Country star Morgan Wallen sees album sales spike despite industry backlash over N-word video


https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/country-star-sees-sales-spike-despite-industry-backlash-over-n-n1257065


This racist numbskull has found a new way to sell more records! Just throw out the "N" word and any other racial slurs you can think of.


After all, a large percentage of the country music fans and their friends, family, co-workers, fellow church members and folks down at their local grocer do it all the time!


Why not buy as many of their hero racist numbskulls records as they can! That'll show other people that it's okay to hate people just because of the color of their skin!


I know what I'm talking about because I grew up among these folks. I even got labeled an "N word lover" because I had the audacity to play with the black kids.


Current events are a sad commentary on the the state of racism, civil rights and decency in rural America and elsewhere today.

Bob, thank you for saying that. I have lost a good friend over... not racism... but women's healthcare. No, I do not support abortion. I support the right of a woman to get health care.

For example my insurance no longer covers mammograms. I can pay a co-pay. The insurance will not even do that.

Guess he feels anyone... men get breast cancer also... can just suck it up.

He is a hair better about racism but not by much.

The US has gotten really weird.

...Deb

I am in the same boat. We lived about a mile from what back then was called a migrant camp, i.e. a place where black people lived during harvest season. We played a lot with black kids. My father fished and any fish we couldn't use he gave to them.

I think the media pushes racism. And what is racism? As far as I know we are all of the human race. Different cultures but the same race.

Decency is gone because we took God and discipline out of everything. YMMV

I've played with black, white, hispanic and other musicians. The only thing that mattered was how well they played and worked with the rest of the band.

I was a white guy surrounded by black musicians when I was working for Motown. Nobody ever made any of the white guys feel odd for being in the minority, all that mattered was how well you played and cooperated with the other musicians.

It's not what ethnicity you are, it's who you are and what you do that matters. I've met black and white people that I don't care to associate with.

Insights and incites by Notes

I can't even imagine having one of the artists I like shouting the "N" word and my first response being to go out and buy their new record to reward them.

That doesn't speak well of country fans.

Bob, the stuff they are playing on the "country" stations today is not country

Mario,

I agree totally. Now Chris Stapleton IS country. Damn good country.

Bob

You are probably a great guy and a great picker. You probably don't beat your wife or kids or dog or shoot at Trump supporters (even if you have an urge to) - you probably at your core a nice person

BUT ....

I usually stay out of these but this one is the straw, especially this week. This is like a broken record of “here we go again.” Can you not STAY 100% ON MUSIC on this site? Can't you skip the thinly-veiled politics, the WOKEness, the not so subtle low-decible whispers about America being bad if not downright evil, blah, blah, blah or whatever it is you always seem to flick off your finger here eery now and then.

You always seem to be able to find some way to track crap into the house. Most of the time it’s just tiny, little, minuscule (see redundant) sized mouse turds but turds nonetheless, they are. from my perspective they are only meant to dig and prod and to show, I assume, moral superiority and how woke you are and how bad/evil America is (that's usually where these end up). It seems you throw these out for effect, like an artillery officer seeing what damage the next volley will do.

That’s all I can think especially when there are thousands of other sites, echo-chamber sites at that (those cesspool places like Twitter and Facebook and Instagram come to mind), for you to join so you can bemoan the state of America. You seem to be simply stirring a pot here, a music site, to see which chunks float, which sink, and which just stay in the mix and on the sidelines.

If no one comments or jumps in you must feel vindicated. If you do get echo chamber support here (aka bubba's doing the POB [pat on back] thing), again you and they must feel vindicated - not sure what that accomplishes but, OK.

However, if anyone disagrees or has a non-parallel view with you, you simply get on some holier-than-thou horse, or another (genus) Equus animal, and throw out a few trite aphorisms.

for the record, the CREEPY person, in this case, isn’t the drunk-on-his-butt dude out with his buds late at night coming home and talking to EACH OTHER and no one else - but the crime of the century was he was over heard!

No the sick perverted individual is the gustapo, Big Brother, Trotskyite, Child of the Cultural Revolution creep who had to have had (has?) 24/7 surveillance set up to even CATCH those almost inaudible and fleeting words, across a lot, at that hour between two drunk buds! For all, I know that "neighbor" also captures inappropriate pictures of little girls in his neighborhood.

Here watch some actual black people “react” to it! (and this is just TWO) - you ain’t gonna like their politics either!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A53q44STmVo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiZjAXhnlFQ



And Mario,

Music hasn’t been music in MANY decades, let alone country music not being country music.


