Here Goes Nuttin'

Posted by: eddie1261

Here Goes Nuttin' - 09/21/15 05:41 PM

This is the first song from my new CD, Saddle Sores, with an extremely creative and unique treatment by our own Pat Marr.

Here Goes Nuttin'
Posted by: Danny C.

Re: Here Goes Nuttin' - 09/21/15 06:31 PM

Pat,

You are one talented dude!

Later,
Posted by: Kemmrich

Re: Here Goes Nuttin' - 09/21/15 07:15 PM

Ha, that's great. super cool video.

Needs more reverb -- I'm changing my stripes!
Posted by: gibson

Re: Here Goes Nuttin' - 09/21/15 07:37 PM

Originally Posted By: Danny C.
Pat,

You are one talented dude!

Later,


Totally agree, ABSOLUTELY AMAZING Pat.

Alyn
Posted by: Pat Marr

Re: Here Goes Nuttin' - 09/21/15 08:10 PM

Danny, Kevin and Alyn...

Thanks for the kind words about the video! It was a fun collaboration with Eddie! Bringing it back to the song, the video version of the song is different than the version you'll find on the CD if you should buy it.

The CD version has a killer pedal steel solo. However, I would have had to model a pedal steel for the animation, and there wasn't time, so we changed the solo to guitar for the video only... just because it was easier for me.

But the CD version is better! I hope everybody follows the link to Eddies kickstarter page and helps him out!
Posted by: Pat Marr

Re: Here Goes Nuttin' - 09/21/15 08:13 PM

interesting side note: The band members in the video were modeled after PGMusic forum members. Can you guess who is supposed to be who?

;-)
Posted by: Charlie Fogle

Re: Here Goes Nuttin' - 09/21/15 08:17 PM

Two talented dudes in Eddie and Pat. A duo made in Heav.... Uhm I mean Band in a Box world.

Great song and video.

Enjoyed it a lot.

Charlie
Posted by: floyd jane

Re: Here Goes Nuttin' - 09/22/15 04:55 AM

Cool, guys.

Good luck with your CD, Eddie.

Pat - LOVE "Pat the band leader"! Especially his enthusiasm at the end.
The bass player (let's call him "Bud") does some groovy moves!
And Eddie's lead moves are priceless!
The stops are good, too...

Great job, y'all!

floyd
Posted by: JoanneCooper

Re: Here Goes Nuttin' - 09/22/15 05:03 AM

WOW, that is totally amazing. I know how hard it is to do this animation thing so there is huge amount of work in it. I cant even begin to guess who the band members are (other than Eddie and Pat).

Good luck with the album Eddie.
Posted by: boehm

Re: Here Goes Nuttin' - 09/22/15 07:08 AM

Hi Pat,

great animation. What software did
you use for it?

Guenter
Posted by: Pat Marr

Re: Here Goes Nuttin' - 09/22/15 08:51 AM

Originally Posted By: boehm
Hi Pat,

great animation. What software did
you use for it?

Guenter

Hi Guenter,
I used a bunch of different programs to create bits and pieces of scenes and props that all got combined into what you see in Eddies music Video.

The main program is called MUVIZU, and it works a lot like BIAB.

Like BIAB, it has predefined content that you can arrange into an animation pretty quickly. Also like BIAB, for anybody who is willing to do the work to go beyond the predefined features, the sky is the limit. It provides hooks to introduce new elements, which is what I like to do.

There is no predefined content for fiddles, so I used a different animation program named Anime Studio Pro to create the scene in which the fiddle is being played.

I also used several 3-d modelling programs to create props like the fiddle and a few other things that got cut from the final video.

After all the scenes were recorded, I brought everything into Adobe Premiere Elements, imported Eddie's song, and slid each scene along the timeline until it lined up with the music.

Eddies song was perfect for an animated video because it's funny, upbeat, and colored by Eddie's bigger-than-life personality! I hope the addition of video draws people to Eddie's Kickstarter site so he meets his funding goal. (He's currently only about halfway there)

To the best of my knowledge, Eddie is the first of us to try Kickstarter, and if it works out for him, more forum members may want to give it a try.
Posted by: Guitarhacker

Re: Here Goes Nuttin' - 09/22/15 08:56 AM

cool stuff there.

I wouldn't know where to start on doing a video like that.

Tell that bass player to put a shirt on.
Posted by: Pat Marr

Re: Here Goes Nuttin' - 09/22/15 09:20 AM

Originally Posted By: Guitarhacker
Tell that bass player to put a shirt on.

bass players are ROGUES! You can't tell them NUTHIN! ;-)
Posted by: Pat Marr

Re: Here Goes Nuttin' - 09/22/15 09:36 AM

Originally Posted By: JosieC
I cant even begin to guess who the band members are (other than Eddie and Pat).


here's a hint... Eddie's posts contain a profile pic (affectionately known as "Bad@$$ Eddie") and another, more genteel picture in his tag line (Affectionately known as "good Eddie")

The singer is "good Eddie" (including jacket and tie!)

