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Posted By: DrDan New Class of Music Software - Unify - 03/06/21 08:18 PM

https://www.pluginguru.com/products/unify-standard/

I had several of my colleagues recommend UNIFY to me over the past year. I looked at it and at first thought, no way, it is way to complicated looking and what will it do for me. But they persisted and today I dropped the $90.

After a couple hours I now have a whole new appreciation for the learning curve associated with BIAB and what a newbee has to deal with. UNIFY reminds me so much of the complexity of BIAB. Countless menus, strange terminology, hidden workflows, but I have discovered that the power and rewards of pushing lots of buttons is both compelling and overwhelming. This is essentially the mother of all VST hosts permitting one to layer patches and libraries of sounds.

UNIFY, like Scaler, represents a new wave of music making applications. In direct comparison, BIAB happens to be 20 years ahead of its time. These new apps approach the similar power and complexity of this class of software. Definitely a class of their own.

Can't give UNIFY a "full recommendation" just yet as the learning curve looks steep and it will take time, but I do advise you to have an open mind and take a look at some of the many videos out there to see if you agree with my perception about this class of music apps. The picture below shows how I have begun to insert my orchestral libraries into the host - the results are awesome.

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Posted By: MountainSide Re: New Class of Music Software - Unify - 03/06/21 09:12 PM
Hi DAn. Ok, I gone through several of "Skippy's" video and I think that I might understand this. You can layer multiple VST's and play them all together from one "unified" piece of software...is this right?

Here's my question: can I then take the unified multi-VSTi layer "patch" and use that as a single VST in BIAB or RB or is this a strictly standalone application?

Jeff
Posted By: DrDan Re: New Class of Music Software - Unify - 03/06/21 09:26 PM
Originally Posted By: MountainSide

Here's my question: can I then take the unified multi-VSTi layer "patch" and use that as a single VST in BIAB or RB or is this a strictly standalone application?

Jeff


Ya, I have a lot of questions now also. But UNIFY comes as a Standalone, VST3 and VST2 plugins. So you can put it on a track in your DAW then load any number of VSTs (including BIAB-VST, which I just did) into it. Beyond that it is all discovery for me at this time. I will keep you updated if this pans out.
Posted By: Rustyspoon# Re: New Class of Music Software - Unify - 03/07/21 12:23 AM
Dan, so speaking in simple terms it is a VST based "VST host"..
In many ways similar to "minihost modular" with convenience of upfront mixer but disadvantaged by simplicity of visual chain connection?

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P.S. Sorry, topic steal. Dan, I was sure you would find this post entertaining:
https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=643726#Post643726
If you missed it, knowing that you are a fan of Scaler, I suggest you look into it. While Scaler is a fine little app with great team of coders, I found Harmony Navigator a bit more interesting in some ways.
Posted By: DrDan Re: New Class of Music Software - Unify - 03/07/21 12:53 PM
Originally Posted By: Rustyspoon#
Dan, I was sure you would find this post entertaining:
https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=643726#Post643726
If you missed it, knowing that you are a fan of Scaler, I suggest you look into it. While Scaler is a fine little app with great team of coders, I found Harmony Navigator a bit more interesting in some ways.


Yes I did review your earlier thread. My conclusion was I have enough on my plate at the time, so I put this on my list to check out further when time permits. I am afraid UNIFY stepped in front of this in the line. But that is how things happen. I had watched UNIFY for a long time convinced I did not want to go there and then things happened. Funny how timing is everything. So glad we are able to share these items. Thanks much.
Posted By: eddie1261 Re: New Class of Music Software - Unify - 03/07/21 11:01 PM
You lost me at $90. It would be different if I made money with this stuff, but I do this for my own amusement. But if it suits your needs and you have money to spend, it seems like a good thing for you.
Posted By: lambada Re: New Class of Music Software - Unify - 03/11/21 05:35 AM
So ready to press the button.:-(
Posted By: musiclover Re: New Class of Music Software - Unify - 03/11/21 08:17 AM
Seems an interesting and productive tool Dan, thanks for letting us know, and keep us up to date on it.

As regards spending money on musical stuff, most of us can talk ourselves round and convince ourselves to buy if we feel we really need it.

