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Posted By: jannesan You Don't Know Me - 03/10/23 01:25 PM
You Don't Know Me

Still working on a new song, but before that, here is a song I wrote last fall. It was inspired by a very small event, I saw someone who looked like someone I knew and I started to think about how it would feel if someone pretended not to recognize me anymore.

For vocals, I tried to get out of Synthesizer V Kevin as much as possible. And I tried to make Synthesizer V Solaria to sound like a wicked lady. I don't know whether I was successful, but it was nice practice with the editor anyway.

BIAB provided once again great instruments for this flamenco dance arrangement with some metal flavor.

RealDrums:
RetroPop^01-a:Bass, HiHat, b:Bass, Snare
RumbaFlamencaPerc^2-Sstick,Ride
Metal8thsDoubleTime
Loop:
House-Techno-Trance\House - crunchy_120_b drums ev16.wav

RealTracks:
2578:Bass, Synth, RetroPop Ev16 085
671: Organ, B3, Background Southern Ev 120
1435:Guitar, Electric, Rhythm JazzFunkGroovinChords Ev16 110
2583:Guitar, Electric, Rhythm Punk Ev 165
3240:Guitar, Nylon, Rhythm RumbaFlamencaFast16ths Ev16 120
3312:Guitar, Electric, Soloist Metal12-key Wild Ev 120 (WildCresc)

Mixed in Cakewalk by BandLab with effects: VocalSynth 2, Neutron 4, Ozone 10, Neoverb, Melodyne for modifying the soloist
Vocals: Synthesizer V Kevin (lead), Synthesizer V Solaria (backing)

Lyrics:

You don't know me
you look away
hello or hi
you don't say.
You don't know me
you turn your head
not to me
to the crowd instead.
I'm a stranger
you want to ignore
I'm not worth noting for.

By the square
where you stand
maybe shaking
the smoking hand.
Beneath the hat
eyes ashamed
not prepared
to take the blame.
Maybe I should pass
look into you
to make you feel awkward
say: goodbyes overdue?

You don't know me
you look away
hello or hi
you don't say.
I don't know you
I tell apart
the look's the same
but not the heart
You're a stranger
reminding me of
someone who's still my love.

Who are you
thought we met
we had good time
without regret.
Perhaps I'm wrong
there just was
a reaction
but no cause.
I'm so frustrated
I need to shout
at a likely outsider
what I'm angry about.

You don't know me
you look away
hello or hi
you don't say.
I don't know you
I tell apart
the look's the same
but not the heart
You're a stranger
reminding me of
someone who's still my love.

Hope I'm mistaken
no-one could be so unkind (I could be so unkind)
or maybe you have (maybe I have)
a bipolar mind.

You don't know me
you look away
hello or hi
you don't say.
I don't know you
I tell apart
the look's the same
but not the heart
You're a stranger
reminding me of
someone who's still my love.
----------------------------
Janne
Posted By: Deej56 Re: You Don't Know Me - 03/10/23 03:50 PM
Janne,

Wow, that’s some BIAB style and you use it really well here. Great 80’s dance vibe to this . . . and you continue to do some wonderful things with the vocaloids. Although from a production standpoint I wonder if the lead vocal sits as well in the mix as it could (it’s maybe a tad too . . . metallic?) . . . just listening on the laptop this morning, so it could be that . . . see what others think. Wow, love those BGVs with Solaria . . . and that guitar solo is just brilliant. Really cool song . . . catchy, creative and magnetic.

My best to you,

Deej
Posted By: PeterF Re: You Don't Know Me - 03/10/23 05:27 PM
Janne

First off a pretty wild bunch of RTs. Very interesting and cleverly conceived.

Nice programming of Synth V - Solaria sounds very good in this context.

Good innovative work all round.

Peter
Posted By: MarioD Re: You Don't Know Me - 03/10/23 09:24 PM
Janne, this sounds great to these ears.
You have mastered those vocal synths as they sound real.
Super mix - I'll bet that took a good amount of time.
Love that groove.
You picked the perfect lead guitar RTs
Excellent song.
Posted By: BabuMusic Re: You Don't Know Me - 03/11/23 10:52 AM
Ok, well, I know OF you, Janne, and one thing I know is I'm gonna love every song you post. I really don't know what it takes to get the most out of the synth voices, but I'd say you were very successful in squeezing the most out of Kevin, and, yes, Solaria sounds like someone you wouldn't want to mess with.