No, sorry, I won't be monitoring to reply

Peace and good luck to all, I truly do mean all

Larry

The only thing I'm going to address is your suggestion that I think or say that America is bad. I don't even know how you came up with that.

I love the USA and I feel very fortunate to have been born here. The Star Spangled Banner still sometimes brings tears to my eyes.

If it makes you feel better about yourself to insult me then knock yourself out. Just don't make stuff up that has no element of truth to it.

I don't know how he came up with that either. Bob, you and I are at the opposite ends of the political spectrum and I will blow your's and anyone's butt in if you post political or religious posts. But like you "I love the USA and I feel very fortunate to have been born here. The Star Spangled Banner still sometimes brings tears to my eyes." BUT this post was about music. This is a music site is it not?

About is response to me, I didn't say I hated what was on country radio today, I just call it pop not country. I know genre labeling is usually an age thing. I do like some of the music on country sites. There is good music being produced today, you just have to look for it as it is usually not on "corporate music stations".

One last thing about the N word. No one should use it. but if one side can then so can the other. I pray for the day when we all have the same equal opportunities,language, peace, and we are all called Americans, i.e. no hyphen.

I call it "Nashville Music" to differentiate it from real Country.

On a related note, what they call R&B today (Rhythm & Blues) isn't close to what R&B was in the BB King and Bobby "Blue" Bland days. There is still rhythm but zero blue notes.

Oh well, you either like it or you don't, but it seems to me when a new type of music evolves, it should get a new name. It would make it a lot easier on us musicians.

Insights and incites by Notes

Notes, I never thought about that but you are right about R&B.

Here there are only two types of music. That which I like and that which I don't like, regardless of genre and/or singers/band.

Yeah because a little racism while drunk with your buds, well that's just fine, right? NO! It isn't. I'm pretty sick of racists and misogynists and homophobes and other bigots trying to get off the hook in this way. It ain't Cancel Culture. It is Accountability Culture!

Bob, I think (and hope) that things are slowly getting better. And that this latest period is just the squealing of the white dinosaurs as they slowly realize the USA ain't "whites only! And it ain't "Christians only". In a generation whites will become a minority here. The dinosaurs won't disappear overnight but they will die off.

John,

I love those last 2 lines! Well said.

"Jason Isbell Will Donate Songwriting Royalties From Morgan Wallen Album to the NAACP"


Good for Jason. Now if Morgan Wallen is actually sorry for his racist nonsense he might want to do the same. I watched the actual video of it on TMZ but I'm not going to post a link.


Here is the article about Jason Isbell;


https://variety.com/2021/music/news/jason-isbell-morgan-wallen-royalties-cover-me-up-naacp-1234905192/

"Morgan Wallen Breaks His Silence, Asks Fans To Stop Defending Him"

https://tasteofcountry.com/morgan-wallen-apology-video/

Morgan does seem sincere in his latest effort to reach out and apologize.

Well I still like both kinds of music, country and western. Then there's everything else.

On a serious note, in my mind Chris Stapleton singing and songs are more blues orientated than country. But that's just me.

One act with lots of iHeart country radio airplay is Luke Combs. He's one of the few artists that I like almost every song I hear him sing. I'm not a lyrics person but the lyrics to "+++ Better Together +++" is as country as it gets.

I not sure I understand why anyone would be in favor of corporate america being judge, jury, and executioner of a person's livelihood based on a one derogatory comment. I don't care if the person was drunk or sober.

The word in question, however rude and disgusting is both legal and protected by the first amendment. My personal dislike for such language is not relevant.

Based on the use of rude words should we put Universal Music Group out of business for supporting the majority of the rap artist?

I would be surprised to know if a single person has not at some time in their life made a derogatory comment. Do you think it is a good idea to go to work tomorrow and be fired for something you said that is currently considered offensive? Do you really want corporate america controlling what you say?

Billy

I absolutely agree! I grew up in a very white town where minorities were regularly mistreated, and I learned to be racist at a young age. Now as an adult I am taking accountability of my previous actions and making sure I don't repeat them ever - drunk or not!




The first amendment protects freedom of speech, not freedom from repercussions for that speech. Freedom of speech only protects your freedom to express your opinions without censorship, interference, or restraint by the government; it does not protect censorship, interference, or restraint by any other group (employers or otherwise), and it does not protect hate speech in any way (which the N-word is).