Whats up with you Edddie, I thought your catchphrase is "He who has the most toys wins"

Or does that only apply to guitars, how and you and your new Thomanns friend "Woody" getting on?
Posted By: Will Josef Re: New Class of Music Software - Unify - 03/15/21 09:48 PM
I can highly recommend Unify. I've used since it came out in early 2020 and it is actually much easier to use than it initially looks like.
The fact that you can combine all your plugins in one place to make new interesting sounds and patches is just so useful and inspiring. It is great for live performances as well!

Unify was for sure my best buy last year.

Will
Posted By: DrDan Re: New Class of Music Software - Unify - 03/15/21 11:27 PM
Thats good to hear Will. I am on the learning curve but I see the potential.
Posted By: DrDan Re: New Class of Music Software - Unify - 03/21/21 10:56 AM
So this guy (Skippy) from Unify puts together frequent live promotional shows (at least weekly) to hawk Unify. I general move quickly through them to learn a little more about what this product does.

Yesterday the topic was intended to introduce the current free Unify update V1.4 so I dialed in. But then he announces he will have some friends of his sharing in on the session. So in classic Zoom style the screen stated to fill up with "music royalty". I was star struck! This guy knows some very famous musicians and movers and shakers in the sound industry. You may have heard Herbie sit and chat in the past, but what about Jordan? I really enjoyed this informal candid conversation about music and the pandemic. Mic levels were a bit of a problem at the beginning (a weird twist of irony) but get better with time.

Livestream Chat with Herbie Hancock, Jordan Rudess, Steve Porcaro + more!



Set aside some time for this since they were all having such a good time, despite efforts to end the chat to get to the V4 launch, - no one wanted to end the fun.

Posted By: rharv Re: New Class of Music Software - Unify - 03/21/21 01:49 PM
Yeah, this is pretty cool.
Thanks
Posted By: DrDan Re: New Class of Music Software - Unify - 03/23/21 02:25 PM
If you still don't know what Unify is, this is one of the more basic intros.

Posted By: DrDan Re: New Class of Music Software - Unify - 09/04/21 09:56 AM
The $10 OFF Labor Day Unify Sale is On Now!
To celebrate the release of Unify 1.6 PLUS they are offering a chance to save $10 on any purchase. Only until Monday Night at Midnight!

Posted By: 90 dB Re: New Class of Music Software - Unify - 09/04/21 12:33 PM
Dan, this looks very interesting. I've been using my old Sonar X3, but Reaper as well. I have plugins that just won't load in Sonar or Reaper properly. Have you had experience using this in different DAWs?


Regards,

Bob
Posted By: DrDan Re: New Class of Music Software - Unify - 09/04/21 01:03 PM
Originally Posted By: 90 dB
Dan, this looks very interesting. I've been using my old Sonar X3, but Reaper as well. I have plugins that just won't load in Sonar or Reaper properly. Have you had experience using this in different DAWs?


Regards,

Bob


I only have used Reaper and Reaper handles all my plugs so truth be told, I mostly use Unify as a Standalone for my live playing. There is a free demo but the free version is limited and does not allow you to integrate your own plugins as best I recall.
Posted By: DrDan Re: New Class of Music Software - Unify - 10/09/21 10:26 AM
The sale for Unify is back on for this weekend.

Here is a $10 Bill!
Save $10 on everything except Chill GTR Phrases V1.

Use Promo Code take10off and you'll save $10 off from
whatever is in your cart!


Sale Ends Sunday Night at Midnight PDT!
Grab some new inspiration if needed!
Posted By: bloc-head Re: New Class of Music Software - Unify - 10/09/21 10:07 PM
This looks interesting... don't know if this is something I need, or or just want... it's really not about the money, but rather the time... ... ... Here we go again.
Posted By: Gsus Re: New Class of Music Software - Unify - 10/13/21 11:49 PM
For me it is the best if you work with midi in band in a box. Multitimbric and sounds on demand. .Tested and works fine in biab 2020 and standalone.
Apart from offering much more. In my opinion they knew what was needed and they did it.

Tip: create some "layers" named "empty unify", It's in "add instrument" and in "operations"- "open plug-ing GUI" assign each one your favorite presets from the unify library or mix yours with them, haute cuisine.