Man, what a driving sound. Definitely something someone would notice, and cannot look away. Yeah, I wouldn't know you if I bumped into you on the street, but, man, I know you are good at this stuff. I'm envisioning this performed live. A terrific production, Janne. Way too much energy to ignore.
Posted By: rayc Re: You Don't Know Me - 03/11/23 06:55 PM
Surprisingly UP.
The mix is solid and at a tangent from the narrative - then there's the solo which goes in another direction entirely - so stays interesting.
I did note that the rhyme:
"you want to ignore
I'm not worth noting for."
Works on a sonic level but "noting for" is odd.
Nicely done synth Vs.
Posted By: Rustyspoon# Re: You Don't Know Me - 03/11/23 08:26 PM
Janne,
now the hard part of selling it to Ricky Martin starts.

Wild groove, cool subject. I am amazed how well you train your robo singers. Good, clear mix and listens well. Thank you for sharing.

Misha.
Posted By: jannesan Re: You Don't Know Me - 03/12/23 01:24 PM
Originally Posted By: Deej56
Wow, that’s some BIAB style and you use it really well here. Great 80’s dance vibe to this . . . and you continue to do some wonderful things with the vocaloids. Although from a production standpoint I wonder if the lead vocal sits as well in the mix as it could (it’s maybe a tad too . . . metallic?) . . . just listening on the laptop this morning, so it could be that . . . see what others think. Wow, love those BGVs with Solaria . . . and that guitar solo is just brilliant. Really cool song . . . catchy, creative and magnetic.

My best to you,

Deej


Thanks Deej for your very pleasant review smile I think I used quite much breath setting and maybe some distortion in the mix to get some aggressive tone to his voice, maybe I have added bit too much. I agree about that guitar solo, I wish people would use those metal guitars more often smile

Janne
Posted By: jannesan Re: You Don't Know Me - 03/12/23 01:25 PM
Originally Posted By: PeterF
Janne

First off a pretty wild bunch of RTs. Very interesting and cleverly conceived.

Nice programming of Synth V - Solaria sounds very good in this context.

Good innovative work all round.

Peter


Thanks Peter, I really appreciate your heartwarming comment smile

Janne
Posted By: vicarn Re: You Don't Know Me - 03/12/23 04:04 PM
Yes Janne. It's pretty wild and a lot going on.
Nice guitar solo.

Vic
Posted By: dcuny Re: You Don't Know Me - 03/12/23 09:42 PM
Nice rhythmic arrangement - and good job making Kevin sound less like Kevin.

Fun listen! laugh
Posted By: BlueAttitude Re: You Don't Know Me - 03/13/23 08:48 AM
Man, lots going on with this one, Janne! I couldn't produce a track like this if my life depended on it I think eek

Really well done on every level, vocals sound great, heck, everything sounds great.

Well done!
Posted By: jannesan Re: You Don't Know Me - 03/14/23 04:18 PM
Originally Posted By: MarioD
Janne, this sounds great to these ears.
You have mastered those vocal synths as they sound real.
Super mix - I'll bet that took a good amount of time.
Love that groove.
You picked the perfect lead guitar RTs
Excellent song.


Thanks Mario, I appreciate your positive feedback smile Glad to hear that the synth vocalists sound real, I'm so used to their sound that I'm deaf to any unreal sections.

Janne
Posted By: jannesan Re: You Don't Know Me - 03/16/23 04:07 PM
Originally Posted By: BabuMusic
Ok, well, I know OF you, Janne, and one thing I know is I'm gonna love every song you post. I really don't know what it takes to get the most out of the synth voices, but I'd say you were very successful in squeezing the most out of Kevin, and, yes, Solaria sounds like someone you wouldn't want to mess with.

Man, what a driving sound. Definitely something someone would notice, and cannot look away. Yeah, I wouldn't know you if I bumped into you on the street, but, man, I know you are good at this stuff. I'm envisioning this performed live. A terrific production, Janne. Way too much energy to ignore.


Thanks Marty for your funny and heartwarming review smile Sounds like a challenge that I should try to make a song you don't love wink

Janne
Posted By: jannesan Re: You Don't Know Me - 03/16/23 04:19 PM
Originally Posted By: rayc
Surprisingly UP.
The mix is solid and at a tangent from the narrative - then there's the solo which goes in another direction entirely - so stays interesting.
I did note that the rhyme:
"you want to ignore
I'm not worth noting for."
Works on a sonic level but "noting for" is odd.
Nicely done synth Vs.


Thanks Ray, I appreciate your kind comment smile Yep, I couldn't find a better way to rhyme with ignore and didn't see anything seriously wrong with "noting for". But I'll be more than happy if somebody knows how to fix that part to be linguistically correct smile

Janne

PS. Seems that Edge was updated and now its spell checker is broken, so I apologize any grammar errors...
Posted By: jannesan Re: You Don't Know Me - 03/16/23 04:20 PM
Originally Posted By: Rustyspoon#
Janne,
now the hard part of selling it to Ricky Martin starts.