Thank you Simon! It is good to remind people that the first amendment is about the government being unable to prevent speech. It does not nor should not protect you from repercussions from hateful speech.

Hi Simon,

I was going to go into the legal issues but changed my mind. I simply don't totally agree with your statements. What construes hate speech is totally dependent on context. Is the use of that word hate speech when Eddie Murphy used it in comedy? Do you see youtube taking down the thousands of videos that use that word?

I assume you are Canadian but that is only an assumption. I have a good bit of experience with eastern Canada and Newfoundland and know some of the slang and derogatory words used there.

"Hoser" for example without getting into some really rude words.

The classic Canadian insult. Originally refers to the losers of a hockey game, who, in pre-Zamboni times, would have to hose the rink down once the game was done. Now it’s a synonym for “loser” — but with a particularly Canadian flavour.

Plenty of fights have been started over that word. Plenty of people take serious exception to its use. Is it hate speech? It could be but only in a certain context.

Look, I am not a proponent of using any of the millions of derogatory words. I have played in a all black blues band all my life and I am well aware of how many black feel.

Discrimination is rampant across all races of people and black people have suffered more than most. Well, if you exclude the American Indians and the Jewish.

What is insulting is having some jerk taking video in the middle of the night of some drunk guy and using it to try to destroy a man's life, plus his kid, plus his wife/girlfriend.

I can also guarantee this thread never was and never will be about music.

Cheers,

Billy

"No More Bystanders: Why It’s Time for Country Music Fans to Step Up"


https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-country/morgan-wallen-tj-osborne-country-music-racism-1124539/

It's never surprising how many old white guys get upset when you bring up racism. They try to immediately shut you up. The responses are predictable about how "it's not that bad" or "it's better than it used to be" or my favorite, "the media is blowing it all out of proportion!"

Everyone on the forum remembers Mac, (except for some newbies), and we became good long distance friends over the years. What a few may not know is that Mac is black.

During more more than a few of our marathon phone calls to each other we discussed racism. It was the first time in my life where I'd been fortunate enough to hear first hand about the personal experiences of a black man who lived through the 50's, 60's, 70's and forward.

People need to stop dismissing racism as if it was something from the past.

It's alive and well, even in the music industry.

Absolutely!




You're absolutely right - speech in itself is completely dependent on context. You could call me an idiot and I'd probably feel insulted, but if my lover called me an idiot it might feel endearing. That's exactly how it is with the N-word - black people have taken back that word and use it to empower themselves, but if a white person like me uses that word it would be horribly insulting, racist, and can constitute hate speech. You can't take words like the N-word and say "oh these people are using it, it's ok for me to use it" because I'm certain you would be angry if a person of colour used a racial slur against white people. Words like "Hoser" can't be compared to the N-word in this case, because Hoser has never been a racial slur.

Drunk people are not excused their actions (while driving, for example), so they should not be excused for their words either. Words matter, and most often what comes out while drunk is their true feelings. Hate while drunk is still hate, much like violence while drunk is still violence.

Politics and music go hand in hand, all the time. Rock and roll was built on politics - so was rap, metal, jazz, country, etc. Regardless, this thread is in the "off topic" section, so non-music discussion is allowed and encouraged here.




Thank you Bob! Racism is as much in the present as in the past - let's not make Racism a part of the future.

Maybe when we see this behavior in others it stirs up something deep in our subconscious past that we don't like about ourselves, are we externalizing, using the other party to punish ourselves, maybe political parties have been involved in the KKK in the past, so maybe they project there involvement onto other parties ?

apologize me but i have to make and OT in a Off Topic section...!..:
this is for Larry:
i'm very interested in a yr old topic on the forum:
https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=409117
i'd like to know if there sould be a way NOT to have the soundbanks placed in the default path:
c\programdata
i'm on desktop win 10 home 64 20h2
cause i've a portable vers. of gp7 and i want to have it fully portable so not to have installed the soundbanks in their default path c\programdata;
i see that if i move the arobas music folder ,in which there is the sub folder soundbanks,
which is in c\programdata
and i put it in my portable gp7 folder that i've placed in my N\ ,partition internal hdd of my pc,
then i'm not able to hear any sound at all,
then if i re-place it in the default c\programdata path i'm able again to hear the sound,
so my question is:
is there a workaround…??..if yes i pray you to explain it to me..
thxs so much indeed in advance
cheers

end OT
i apologize to you all for my incursion...
pls forgive me..