The keyboard player is "bad@$$ Eddie" including black beret, and overall dark look)

Drummer is loosely modeled after Tommy Adams

Fiddle Player is based on Floyd's profile pic, with the long straight hair... top hat was added in homage to Tom Petty (who isn't on the forum, at least not under that name)

Bass player was originally based on the only defining feature in 90db's profile pic... his signature white fedora! Everything else is random, since I have no idea what Bob looks like. But as Floyd noted, Bud also wears a fedora... and he even plays bass... so, your call whether to see Bob or Bud in the bass player! (Except Bud's in better shape than my animated bass player, who probably couldn't wheeze his way up a 10 degree incline on a mountain bike)

and of course, the acoustic guitar player (added as an afterthought because Eddie requested it) is yours truly.



Posted by: Janice & Bud

Re: Here Goes Nuttin' - 09/22/15 10:57 AM

WOW!!!

Pat, I can't begin to imagine how long it must take to
complete a project like that. And I think some of my simple
audio and lyric video productions get tedious...your's will
stop my whining!

I have a somewhat loose conceptual notion of how you
are doing this but being able to integrate the different
pieces of software into the end result is amazing.

The time and talent are very obvious to this listener
and viewer.

A BIG tip of the fedora to you Eddie for a really nice
production. It's a great write/arrangement/performance
and sounds wonderful on my monitors. I'd love to know
some details about the production. Hope the CD does
well for you!

Janice is with her mother today and I'm very much
looking forward to her reaction to this later this
evening.

Kudos to both of y'all!!

J&B

PS I wear shirts smile
Posted by: eddie1261

Re: Here Goes Nuttin' - 09/22/15 02:10 PM

Originally Posted By: JosieC
Good luck with the album Eddie.


Thanks Jo. Now, you DO know it is available for international sales, right? If I can get you to bite, my old English pal Rog (who provided a lot of guidance and idea-making tweaks along the songwriting road), and any of our users from Australia (like maybe Keith From Oz, just to drop a hint), I can legitimately state that I am a professional recording artist with sales to fans on 4 continents!!! grin

Posted by: eddie1261

Re: Here Goes Nuttin' - 09/22/15 02:33 PM

Originally Posted By: Janice & Bud
WOW!!!
A BIG tip of the fedora to you Eddie for a really nice
production. It's a great write/arrangement/performance
and sounds wonderful on my monitors. I'd love to know
some details about the production. Hope the CD does
well for you!


Let me give you some backstory as well as some production info.

I have made light many times of the fact that I have been married 3 times. I have sworn that I will never do it again. However, there is a wonderful woman here who sings like an angel and writes amazingly deep, sometimes dark lyrics. I totally adore her, and would have LOVED had things gone further. However, she is just not interested in it going further, so in the true spirit of "it is what it is", I wrote this song about that situation. I really am one who can get by on nothing. My "big TV, a satellite dish and a cellular telephone", and as long as I have my dog, I'm good.

BUT.....

"Baby for YOU ya know I'd do it again. (Hands spread open in the what the he** gesture) Here goes nuttin'." Another is the story about that same girl and me wanting her from a distance. Another is about when I quit drinking, another about how I realized to live life to the fullest after a near fatal car accident, one is the story of a girl who moved to LaLa land to find fame and fortune, and came back within 5 years with neither. The rest are pretty much about women who tore my heart out. Thus the title, "Saddle Sores... because sometimes life is a pain in the a**."

Production wise.... it was really one of those things where I just sat down and just hummed a melody in my head as I entered chords into the chord chart (having a good sense of pitch really comes in handy), then rendered out in some bouncy country style (I will see if I still have a reference anywhere to which it might have been). Then I started plopping solos in, the fiddle lick at the head, a little bit of backbeat piano.... that was all straightforward stuff.

Now, as Pat mentioned, the version on the CD has a pedal steel solo in it (And you'll just have to buy the CD to hear it. He's ALWAYS selling, this guy!!!). I went to (I believe) Paul somebody (Franklin? Strickland? I am not by the computer where RB runs.) and generated a solo, and thought "Well, okay" and kept the take. I then generated another. And another. And another. 8 in total. Once I had those solos in place, I started cutting and pasting, like I know you all do. I got those cuts and pastes down to 3 solos, and then cut and paste from there and came up with a MONSTER pedal steel solo. Since that all went down, I played that track for 3 guys in town who play pedal steel. All 3 of them were targets as I was recruiting for a band in case I need to play a release show. All 3 said "I can get close, but I can't play that solo exactly like that. Whoever that is... wow."