Wild groove, cool subject. I am amazed how well you train your robo singers. Good, clear mix and listens well. Thank you for sharing.

Misha.


Thanks Misha for your positive feedback smile

Janne
Posted By: B.D.Thomas Re: You Don't Know Me - 03/16/23 04:36 PM
A little too busy for my personal taste, but you did a great job of arranging all the percussion elements into a transparent soundscape.
Great driving rhythm.
I would prefer the solo guitar to be less lo-fi to fit better with the rest, but that's my only nit.
Well done!
Posted By: Robertkc Re: You Don't Know Me - 03/16/23 05:15 PM
Janne,
An irresitible drive to this- love the flamenco guitar and layered percussion.
The lyric subject is more nuanced than the music and held my attention because of the contrast.
Great production and your vocaloid skills are in evidence.
Very cool music!

Robert
Posted By: Bass Thumper Re: You Don't Know Me - 03/16/23 05:59 PM
This is a fun upbeat song, very creative with Kevin and his girlfriend smile
And the lyrics express the awkward situation that sometimes arise.

An enjoyable listen, great job.
Posted By: justanoldmuso Re: You Don't Know Me - 03/16/23 08:07 PM
J.

really liked the 'groove' of this.

a very festive sound. this song kicks 'A' imho.

really liked the femme bgv's.

only thing i might suggested is a cleaner lead gtr sound picture. but thats personal taste.

happiness

om
Posted By: Janice & Bud Re: You Don't Know Me - 03/17/23 02:54 PM
Cool mashup!

Janice was envisioning a dance scene full of dancers in the street like one from the musical, West Side Story. smile

The soloist guitar matches the angry (or maybe unsettled) mood sound from the singers very well.

Well done with the singers and the mix.

That very small event inspired a very large production! smile

Impressive!

J&B
Posted By: Dewey_MI Re: You Don't Know Me - 03/17/23 03:03 PM
Great experiment to be sure! Cool South American groove.
Posted By: jannesan Re: You Don't Know Me - 03/18/23 03:08 PM
Originally Posted By: vicarn
Yes Janne. It's pretty wild and a lot going on.
Nice guitar solo.

Vic


Thanks Vic for your kind comment smile It is fun to make wilder and more energetic songs as a counterweight to lighter and slower songs. My next one will be lighter, I suppose...

Janne
Posted By: jannesan Re: You Don't Know Me - 03/20/23 04:15 PM
Originally Posted By: dcuny
Nice rhythmic arrangement - and good job making Kevin sound less like Kevin.

Fun listen! laugh


Thanks David for your kind feedback smile Glad to hear it didn't sound too much like normal Kevin, I used quite big gender and breathiness values. And lots of belt.

Janne
Posted By: jannesan Re: You Don't Know Me - 03/20/23 04:17 PM
Originally Posted By: BlueAttitude
Man, lots going on with this one, Janne! I couldn't produce a track like this if my life depended on it I think eek

Really well done on every level, vocals sound great, heck, everything sounds great.

Well done!


Thanks Dave, I appreciate your positive comment smile Glad you liked everything smile

Janne
Posted By: Derochette Re: You Don't Know Me - 03/21/23 06:58 AM
Hi jannesan,

I didn't know you in that flamenco style. Beautiful intensity and pleasant atmosphere in the rhythm. It's original. I don't know the synths you use but the sound is nice. Well done.

Kindly regard
Derochette
alias JaniJackFlash
Posted By: Scott C Re: You Don't Know Me - 03/21/23 10:34 PM
What a cool groove Janne. Song has so much energy. Love those vocaloids. What a cool way to develop a song. Excellent guitar solo. Well done.
Posted By: jannesan Re: You Don't Know Me - 03/22/23 02:31 PM
Originally Posted By: B.D.Thomas
A little too busy for my personal taste, but you did a great job of arranging all the percussion elements into a transparent soundscape.
Great driving rhythm.
I would prefer the solo guitar to be less lo-fi to fit better with the rest, but that's my only nit.
Well done!


Thanks B.D. for your kind comment smile I have no tempo limits, after 65 BPM song I gave you 130 BM song. And the next candidate will be 90 BPM, so I hope you get used to these sudden changes wink The lo-fi guitar was dirtier on purpose, for the sake of eruption of anger.

Janne
Posted By: jannesan Re: You Don't Know Me - 03/22/23 02:32 PM
Originally Posted By: Robertkc
Janne,
An irresitible drive to this- love the flamenco guitar and layered percussion.
The lyric subject is more nuanced than the music and held my attention because of the contrast.
Great production and your vocaloid skills are in evidence.
Very cool music!

