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Posted By: Planobilly Wow, windows 10 is pretty smart - 04/26/21 09:32 AM
There is something called ALT codes. For example to correctly write in spanish the word for "he" the alt code is 0201. Press alt 0201 returns É (Él)
Press alt 0128 returns €

The ALT codes can be used for the French, German, Italian, Portuguese and Spanish languages only.

This also brings up another question. How many of you speak and write in a language other than English and standard notation...lol

Billy
Posted By: AudioTrack Re: Wow, windows 10 is pretty smart - 04/26/21 09:45 AM
ALT codes have been around a long time. Your multilingual abilities will be very useful here smile

Me? I mainly speak three languages: USA English, English English, and Australian English. Well OK, and a very little Mandarin, Italian, Greek and Malaysian, but I am proficient mostly in those three main English languages. wink
Posted By: Planobilly Re: Wow, windows 10 is pretty smart - 04/26/21 10:01 AM
LOL...but do you speak standard notation?...lol C++??

I have to get off this computer to finish. I do have to keep Eddie in check....big job...lol

Billy
Posted By: Matt Finley Re: Wow, windows 10 is pretty smart - 04/26/21 10:04 AM
I know notation pretty well - I’ve made money from it for 50 years. Do computer languages count?
Posted By: Planobilly Re: Wow, windows 10 is pretty smart - 04/26/21 10:19 AM
Originally Posted By: Matt Finley
I know notation pretty well - I’ve made money from it for 50 years. Do computer languages count?


Oh, yes for sure Matt! You get all A's for C languages. Not so much for for LISP programming...lol

On a less funny note I was looking at some of the vexations of the many types of less than standard notation...I would need more than 50 years to learn all that!!

Billy
Posted By: eddie1261 Re: Wow, windows 10 is pretty smart - 04/26/21 10:51 AM
I speak Mexican (food). I speak Italian (food). I speak German (food).
Posted By: MarioD Re: Wow, windows 10 is pretty smart - 04/26/21 11:05 AM
Originally Posted By: eddie1261
I speak Mexican (food). I speak Italian (food). I speak German (food).


Hot damn Eddie we speak the same languages!
Posted By: eddie1261 Re: Wow, windows 10 is pretty smart - 04/26/21 12:20 PM
Pasta aglio e olio!!!
Posted By: Guitarhacker Re: Wow, windows 10 is pretty smart - 04/26/21 02:12 PM
Shoot... that ain't nothin'......

True story..... your phone is listening to you.

I stopped at a convenient store, went in and picked up a Heath Candy bar. Back in the car, my wife asked why I bought it... I said, I've always liked HEATH CANDY BARS and just felt like having one. End of story? not quite.

The very next day, what do you think Google ads pushed into my news feed? If you guessed HEATH CANDY BARS.... well, you'd be exactly right. I mean what is the chance of that happening by coincidence?
Posted By: eddie1261 Re: Wow, windows 10 is pretty smart - 04/26/21 03:42 PM
Interesting. Did you pay with a credit card? (Since Covid I will not handle money. Even if I go into a Dollar Tree and spend 1 dollar I pay with a credit card. And please nobody say I am paying interest on a dollar. I pay to $0 as soon as things post and don't see interest charges.) Step 2 is to shut off your phone before you get to the store and leave it off. Buy a Hershey bar (with almonds!) this time but never say Hershey even after you turn the phone back on. I see this claim A LOT but nobody will ever test the theory, and I have never had this happen to me. I mean, logic would say that if you drive through Arby's and get curly fries your phone would hear you order them. so this would happen for every product you mention when you have your phone with you. Alexa and Echo devices keep your commands in a file but A) you can erase them at the end of every day and B) do you really think it is intrusive that some ear in the sky knows you turned your lights on or off? I don't understand the outrage people have about this kind of thing. I always dismiss it as either people who don't understand technology and the internet, or are just mad and want to have something to complain about.

SO much of this is about perspective. Let's just say you are out on a search and rescue event. You have a heart attack and fall into a ravine or something extreme like that. In that circumstance I WANT my phone's location services to allow someone to track my location. (Just FYI the location services on my phone are OFF just because it saves one drib and 2 drabs of power.)

So I'd be really interested in investigating what caused the ear in the sky to know about your Heath bars. Because to further apply logic, if you sit and watch TV with your phone nearby, logic says that if your phone is listening you should get email from every company that advertises. And that may be the case. I don't know. I can only say that in my observation it is not that extreme. If the world knows to send you ads because you paid with a credit card, that's a whole new hallway to travel down.

I love puzzles like this!
Posted By: DebMurphy Re: Wow, windows 10 is pretty smart - 04/26/21 05:06 PM
My sister and niece were talking about boxes. In person. Nothing exceptional.

Next day, their feeds were full of different boxes they may like.

The phone is too nosy.

