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Posted By: Steve Young New Song - Girl With The Green Dress - 05/21/12 02:01 AM
The past few weeks have been very hectic for me. Going through a change in my work situation, etc. But I finally had time to sit down and finish a new song this weekend. It's mostly RealTracks/RealDrums. I also played some keyboards (organ, brass, and a variety of other sounds). All the vocals are me. I hope you enjoy this one!

Girl With The Green Dress

(The lyrics are on the Soundclick page.)

Here are the RealTracks/RealDrums used...
RealTracks in song: 1268:Bass, Electric, PopUplift Ev16 120
RealTracks in song: 1577:Piano, Acoustic, Rhythm Soul60sSync Ev 110
RealTracks in song: 1399:Guitar, Electric, Rhythm Soul70sBrightSync Ev16 100
RealTracks in song: 1718:Guitar, Electric, Rhythm TexasBluesRockStraightBrent Ev 120
RealTracks in song: 686:Organ, B3, Background Pop Ev 120
RealTracks in song: 1720:Guitar, Electric, Soloist TexasBluesRockStraightBrent Ev 120
RealDrums: RealDrums in Song: Soul60sEv^1-a:Snare, HiHat , b:Snare, Ride
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Have a great day!

Steve
Posted By: seeker Re: New Song - Girl With The Green Dress - 05/21/12 02:13 AM
Steve,

What great song, the story with your lyrics, your vocals, the music
production. Love the break, then the ending, was almost a surprise.

You did a nice job on putting all of this together.

Hope your job change is not too drastic ?

Thanks for you hard work and sharing with us!
Wow Steve!
What a great song. I like everything about it.
You've really got a winner here. Good job sir.

Tim
Posted By: PgFantastic Re: New Song - Girl With The Green Dress - 05/21/12 04:46 AM
Your songs sound so professionally mixed. Well written tune. Thanks for sharing them all!



My Music
Hi Steve,
I've been away for a while but just heard your song.
It is very very good.
I like how you come up with Real Tracks that fit well together.

On my sound system (Bose 3 companion) the volume of the song is a little too harsh, it needs backing off just a little, perhaps lower the ceiling just a db.

Well done.

Best regards
George
Posted By: CeeBee Re: New Song - Girl With The Green Dress - 05/21/12 09:39 AM
Nice one Steve, love the harmonies. I'm amazed at your productivity, I'm still toiling on songs I started 20 years ago.
Posted By: Tommyc Re: New Song - Girl With The Green Dress - 05/21/12 10:21 AM
Great Song and Mixuhfacationing Cuz, love how the ending weaves together! Maybe you could write some music for your new jobs car commercials. Stranger Thangs have happened, specially to me!
Posted By: Skyoma Re: New Song - Girl With The Green Dress - 05/21/12 12:16 PM
Nice song Steve,

I love the vocal harmony. I struggle with that part.

I really like the "Aaaahhhh aaaaahhhh aaaaahhhh" bridge after the 1st chorus.

skyoma
Nice one Steve. You're very prolific....one after another. Good job!
Posted By: Kemmrich Re: New Song - Girl With The Green Dress - 05/21/12 10:02 PM
mighty fine sounding mix and great use of the biab tracks. good singing and harmonies, too. The horns were an excellent addition. You're a mixologist!
Posted By: rsdean Re: New Song - Girl With The Green Dress - 05/22/12 12:45 AM
Steve,

Love the song. Your vocal really stands out on this one - a bit more aggressive and sounding strong. I also think the mix and arrangement are superb... very nice job all around.

Bob
Posted By: Steve Young Re: New Song - Girl With The Green Dress - 05/22/12 12:40 PM
Frank,

Thanks so much! Glad you like it. My job change is pretty drastic to me. But I guess it's kind of like "minor" surgery - it's only minor when someone else is getting cut on!

Tim,

Thank you! As always, I truly appreciate your time and comments.

Robert,

Thanks! I really enjoy your work as well! I always look forward to your next song.

