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Posted By: Charlie Fogle Carolina Blue - 06/24/14 10:59 PM
****** Song Summary *************
Title: Carolina Blue
Key=A , Tempo 85, Length (m:s)=4:02
Style is _RNBROCK.STY (Modern RnB Rock)

RealTracks in style: 1190:Bass, Electric, ModernRnBRock Ev 065
RealTracks in style: 869:Guitar, Electric, Rhythm ModernRnBRockWarmA-B Ev 065
RealTracks in style: 872:Guitar, Electric, Rhythm ModernRnBRockFunkyA-B Ev 065
RealTracks in song: 1004:Guitar, 12-String Acoustic, Rhythm ClassicRockStrumming Ev16 065
RealTracks in song: 1530:Guitar, Electric, Soloist PopPower Ev 120
RealDrums in style: RockModernRnB^01-a:Snare, Closed HiHat , b:Snare, Crash Ride
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https://soundcloud.com/charlie-fogle/carolina-blue

A song for Myrtle Beach with tempo and beat to dance the South Carolina state dance, the Carolina Shag.

Hope you enjoy,
Posted By: Greg Johnson Re: Carolina Blue - 06/25/14 02:08 AM
Some really nice images in this!! I love the concept "Carolina blue" and the payoff is set up nicely with the music. I like the out front guitar. The mix works for me. Nice work!! Take care. Greg
Posted By: RnAM Re: Carolina Blue - 06/25/14 09:59 AM
Like the song, especially the solo part sounds very cool!
Did you play any additional lead guitar, or is it just the soloist?
Because I didn't find many slow electric guitar soloists yet.
You probably also added distortion or something?

Regards,
Rob
Posted By: dani48 Re: Carolina Blue - 06/25/14 11:43 AM
Hi, Charlie !:))


I love the Carolina Shag !:))
I love those chords, I love this kind
of melodic music really much !:))
It is so beautiful it goes straight
to my heart !

Cheers
Dani
Posted By: boehm Re: Carolina Blue - 06/25/14 01:45 PM
Hi Charlie,

Originally Posted By: Greg Johnson
Some really nice images in this!! I love the concept "Carolina blue" and the payoff is set up nicely with the music. I like the out front guitar. The mix works for me. Nice work!!


Thanks for the enjoyable listen.

Guenter
Posted By: Charlie Fogle Re: Carolina Blue - 06/25/14 01:54 PM
Thanks for commenting Greg. So many of our guests, retirees and vacation homes residents are from North Carolina and this creates a strong, friendly rivalry between fans of the University of South Carolina and the University of North Carolina. Sometimes, there's quite a debate over which is the 'real' Carolina. My family and money went to USC..... The Carolina blue is a salute to the influence in Myrtle Beach from our friends up north.

I was fortunate to stumble upon that guitar sound and solo. It has a big impact on the song in my opinion.
Posted By: Charlie Fogle Re: Carolina Blue - 06/25/14 02:12 PM
Thanks for listening Rob. The solo guitar, 1530 - was generated by BIAB. I did not add any effects. The distortion, reverb and delay were in the sample. I did all mixing, panning and volume levels in BIAB and exported the song to a stereo file with no further editing. I imported the stereo track into my DAW and ran the music stereo track through the DAW channel strip for overall eq and compression. There was a noticeable difference in the punch of that solo guitar relevant to the overall music track level at a lower volume level, so I gain staged the stereo track to where it was just below clipping and placed a limiter across the post of the main outputs of the DAW to prevent any accidental clips and that was it. I did not play any instruments on the music track.

Regards,

Charlie
Posted By: Charlie Fogle Re: Carolina Blue - 06/25/14 02:15 PM
Dani, thanks for your kind comments. I'm a big fan of yours and glad you enjoyed the song.

Regards,

Charlie

And by the way, I had not found that beach shuffle style you used on your song, Darling, so thank you also for putting me onto that style. It really fits into the Carolina beach style of music that is so popular in Myrtle Beach and along the eastern seaboard. I'll be playing around all day with it.

Charlie
Posted By: Charlie Fogle Re: Carolina Blue - 06/25/14 02:17 PM
Hi Guenter. Thanks for taking time to listen and I appreciate your comments. I'm glad you enjoyed it.

Regards,

Charlie
Posted By: ROG Re: Carolina Blue - 06/25/14 06:56 PM
Hi Charlie.

Something about this track makes me want to just keep playing it over, but I'm not sure exactly what it is! I think it's possibly the way the backing drives along with that wonderful bass line pushing it.

Nice story to the lyrics and a great vocal to match it.

Really enjoyed this one, thanks.

ROG.
Posted By: Janice & Bud Re: Carolina Blue - 06/25/14 09:09 PM
ROG nailed it for me. That bass line, yup. Reminds me of my HS days and trips to Panama City or Myrtle Beach in the 1960's. Cool lyric and supporting production. Bravo!!
Posted By: RichMac Re: Carolina Blue - 06/25/14 09:26 PM
Most enjoyable Charlie. Full of atmosphere and the guitar lead stands out very nicely. Cheers.
Posted By: Charlie Fogle Re: Carolina Blue - 06/26/14 02:31 AM
Hi everyone. Thanks for stopping by, listening and commenting. I appreciate it a lot. My wife, who grew up at the beach, tells me I'm "close" on the tune but not there yet and I need to find a singer and add some backup vocals because I'm "too country" and my phrasing is not right. Left to my own devices, I could hire The Temptations maybe or Floyd Jane's BIABettes if I knew how that works.