...Deb
Posted By: eddie1261 Re: Wow, windows 10 is pretty smart - 04/26/21 05:31 PM
Deb, can you tell me how you are defining "feed"? Facebook, Twitter, web based email like mail.com and juno and such that rely on ads to stay free, your local newspaper, anything with a paywall? All of the above? I have so many ad blockers running in my browser that I don't see a lot of ads. And maybe I don't have the same grasp on this because I don't see them. I see SO many people complain about ads interrupting videos on youtube. I have never seen one. I DO get targeted ads once I have browsed for something, but that's mainly because Google and Facebook are evil corporations that survive on greed. When I was looking at Jazzmasters I saw them on Facebook forever, so apparently Sweetwater pays Facebook well to slam their ads once you have visited. And I am not going to delete cookies every 45 seconds because some (most) cookies I don't care about. And to go through and clear just selected cookies would be a full time job, so whatever. Ads can be there. I can ignore them. I learned that skill from 3 wives who ignored me for a collective 13 1/2 years.
Posted By: Simon - PG Music Re: Wow, windows 10 is pretty smart - 04/26/21 07:23 PM
Originally Posted By: VideoTrack
ALT codes have been around a long time. Your multilingual abilities will be very useful here smile

Me? I mainly speak three languages: USA English, English English, and Australian English. Well OK, and a very little Mandarin, Italian, Greek and Malaysian, but I am proficient mostly in those three main English languages. wink


You forgot Canadian English!

Originally Posted By: eddie1261
I speak Mexican (food). I speak Italian (food). I speak German (food).


I speak all of those, as well as Canadian (food) because I'm sure you'll all agree that poutine is delicious.


Realistically, I pretty well only speak English (preferably English English as I've got triple citizenship for Canada, England, and Ireland), though I can read enough French to get by. I took some Spanish in high school as well, but I don't remember enough of it to be useful.
Posted By: rharv Re: Wow, windows 10 is pretty smart - 04/26/21 07:33 PM
Doesn't sound like it would taste good at all <grin>
Who named it??
Posted By: musiclover Re: Wow, windows 10 is pretty smart - 04/26/21 07:46 PM
Seems like trouble ahead if you eat too much of it.

https://www.thestar.com/life/health_wellness/nutrition/2010/11/18/the_dish_poutine_has_double_the_trouble_of_the_infamous_kfc_double.html
Posted By: AudioTrack Re: Wow, windows 10 is pretty smart - 04/27/21 02:28 AM
Originally Posted By: Simon - PG Music
You forgot Canadian English!

Oh, yes, my bad. I'd forgotten aboot that.
Posted By: DebMurphy Re: Wow, windows 10 is pretty smart - 04/27/21 06:20 AM
Facebook and email. My sister limits what she is using. Not sure about her daughter. They thought it was odd because they were talking about boxes not searching for any.

I do know that recently I searched for something nice for baby shower I went to. I then spent a lot of time getting emails for cute baby clothes, toys, etc. Same for Facebook.

...Deb
Posted By: AudioTrack Re: Wow, windows 10 is pretty smart - 04/27/21 06:30 AM
The big learning here is that these products are not your friend. You are their friend. They don't provide all these "free services" for nothing. They get paid clearly. Look at the wealth of Google, Facebook etc.

Yes, they like you more than you actually know.
Posted By: Planobilly Re: Wow, windows 10 is pretty smart - 04/27/21 08:01 AM
I am not sure I understand all the drama over facebook or anyone tracking what I do. I am in south Florida and I can send you the GPS coordinates if you would like to have them...lol

I don't buy anything based on ads on the internet or TV or Radio.

My banking information is in my head, not on my computer.

I am well aware of the extent corporate America's consistent pressure to sell me the three legal drugs, tobacco, alcohol, and sugar. I was able to stop the first two...still working on the sugar thing...lol

I am not wanted by the legal system, my life is more or less an open book, anything anyone wants to know just ask.

All my X's live in Texas so I feel pretty safe...lol

I would be very happy for Facebook to send me ads for stuff I actually want and am looking to buy. They are way behind the curve with me. They send me ads for stuff I have already bought.

They are certainly not smart enough to know that my electric pencil sharpener has failed and I need to order another one.

Most people would not understand why I logged onto the last 500 web sites. Pretty boring stuff. Dental cost in Romania??? Who would have an interest in that information? Only other dental companies in other parts of the world. They sent me ads but I had done my homework and found one the most modern clinics in the world in Romania and saved myself about $10,000 for dental work for my wife.

I mean this is fascinating stuff right...my spending habits and whereabouts Jezz...give me a break.