Great buy.
Cheers
Posted By: Gsus Re: New Class of Music Software - Unify - 10/31/21 02:12 AM
40% discount on Unify libraries for halloween.
greetings
Posted By: Janice & Bud Re: New Class of Music Software - Unify - 10/31/21 09:44 AM
You guys amaze me.

BiaB (at a basic RT/RD/MST level), Logic Pro and Izotope/Waves plugins (used as single instances) are all I can wrap my old brain around. I can no longer struggle up those steep learning curves … rather struggle up a hill hiking or biking smile

Bud
Posted By: eddie1261 Re: New Class of Music Software - Unify - 10/31/21 01:51 PM
Originally Posted By: musiclover
Whats up with you Eddie, I thought your catchphrase is "He who has the most toys wins"

Or does that only apply to guitars, how and you and your new Thomanns friend "Woody" getting on?


Yeah. If it is not a tangible and tactile item, I don't need it.

Woody is really hard to play. It has a wider neck than any of my guitars and I have these little dwarf hands. My hands are wide and strong but I have very short fingers. However, if I arrange things right I can play it, and it sounds REALLY good.

Studio is right now in the middle of a redo so nothing is plugged in. Painted 3 walls and the ceiling a really nice bright gray yesterday. The 4th wall where guitars will hang gets flat black and I will tape off and paint it this week. Those guitars MAY have to bleed over into a second wall and I will make arrangements as needed. My room has "barn" ceilings so the only walls hat are 8 feet high are the opposing walls, but it will work out somehow. Carpet will get installed Nov 29th. Track lighting with 6 cans up top.

THEN I can get back to writing mediocre songs in a really comfortable room that doesn't look like "I'll just use this room".

And maybe buy more stuff!!
Posted By: Planobilly Re: New Class of Music Software - Unify - 11/01/21 01:54 AM
Eddie, call when you finish. I'll send you a housewarming gift, perhaps one of my famous bottles of Mad Dog 2020...lol Best to only drink in a real emergency...lol

Billy
Posted By: eddie1261 Re: New Class of Music Software - Unify - 11/01/21 05:27 AM
Originally Posted By: Planobilly
perhaps one of my famous bottles of Mad Dog 2020


Send me a 2 liter bottle of diet Pepsi. I tamed that mad dog in 1993 and haven't patted his head since! grin
Posted By: DrDan Re: New Class of Music Software - Unify - 02/18/22 10:43 AM
Free Update hit this morning.

Unify 1.8 is here New Update includes – RANDOM Patch Selection! Color on the keyboard to show key ranges for drum kits, splits and more – Search has been overhauled to now be able to search and display Categories/Tabs/Comments for just a specific library instead of always searching ALL libraries –

https://www.pluginguru.com/products/unify-standard/

Unify at its best.... grin I love in the intro text "...now you can sound like this." Ya right, in my dreams.

Posted By: eddie1261 Re: New Class of Music Software - Unify - 02/18/22 11:43 AM
Jordan Rudess and the 6 inch long fingers!! I love when he shows his warm ups on video, playing things to get his fingers loose that are better then anything I have ever player (or will). When Sherinian left Dream Theater I thought "WHERE will they ever find somebody to replace THIS guy?"

Well, they did...
Posted By: DrDan Re: New Class of Music Software - Unify - 03/05/22 11:39 AM
Originally Posted By: MusicStudent
Free Update hit this morning.

Unify 1.8 is here New Update includes – RANDOM Patch Selection! Color on the keyboard to show key ranges for drum kits, splits and more – Search has been overhauled to now be able to search and display Categories/Tabs/Comments for just a specific library instead of always searching ALL libraries –

https://www.pluginguru.com/products/unify-standard/

Unify at its best.... grin I love in the intro text "...now you can sound like this." Ya right, in my dreams.



DiscoverStation (a Unify Library) is on sale now for the weekend at 40% off.
Posted By: AudioTrack Re: New Class of Music Software - Unify - 03/05/22 04:24 PM
It seems like an amazing product, but you are right: That's what it can sound like when Jordan Rudess is performing wink
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