OK this is just an FYI video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFHBBN0CqXk

enjoy
Larry

EDIT

Related cud to chew

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDjC5jklb3o

EDIT over

I really wanted to upgrade my laptop to Win10 (in fact, I did for awhile). But HP couldn't be bothered to provide a compatible video driver for my machine (well they actually didn't provide it for Windows 8 and so by extension for Win10 also), and the fingerprint reader and HDMI port stop working (again, drivers). And a few other things didn't work right.
Even after spending a long time looking for alternate solutions and fixes, the best solution for getting on with being productive was reverting back to Win7.

The good news is that since at least I had done the initial Win10 upgrade, my machine is already in their registration database. So come 2020, I'll be able to either buy a new laptop or re-upgrade to Win10 and just live with the limitations for awhile.

But for now, I'll keep it at Win7 as it is rock solid.

I'm not anti-Win10 (my two desktops are Win10), just pragmatic. I gave Win10 the old college try (on my laptop), but Win7 sits more comfortably on it.

Bro, how old is that laptop?

I am at a level of nerd that I actually LOOK for reasons to buy new computers. Since Windows 10 came out I bought 2 new towers and a new laptop. It's only money, and I can't keep a cent when I'm dead.

While some folks can just go out and buy new computers as it suits them, that is not my situation. And all it would have taken was for HP to literally spend 5 minutes on new drivers, but they didn't (and said they wouldn't), because they would rather sell a new computer. And this was not a cheap laptop to start with.

John

I'm still using a Dell Latitude laptop with Windows XP and another, slightly newer, with Win 7, my other laptops and my desktop are now all Win 10.

However, even my new home built Win 10 desktop has MULTIPLE Windows XP and Windows 7 VM's eating up space on my SSD.

All these older OS's are mainly due to customer support requirements but I still prefer Win 7 over Win 10.

Larry

While I've been (for the most part) happy with Win10, I prefer Win7 as well; it's one of the reasons why I use Stardock Start10 as a replacement Start menu on my Win10 machines.

Well, if it's any consolation..... I'm still using XP Pro 32bit with SP3 on my DAW. The machine is totally 64 bit capable with quad cores and all that.... but.... if it ain't broke.... why fix it? Right?

Larry: And while it's for nostalgia more than productivity, I've got VMWare Desktop (an older version) running on the same laptop so I can run MS-DOS 6.22, Windows for Workgropus 3.11, Windows 95, Windows 98, Windows XP Pro, Windows Vista, Windows 8, and Ubuntu Linux. Those images are all on a 1TB eSATA drive connected to the laptop.

Starting MS-DOS...

HIMEM is testing memory ...done

C:\>C:\DOS\SMARTDRV.exe /X
C:\>_

And we think windows 10 is a pain!!!...lollol

And yes, Windows 10 is a pain. It is just a different sort of pain.

I guess the precise number is not known but somewhere around 129 million people are still using Windows XP.

I really don't like Windows 10 but it is better than the other choices for me.

Cheers,

Billy

I'm still using a laptop with Windows XP to run my Model Railroad out in the Garage. No sense throwing out a perfectly running computer on one hand, and no sense putting a bleeding edge piece of technology in the Garage to run trains over telephone wire. I keep the fire breather with the 2 graphic cards in my studio to edit videos.

Interesting views on versions of Windows OS. I've always been a complete geek and try to learn the new Windows versions as soon as I can. That way I can always help friends and family when they adopt. My view is that each version has got better. Sure there are some things that change that can be difficult to grasp at first. Others will mention that they do not like the "intrusions" newer versions seem to have regarding your privacy. The more you work with the new OS, the easier it becomes to use it. It's all about adapting to change. If change is difficult for your personality, the upgrade will be difficult.

When you work in IT and have to support it, you have no choice.



And some of these people buy a house based on where they will park their horse and buggy.....

I remember when Windows 95 came out in, uh, I guess it was 95. LOL!! I was one of those idiots standing in line waiting for the store to open at midnight to buy it on the first day. I then spent 40 hours straight over a weekend with a manual on my lap listening to it beep saying "invalid command". Cursing at it like a sailor. Until I realized "Oh yeah. I did that wrong."

Some people refuse to continue learning new things. But that is just part of the microwave world we live in.

My favorite t-shirts. And yes, I own both of them.

Nice Eddie...… I own this T-shirt and wear it to my friends/relatives when I fix their PC:

Steve, fortunately the few friends I have are also nerds and can fix their own problems. Which is good, since they caused them.... I once charged a past girlfriend for fixing her kid's computer. She was shocked, but she paid me. Hey, 2 hours of my time is 2 hours of my time. I don't care if there are "benefits" involved or not.

I also fired her from the band we started, so.... I didn't see much of her after that.

All of this is fun but John has a legitimate issue and I'm one of the biggest proponents of using Win 10. You shouldn't have to buy another expensive laptop because HP refuses to update the stupid drivers. That's one reason why I usually build my own desktops but I've not yet seen a DIY laptop kit...

Bob

Larry: The frustration and discontent so well expressed in the video are, sadly, nearly universal among PC users required to plunk down their hard-earned
cash for editions for which they don't see the need, although few of us express the feelings quite like the actor in the video. The video talks about options, but, really, most of us feel there isn't much we can do about Silicon Valley's business plans. We console ourselves with the miracle of the PC and shrug it off and, if anything, after trying the MAC option. Linux, of course, still the elusive Holy Grail.
I received the news about WIN 7 last year and went ahead and bought a reconditioned laptop with WIN 10. After going through and disabling most of the touch features, it runs about like a regular computer. I'll keep the WIN 7 machine as an offline box -- a lot of years, tweaks, and money later, I could never bring the WIN 10 machine up to the standards of the old WIN 7.
I doubt I am the only one who has chosen to go this route -- a so-so internet machine and a serious offline computer.

Win7 x64 user here, hated Win10 the few months I used it for the studio. For the net I am Linux 99.9% of the time.....

That was the fork in the road when I bought the reconditioned WIN 10 machine : Linux or 10 for the internet ? Down the road, we will be seeing Linux/Inrupt/Solid. It has reached that point.
Incidentally, I've noticed an increase in registry activity noted by CC Cleaner upon logging off. Not a lot, but just a few issues to be deleted, usually connected to Edge and Explorer, neither of which I use. Never used to happen with 7.