Charlie
Posted By: gruverider Re: Carolina Blue - 06/27/14 12:33 AM
great style! I really enjoyed the guitar solo outro, nice touch
Posted By: Charlie Fogle Re: Carolina Blue - 06/27/14 02:51 AM
Thanks Gruverider for listening. I agree that was a pretty awesome guitar sound BIAB came up with for the song. It was pretty spot on to have been computer generated and not played live.

Charlie
Posted By: Sundance Re: Carolina Blue - 06/27/14 03:36 AM
Love this song Charlie. Love beach music aka sixties soul pop rehashed. Good mix too. Your wife has a point it is a tad country vocal and missing the harmonies for beach but hey I've listened three times. smile

BTW, that PowerPop lead guitar is one of my fav RT's. I've used it a lot and I wish PG would get him to do some more - I like his style better than Brent on a lot of pop stuff. I'm gonna put that in the wishlist.

There's a thread on doing harmony in the tips and tricks forum where FJ talks about using BIABettes. Not hard just practice and experiment 'til you get them sounding like you want. I mix them in with my own harmony sometimes to fatten things up when I don't feel like hooking up my hardware harmonizer and don't feel like singing umpteen harmony tracks. It's a real time saver once you get the hang of using it and mixing it.

My fav of yours so far.

Josie
Posted By: JoanneCooper Re: Carolina Blue - 06/27/14 07:57 AM
Hi Charlie
Enjoyed the listen. Thanks.
Posted By: Charlie Fogle Re: Carolina Blue - 06/27/14 12:24 PM
Hi Josie (Sundance), thanks for your kind comments and suggestions. I think the powerpop lead guitar really helped the song and I like it too. I will likely find use for it again in some other song and I'll plus 1 your wishlist post when you make it.

I found the BIAB posts you suggested and experimented with it until 3 am this morning. I had thought it required midi notes to follow and create the harmony so I had never bothered to explore it in depth earlier. I also have several hardware vocalizers I do not use often enough and Melodyne in my DAW.

I do appreciate and was encouraged that you have taken time to listen more than once. Your musical contributions here on the forum are always first quality and I particularly enjoy your song, "She's in love", that to me is beach music sounding. I go back and listen to it every so often.

Regards,

Charlie
Posted By: Charlie Fogle Re: Carolina Blue - 06/27/14 12:25 PM
Hi JosieC. Glad you stopped by and listened. Thanks for taking time to comment.

Charlie
Posted By: floyd jane Re: Carolina Blue - 06/29/14 11:59 AM
Charlie,

Very enjoyable song. Nice mix and terrific use of the solo guitar.
The song itself has a great flow to it.

You mentioned that you did find the thread that Josie started about the harmonies - as I recall, that pretty much explain the BIABettes - but let me know if you have any questions. I use them less than I used to, but since throw them in one some things...

Enjoyed this...

floyd
Posted By: Guitarhacker Re: Carolina Blue - 06/29/14 12:33 PM
Cool tune.. the song sounds good to me.

I've never been a big fan of beach music. Although, here in eastern NC that's almost an unpardonable sin to some folks. One of my customers is the bass player in one of the big name beach music bands. Gold records on the wall of his den, Grammys in the curio cabinet, and a really nice home studio. His band is still playing weekend gigs and getting top dollar so I guess there's still lots of fans for it. He also does lots of "freelance" gigging with other bands.
Posted By: Charlie Fogle Re: Carolina Blue - 06/29/14 02:05 PM
Hi Floyd. Yes, I found the harmony thread and it was very helpful. I had assumed the harmony feature was tied to midi notes and had not even explored the option before Josie's suggestion. I also listened to the example songs from one of your posts when you were first beginning to use the BIABette's. That led me to a post where you shared some 'handclap' tracks you developed. You have been very generous with your time and knowledge here on the forum. I'm sure it's appreciated by all.

I appreciate you taking time to listen and comment and that you previously have taken time to share your expertise with the forum. I always look forward to your contributions.

Regards,

Charlie
Posted By: Charlie Fogle Re: Carolina Blue - 06/29/14 02:25 PM
Hi Herb, I'm glad you enjoyed the tune. This song only marginally meets the template for a real beach song with the lyrics and that it has a tempo and flow that is easy to dance the Carolina Shag. I think for many, the love of beach music is as much about the youthful memories it invokes as it is about the music itself.

I'd like to develop this song and direct its appeal toward the Piedmont of NC where Carolina Blue can mean something other than just sadness.


Regards,

Charlie
Posted By: Pat Marr Re: Carolina Blue - 06/29/14 03:02 PM
Hi Charlie,

I live in NC, but I just got back from a beach vacation in Charleston SC, where there is still an abundance of live music every night.

Your song resonates with me on many levels (I identify with the NC-SC thang...)

where are you located in SC?
Posted By: Charlie Fogle Re: Carolina Blue - 06/29/14 03:18 PM
Hi Pat. Thanks for listening and I'm glad you enjoyed the song as well as got the SC,NC connection.

I purchased and now live on the old family farm that is located inland about 35 miles from North Myrtle Beach, SC but I grew up in Charleston.

Regards,

Charlie
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