl teach him how to play.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7b-_YcACuQ

I don't know if anyone else thinks she is a monster, but Carlos Santana said:

"She's better than me."

Speaking of Carlos, Prince once said: "I am tired of being compared to Jimi Hendrix. I play like Santana."

Anyway, I am going to try and memorize this solo tonight so HTL and I can record this tomorrow.

Are you good on the drums, HTL??




Wow, those two can slay. So impressive. I do have to say, it just has that JS sound to the song though. He not only has a style; his song/band have a lot of that sound.

And are you asking for us to put that song together? That song is basically about the guitars. Great to listen to; but so so on drumming. Don't get me wrong though; Josh is the man. Go figure that JS wouldn't have anyone who can't play in his band. wink

Posted By: David Snyder Re: Upgrading Band Member(s) - 07/21/18 11:24 AM
I was kinda goofin' HTL. But if you want to record it man sure.

What time do I come over?

Is your wife making dinner???
Posted By: DrDan Re: Upgrading Band Member(s) - 07/21/18 12:03 PM
Originally Posted By: David Snyder


I will likely now be humming that melody all day. grin
Posted By: dcuny Re: Upgrading Band Member(s) - 07/21/18 05:30 PM


This is what every drummer thinks the song mix should be like.
Posted By: David Snyder Re: Upgrading Band Member(s) - 07/21/18 10:32 PM
I don't get the joke.

It is what every mix is supposed to sound like.

That was awesome!! Who needs anything else??

smile
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