Steve
Posted By: Steve Young Re: New Song - Girl With The Green Dress - 05/22/12 12:47 PM
George,

Thanks so much for taking the time to listen and comment on this one! I have listened to this on several systems, and when I compare it to other "professional" cd's that I have (from multiple genres) it doesn't seem to be any louder or harsher than the ones I have compared it to. Maybe it's louder in Scotland? Again thank you, and welcome back!

Sinbad,

Again, thank you very much! When I look back on some of the songs I've written, I wish I would have toiled on them for 20 years, myself!

Tommy,

Thank you, my friend! Glad you like this one!

Steve
Posted By: Steve Young Re: New Song - Girl With The Green Dress - 05/22/12 12:57 PM
Skyoma,

I appreciate your comments. Glad you like the harmonies. That's the fun part of putting the song together for me - can also be the most challenging part!

MountainSide,

Thanks so much! I do enjoy writing, and wish I had more time to do it! The tools that Band In A Box has given us really makes it easier, though!

Kevin,

Thank you very much for your comments! I was hoping the horns would fit in, and not be too much of a distraction. Glad you like it!

Robert,

Thanks! As always, I appreciate your comments. After I was so sick back in December, it has taken me months to get more strength back in my "naturally mellow" voice. I feel like I am just now getting back to where I can do some of this type of music.

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Steve
Posted By: Skyline Re: New Song - Girl With The Green Dress - 05/22/12 03:54 PM
Another winner Steve, very enjoyable indeed! Great song, arrangement and delivery.
I shall have to explore that RT drum kit - I don't like the sound of the RD kits as a rule but that one sounds great. I loved the brass sounds; what did you make them with?

John
Steve, have beem listening to a few more of your tunes...very nice. How are you doing your vocal harmonies?
Quote:

Maybe it's louder in Scotland?




Ha Ha!! Maybe it's the whisky that makes it sound louder

I didn't mean to come across negatively.
On reflection it could just have been that I have a new sound system that I have yet to get to grips with.
I found that the bass boom-box has a control and once turning that down it sounded much better.

Keep em' comin'

Best regards
George
Posted By: Steve Young Re: New Song - Girl With The Green Dress - 05/23/12 11:44 AM
John,

Thanks so much! I like the more natural sound of this RealDrum too. I have been using a little different method on my RD's lately. I use 3 tracks - one with eq and compression to fit the mix (and sometimes another plugin or 2 as needed, such as Waves Transx to add some more punch), a second track with some reverb tails on it, usually set back in the mix to make it subtle (been doing this all along), but the 3rd track is flat with no eq, and moved "to the right" a few milliseconds, to fatten up the sound - then bring the 3rd track up very subtly in the mix, just enough to add body. Seems to bring the kick alive in the mix a little more, without making it "louder"

As to the horns, some of the horns are loops (from Logic), but I doubled the loop parts with some midi brass sounds (Logic), playing note for note what the loop was playing, but an octave lower to add depth. Then I added several more various brass parts, (all midi VSTi from Logic again). Then stir in some reverbs and delays, and simmer till ready!

Thanks again!

MountainSide,

Thanks again! I "layer" my background vocals - I record each part usually 3 times (on 3 separate tracks), then "space" them out (panning) to fill up the mix. Makes the vocals sound fuller, not louder. It's not unusual for me to have 12-18 tracks of just background vocals. (Sounds much more tedious than it is. I usually do most all my background vocals in one take, each, as long as I pronounce all the words right. )

George,

lol! I didn't take it as negative. I appreciate your input! Thanks once again!

Steve
Posted By: RobbMiller Re: New Song - Girl With The Green Dress - 05/23/12 12:02 PM
Glockenspiel is the new ukelele.
Posted By: Don Gaynor Re: New Song - Girl With The Green Dress - 05/24/12 08:55 PM
Steve, in a word: WONDERFUL! Sounds fabulous on my desktop speakers. How does one improve on perfection? Michie's (George's) kilts were just billowing in the wind, me thinks.
Posted By: Steve Young Re: New Song - Girl With The Green Dress - 05/25/12 11:35 AM
RobbMiller,

Thanks? I really do appreciate you taking the time to listen and comment!

Don,

Thank you so much! Be easy on George. I don't want you starting an Irish-Scottish war!