I am going downstairs for another cup of coffee if anyone has an interest in tracking my movements. Be advised if you are going to listen in on all the audio at my house I curse a lot in several different languages, mostly at the TV...lol

Billy
John Prine-Illegal smile

Well, I sat down in my closet with all my overalls
Tryin' to get away from all the ears inside my walls
I dreamed the police heard everything I thought, what then?
Well I went to court and the judge's name was Hoffman...lol...lol

https://youtu.be/CDrdD3wrVqQ
Posted By: TRYUK Re: Wow, windows 10 is pretty smart - 04/27/21 10:59 AM
Living in the UK I obviously do UK english along with US, Canadian and Australian english. Being a pretty small island what we do have is a lot of dialects, often only 20 miles or so apart. Understanding some of the broader dialects is not easy even for a Brit.
Posted By: MarioD Re: Wow, windows 10 is pretty smart - 04/27/21 11:05 AM
Originally Posted By: DSM
.................

I do know that recently I searched for something nice for baby shower I went to. I then spent a lot of time getting emails for cute baby clothes, toys, etc. Same for Facebook.

...Deb


Deb, that's nothing. Although I am not on any social platforms nor do I use a smart phone I do a lot of ordering on the Internet. However I order for myself, my wife, my daughter, and my sister-in-law (I have the most secure system of all of them) so I get all kinds of ads. Some must think that I am the biggest cross-dresser east of the Mississippi River grin
Posted By: eddie1261 Re: Wow, windows 10 is pretty smart - 04/27/21 11:40 AM
Originally Posted By: MarioD
Some must think that I am the biggest cross-dresser east of the Mississippi River.


And many of us knew before this revelation...

As far as targeted ads, let me share this story and see who gets it.

A couple of years ago, when I was going to buy my trailer, I called the manufacturer and got an exact measurement from back to front of tongue and between the outside of the wheel wells. When my friend was here we went to the garage and measured to see if that thing would fit sideways in my garage if I wiggled it to get it in there. Length worked out that I had 5 inches to spare. Width, however, was too deep so I would not be able to back my car in far enough that the garage door would still close. I softly cursed as I said "I guess I have to pull it alongside the driveway, which is okay because it will have a solar panel on it and it should stay in the sun anyway."

My friend said "Isn't it great that our lives are SO good that THIS kind of thing is a problem for us?"

From that, take this. Most of us have many instruments and capable home studios. Is some web page running and ad for Pampers REALLY a problem? That is in no way tied to any kind of "privacy" issue as most make it. If your phone hears you buy a Heath bar, does that allow anybody to track your location and get the pin to your credit card?

WHY is this world so angry that people look for reasons to be mad ab out something? Unless you are Brain from "Pinky and the Brain" and you are planning "to take over the world" who cares The same people that complain about "my phone listens to me" will happily sit in a restaurant and take a phone call on speaker.

I'd also like to share this. I was walking the dog and up at the end of my street was a guy I know well enough to wave to loading suitcases into the car. And with a laugh I said "Ah. She finally wised up and tossed you out, eh?" And he laughed and told me (after his laugh) "Nah. We're heading down to Florida to see how much we can see in some of the parks since Covid has the attendance limited everywhere in the world." And I asked "So a day down, a day back, what are you staying, 4-5 days?" He told me 4. Now, were I the type that is into nefarious activity, in that short conversation I now know that their house will be empty for 6 days, and I could call "my boys" to kick the back door in and rob him. So what did more damage, his phone sending him ads based on key words it heard or that 45 second social engineering conversation?

If you accept that your phone is listening to you, it is not RECORDING you. It is listening for keywords that relate to products sold by people who have paid to have their word entered into a database. So in Herb's example, Hershey would have paid to have the names of their 80 something candy bars made by Hershey, noted the MAC address of the phone, which gives them the name of the person who owns it, which gives them a related email address, and then targeted ads are sent. Nobody knows it's Herb. They just know that some email address holder bought a Heath bar on some phone while using some MAC address. The step that people assume is that your phone is recording every word you say as if they are gathering intel to arrest you for something. I mean, c'mon now. Those are probably the same people who think the Covid vaccine contains something that allows some master of spy technology can sit at a screen and track your every step.

Posted By: Simon - PG Music Re: Wow, windows 10 is pretty smart - 04/28/21 08:08 PM
Originally Posted By: VideoTrack
Originally Posted By: Simon - PG Music
You forgot Canadian English!

Oh, yes, my bad. I'd forgotten aboot that.


Tanks fer that eh?

Originally Posted By: TRYUK
Living in the UK I obviously do UK english along with US, Canadian and Australian english. Being a pretty small island what we do have is a lot of dialects, often only 20 miles or so apart. Understanding some of the broader dialects is not easy even for a Brit.


Even harder for half a Brit like myself. I've got family in Devon, London, Edinburgh, and Galway, and probably more around the UK than I'd ever know about. Takes at least the first couple days of a visit before I stop asking them to repeat themselves.
Posted By: DebMurphy Re: Wow, windows 10 is pretty smart - 04/29/21 06:28 AM
Thanks for the laugh!

...Deb
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