I'm re-recording songs with BIB, they sound so much better. I've been working with harmonies, quite a few in this one. Overdubs are pizzicato strings and arpeggio guitars. Just discovered when you choose two of the same instrument, they don't double, you get two performances. In this song there are two electric 12 string guitars, one on each side.
https://soundcloud.com/willrockwell/love-is-gonna-find-you

****** Song Summary *************
Title: Love is Gonna Find You
File:Love is Gonna Find You.SGU
Key=C , Tempo 126, Length (m:s)=4:26
No intro. 136 bar chorus, from bar 1 to bar 136. Repeat x1 chorus
No Melody
No Soloist track.
Song is saved with Volume, Pan, Reverb, Chorus, Bank0,
Song is saved with bar changes for Volume Changes,
Style is _EAGF_GF.STY (Eagles Style. (136 RS))

RealTracks in song: ~~1011:Bass, Electric, BritInvasion Ev 120
RealTracks in song: ~1030:Guitar, 12-String Electric, Fingerpicking Ev 120
RealTracks in song: 645:Guitar, Electric, Rhythm PopRockBritEdgy Ev 120
RealTracks in song: ~1030:Guitar, 12-String Electric, Fingerpicking Ev 120
RealTracks in song: 660:Guitar, Electric, Rhythm TexasRockCrisp Ev 120
RealTracks in song: ~~426:Banjo, Bluegrass Ev 130 (Rhythm)
RealDrums in Song: RockClassicBritEv^1-a:Snare, Closed HiHat , b:Snare, Ride Bell
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Love is Gonna Find You rev 2014

(chorus)
AmEm Love is gonna find you, love is gonna find you,
GC Love is gonna come one day
AmEm Love is gonna find you, love is gonna find you,
GC Love is gonna come one day

CGF You say you've had enough of love
CGAmG You gave all your tears away
CFDmG Feeling cold, a little old, standing in the rain
CF You got too bold, it's time to fold
DmGC you'll never feel the same again
FG CFG
CFG C Climb to the top of the tallest tree, but you'll never get away
GF Love is gonna find you
CFG C Try to drown in luxury, you can never forget
GF love is gonna fine you

CFG C Take your lines on an ocean cruise, you might get a hit
GF Love is gonna find you
CFG C an offer that you can't refuse, don't ever quit
GF Love is gonna find you

AmEmGC AmEmGC chorus
CGF You say that youre afraid of love
CGAmG It seems a dark and scary land
CFDmG where men in white come out at night, you never could remain
CF DmGC when lovers fight and feelings bite, you could not stand the pain again
FG CFG
CFG C You can fly out into space, you can chase the moon
GF Love is gonna find you
CFG C welcome back to the human race, and one day soon
GF Love is gonna find you
CFG C Spend your hours watching clocks, but in due time
GF love is gonna find you
CFG C Keep your heart stored up on blocks, you can stop on a dime
GF Love is gonna find you

AmEmGC AmEmGC chorus
CGDmC You can give a rest to your troubled mind and the little games you play
CF it's for the best, cause love is gonna find you
GC love is gonna come one day

CG You can make a new start, put the past behind,
DmC with your friends all far away
CF keep an open heart, cause love is gonna find you
GC love is gonna come one day

CF keep an open heart, cause love is gonna find you
GC love is gonna come one day

Hi Will.. here's where RealBand comes in handy. You can take any track after it's already generated and simply copy it to another track, then treat each copy separately.

Did I hear a female backing vocal in the mix? Your wife or girl friend maybe? Or did you process your voice to sound higher?

I see you have just 25 posts.. that means you haven't been here too long.. and I've been gone for a while, so this may be the first time I've met you! Welcome to the forum!

I like what you're doing here, and I look forward to hearing more from you!

Pat, that was my castrate voice

I like the song and the genre. There is a lot to like here but I was left feeling the arrangement was a bit to busy and overdone so that it detracted a bit from the overall vibe of the song. That's happened to me in the past as BIAB offers so many choices it becomes hard to say no to yourself when choosing instruments.
I think the song lyrics are written well and other than the nits mentioned, enjoyed the song.