Steve
Posted By: Noel96 Re: New Song - Girl With The Green Dress - 05/27/12 02:12 AM
Hi Steve,

Oh my goodness!!!! This sounds brilliant. The production is breathtaking. It's a very enthusiastic standing ovation from me.

All the best,
Noel
Posted By: Pat Marr Re: New Song - Girl With The Green Dress - 05/27/12 06:24 PM
steve,
another good one, it's all been said already.

Would you be willing to post your recording/mixing/mastering techniques in the tips and tricks section? It doesn't tend to scroll away as quickly as the other forums, and what you're doing works so well, it should be put where it's easily accessible for a long time.

Likewise, there are others here who do subtle little things that make a big difference in the final product. Maybe if such an entry gets made to Tips & Tricks, y'all could add your tricks to the thread.
Posted By: Sundance Re: New Song - Girl With The Green Dress - 05/28/12 12:36 AM
Well done Steve!

Very good idea Pat. +1
Posted By: gibson Re: New Song - Girl With The Green Dress - 05/28/12 05:57 AM
Wow, that sounds like a song that the British duo "Peter and Gordon" from the '60's would do
Enjoyable as usual but now I've got that chord sequence running through my head...grrr LOL
I add an +1 to Pat's idea also

Alyn
Posted By: F.M.M. Re: New Song - Girl With The Green Dress - 05/30/12 01:06 AM
hi steve wow !!!! well done everything sounds great its a keeper thanks eric
Posted By: Steve Young Re: New Song - Girl With The Green Dress - 05/31/12 02:10 AM
Thanks so much for all of your generous comments!

I have been overwhelmed with my work, and battling a sinus infection, so I apologize for taking so long to get back with you guys! I will try to post some of my recording/mixing/mastering techniques in the Tips & Tricks section. It may be tomorrow night before I can get to it though.

Again, I truly appreciate all of your kind words!

Steve
Posted By: WSE1 Re: New Song - Girl With The Green Dress - 05/31/12 06:02 AM
Great Song Steve. Awesome in every way!

Sal
Posted By: MrEd Re: New Song - Girl With The Green Dress - 05/31/12 07:27 AM
Polished and professional. The horns really stand out.
Very well done.
Posted By: jford Re: New Song - Girl With The Green Dress - 05/31/12 11:16 AM
Just now had a chance to listen to this. This was excellent and I could see myself commuting to work listening to this song on the radio.
Posted By: mglinert Re: New Song - Girl With The Green Dress - 06/01/12 02:54 PM
Thanks for posting this one Steven and sharing some of your recording secrets with us!

Of course, I recognise the very high level of skill that has gone into making this – but I am going to be a slightly dissenting voice in this thread.

I find the lead vocals in the verse are a bit lacking in intensity/conviction (not volume)

That there is the ‘Gloria’ chord pattern give or take.

After the first couple of verses maybe there is too much going on sonically (the horns at 1:24, tambourine at 2:00, cowbell and rock org at 2:15, the voices at 2:32….etc).

It could be argued that they been added to distract attention from what is otherwise a rather ordinary and somewhat formulaic composition.

And if there is nothing going on between the two protagonists other than courteous greetings, then how could they have their own song?

Yes of course Green Dress is very well played, put together and mixed, but to my ears this is not one of your finest Steven.

Very best regards,

Marc
Posted By: Debra Re: New Song - Girl With The Green Dress - 06/04/12 02:53 AM
Hi Steve,

I absolutely love this song.

Debra
Posted By: jptjptjpt Re: New Song - Girl With The Green Dress - 06/06/12 05:48 AM
Great recording. You managed to get a riff type sound. Cool. Great vocals too.
Posted By: Steve Young Re: New Song - Girl With The Green Dress - 06/09/12 07:13 PM
Thanks so much to all of you for your very kind words!

Several of you requested that I post in the Tips and Tricks Section about my methods of mixing, etc. Sorry it took so long for me to get to it, but I have been extremely busy in my work and FINALLY got around to posting a very LONG post there for you. Please feel free to add your tips, etc in the post there in the Tips and Tricks Section.

Here is a link...

http://www.pgmusic.com/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=365821&an=0&page=0#Post365821

Thanks again!

Steve
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