Robert


Thanks Robert for your kind words, I'm glad you liked the drive smile

Janne
Posted By: jannesan Re: You Don't Know Me - 03/22/23 02:34 PM
Originally Posted By: Bass Thumper
This is a fun upbeat song, very creative with Kevin and his girlfriend smile
And the lyrics express the awkward situation that sometimes arise.

An enjoyable listen, great job.



Thumbs up for your positive comment, Mr. Thumper smile

Janne
Posted By: jannesan Re: You Don't Know Me - 03/27/23 11:52 AM
Originally Posted By: justanoldmuso
J.

really liked the 'groove' of this.

a very festive sound. this song kicks 'A' imho.

really liked the femme bgv's.

only thing i might suggested is a cleaner lead gtr sound picture. but thats personal taste.

happiness

om


Thanks om for your nice review smile Glad you liked the groove. Yep, the lead guitar sound is a matter of taste, I wanted it to be muddy to reflect the frustration of the story teller.

Janne
Posted By: jannesan Re: You Don't Know Me - 03/27/23 11:56 AM
Originally Posted By: Janice & Bud
Cool mashup!

Janice was envisioning a dance scene full of dancers in the street like one from the musical, West Side Story. smile

The soloist guitar matches the angry (or maybe unsettled) mood sound from the singers very well.

Well done with the singers and the mix.

That very small event inspired a very large production! smile

Impressive!

J&B


Thanks Janice and Bud for listen and comment, always pleasure to read how you have paid attention to the details smile That dance scene sounds interesting, I could use that for a video, although I feel that then the song should be more musical then, closer to West Side Story...

Janne
Posted By: jannesan Re: You Don't Know Me - 03/27/23 11:58 AM
Originally Posted By: Dewey_MI
Great experiment to be sure! Cool South American groove.


Thanks Dewey for listening and kindly commenting smile South American groove, interesting observation, maybe I should use more great Latin styles in BIAB.

Janne
Posted By: jannesan Re: You Don't Know Me - 03/27/23 12:00 PM
Originally Posted By: Derochette
Hi jannesan,

I didn't know you in that flamenco style. Beautiful intensity and pleasant atmosphere in the rhythm. It's original. I don't know the synths you use but the sound is nice. Well done.

Kindly regard
Derochette
alias JaniJackFlash


Thanks Derochette for your kind feedback smile Glad you liked the intensity of my song.

Janne
Posted By: animarorecords Re: You Don't Know Me - 03/28/23 03:19 AM
Janne,

A very enchanting fusion of flamenco and EDM.
The modulations are wonderful.
You're getting better at using vocal synths every day.
Your intention to make Synthesizer V Solaria to sound like a wicked lady is successfully done.
Enjoyed my listen a lot.

Best regards.

Shigeki Adachi
Posted By: dani48 Re: You Don't Know Me - 03/28/23 04:31 AM
Hi, Janne !


WOW ! This is absolutely
one of your best if not
even the best !

Those synths really sound
alive ....uh... AI !!!!
Maybe we can start retiring
as vocalists ?


a masterpiece , nothing less !

Cheers
Dani
Posted By: jannesan Re: You Don't Know Me - 03/29/23 03:15 PM
Originally Posted By: Scott C
What a cool groove Janne. Song has so much energy. Love those vocaloids. What a cool way to develop a song. Excellent guitar solo. Well done.


Thanks Scott, I appreciate your kind feedback smile Glad you liked the groove and the guitar solo.

Janne
Posted By: jannesan Re: You Don't Know Me - 03/29/23 03:17 PM
Originally Posted By: animarorecords
A very enchanting fusion of flamenco and EDM.
The modulations are wonderful.
You're getting better at using vocal synths every day.
Your intention to make Synthesizer V Solaria to sound like a wicked lady is successfully done.
Enjoyed my listen a lot.

Best regards.

Shigeki Adachi


Thanks Shigeki Adachi for your pleasant words smile I'm glad you approved my intentions. And I'm really glad you noticed the modulations, I don't use modulation often, but interestingly here I'm going both up and down.

Janne
Posted By: jannesan Re: You Don't Know Me - 03/29/23 03:23 PM
Originally Posted By: dani48
WOW ! This is absolutely
one of your best if not
even the best !

Those synths really sound
alive ....uh... AI !!!!
Maybe we can start retiring
as vocalists ?


a masterpiece , nothing less !

Cheers
Dani


Thanks Dani for your heartwarming comment smile Although AI vocalists may sound alive, please do not retire yet. At least, not until the day when there is an AI Dani available wink

Janne
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