Charlie

I appreciate the critique. I was displeased with the mix myself, and did another today. https://soundcloud.com/willrockwell/love-is-gonna-find-you

Will,

After having listened to both versions, I think the second mix is an improvement but the drums still seem busy. Perhaps you could cut down on the number of drum fills and have other instruments fill in those spots instead.

Since the track has a sixties kind of vibe, you could use a sax or an organ or something like that in places to take the busyness away from the drums and still sound true to the style. But that's just my opinion and others may see it quite differently.

BR,
David

Will,

I really enjoyed that from the start, the choir and your castrati voice.

I too see the Cars which in my book is excellent, great band.

I shall listen to the rest of your songs later.

Welcome

Alyn

You got me Dave, I'm afraid I placed fills at the beginning of every measure, now I see why you don't do that. I'm learning. A new mix will be forthcoming.

regarding the drum fills:
What works in a recording is different than what works in a live performance. Recordings are typically much more controlled and measured, but it's practically expected that when performing live the musicians will overplay.

I agree the drums are over the top in this song, but to me the excess gives the song a signature "live" feel. Which, for the genre, a certain lack of discipline and rebellion are almost required to get "the sound"

my 2 cents. One advantage of starting out with the intention of achieving a "live" sound is that the end result will almost certainly be more exciting. On the down side, it will also tire your ears more quickly. It boils down to creative choice based on the effect you hope to achieve.

I like it

Hi Will,
Lots of energy again in this song. I to like the live feel of the song.
Enjoyed my listen.
G
Fred

Yup, assuming you are using a DAW you can generate as many permutations of a RT as you like and then cut and paste from them to create one track that better fits where you are going. I will typically use 25+ regens to get a solo like I want it and 3 or 4 for a rhythm track. My philosophy on solo RT's is get them to complement the melody as much as possible and never distract -- given that, obviously, we can't create the melody with the RT's.

Yup, again re the drums. Just use the blue/green markers to change styles and or create fills. BiaB will make you learn about drums whether you want to or not!

Pardon the ramble....

I too like the song and the feel. I'd just keep whittling it down until there's nothing left to take away. Like Charlie said, when I first started with BiaB I overloaded every song because it was so easy. You are well on the way!! We enjoyed where you are going
with this.

J&B

Feel free to ramble, I'm learning a lot. It was easy to take away some of the green and blue markers, export the drums and import the new track into my DP24. The board was still set up with the mix, all outboard gear still patched in, so it was easy to create a new mix. You were right about making room for the other instruments, I filled some of the holes with the twin Rickenbacker 12's, they sound better than drums anyway. This feedback process is improving my songs, thank you all so much.
https://soundcloud.com/willrockwell/love-is-gonna-find-you

Seems that you are getting the drums tamed. The guitar arps could be dropped just a hair - a dB or 2 to fit in the mix a little better - they jump out just a little (not much). It seemed that your harmonies were pretty close to your main vocal - particularly the opening - they might benefit from being panned out more. For this style song, your vocal could use more reverb (I thought - but that is, of course, a personal choice).

The overall song has a good energy to it.

It's obvious you are enjoying your Band...

fj

Floyd, I don't yet have enough confidence in my harmonies to pan them out. I think this song is done, I'm going to break down the mix and move onto Secret Admirer, the stalker song.

Nice work on the harmonies, nice uptempo work; thanks for sharing!

I did one more pass since the board was set up and ready to go. Harmonies panned between 10 and 2 and up a little, arp guitars down slightly, more reverb and a little chorus on lead vocal, pizzicato strings up under "fly out into space", 12 string guitars filling more. This is definitely the last mix, thank you all for your help.
https://soundcloud.com/willrockwell/love-is-gonna-find-you

Hi Will. I feel the 60's vibe. Lots of good work in this one and lots of good ideas. Cheers.

Rich, even though my preference in music is for new alternative (and 80's Eurotrash), my own stuff is definitely influenced by the 60's. There were lots of great sound ideas that were not completely explored, and hooks left undiscovered.