From the production/engineering side, I turn that over to my old bandmate who actually does this sort of thing. He prefers Samplitude and has so much experience i it that he is a whiz with that platform. And he has a lot of top quality plug-ins for it. So what went on post production was pretty much out of my hands. My main contribution at his studio was to sing it again and be there to tell him what I liked and what I didn't. He is very good at knowing what kind and how much of stuff. Reverb, compression, etc.... just when to use echo on a vocal.... Glad to have him.

This CD turned out so well that I am now totally jazzed to start the next one.
Posted by: Sundance

Re: Here Goes Nuttin' - 09/22/15 06:50 PM

Now that was cool, hot, sick - whatever the most glowing term of the moment is....consider I'm saying it.

I loved the guitar player moves on the solo - all of it - every character looks so pro in every respect. Such attention to detail...

Excellent Pat. (What else can I say...I want one....pouts, whines and stomps feet in unabashed and utterly childish envy....LOL!)

Eddie your song sounds great. Your friend did a wonderful job on the production. Who'd you use for the mastering?
Posted by: eddie1261

Re: Here Goes Nuttin' - 09/22/15 07:12 PM

Originally Posted By: Sundance
Eddie your song sounds great. Your friend did a wonderful job on the production. Who'd you use for the mastering?


Thanks Sundance. Because of budget I could not use a major mastering house. The same guy who helped with the production (by his own word, I was my own producer) did the mastering. He's really very good, more so that he even realizes. From inception to this finished, polished project took a while, but finishing a bucket list item while at the same time giving me the chance to tell stories about my life, it was worth it.

He is very good with the "Know what might sound good here? Let's try this." part of it. Also a great singer, primarily a drummer but also plays guitars and keyboard. Does a very good, very popular solo act around town.
Posted by: Pat Marr

Re: Here Goes Nuttin' - 09/22/15 08:23 PM

Quote:
Excellent Pat. (What else can I say...I want one....pouts, whines and stomps feet in unabashed and utterly childish envy....LOL!)


aw heck, no need to pout and stomp! Just ask! I'd do anything for you, Josie! (Um.. except drive to Louisiana and deal with those rats. Rats are evil, especially the ones with laser eyes)
Posted by: PeterF

Re: Here Goes Nuttin' - 09/23/15 02:14 AM

Good song - fun video - played around with Muvizu myself - see it's been updated recently. Was always hoping they'd add more instruments and actions to make varied music videos (so impressed with the fiddle).
Posted by: Pat Marr

Re: Here Goes Nuttin' - 09/23/15 08:26 AM

Originally Posted By: PeterF
Good song - fun video - played around with Muvizu myself - see it's been updated recently. Was always hoping they'd add more instruments and actions to make varied music videos (so impressed with the fiddle).


thanks Peter! I especially appreciate the observations from somebody who has used the same software!

It may be worth noting that the fiddle scene took about as much time as the whole rest of the video! Literally DAYS to create the 3D fiddle that the guy held in his hand as everybody else played!

And in order to animate it in other software, I had to recreate the character and background in 2D to make it look like it was still in the 3D environment. Quite the enjoyable little challenge!

Regarding MUVIZU, they are working on something now that they hope to release by the end of September... not sure what it might be, but they seem excited about it.
Posted by: musiclover

Re: Here Goes Nuttin' - 09/23/15 08:50 AM

Great song and video, Congrats all round to Eddie and Pat.

Before you actually said it Pat I had guessed that the fiddle player looked like Floyd, I also thought Mario was in there too playing guitar at the left of video.

Fantastic job, and the characters look real lifelike.

musiclover
Posted by: Pat Marr

Re: Here Goes Nuttin' - 09/23/15 09:20 AM

Originally Posted By: musiclover
Great song and video, Congrats all round to Eddie and Pat.

Before you actually said it Pat I had guessed that the fiddle player looked like Floyd,

THANK YOU! I was hoping somebody would get that! ;-)

Quote:
I also thought Mario was in there too playing guitar at the left of video.

Fantastic job, and the characters look real lifelike.

musiclover

Thanks musiclover! My original plan was to create a Mario character for rhythm guitar... he's one of the few who has a fairly close-up picture to work from. But when Eddie requested that I put myself in there somewhere, I had to make a decision.

My PC is borderline capable of being used for video, and I didn't want to add so many characters that I bogged it down. ;-)

Thanks for the kind review of the whole project, (audio and video)
Posted by: Greg Johnson

Re: Here Goes Nuttin' - 09/23/15 02:34 PM

Really fun song/video!! I'm not sure I've heard Eddie before. Really love the natural vocal delivery. Enjoyed very much, and good to see you back around Pat! Take care. Greg
Posted by: eddie1261

Re: Here Goes Nuttin' - 09/23/15 03:42 PM

Originally Posted By: Greg Johnson
Really fun song/video!! I'm not sure I've heard Eddie before. Really love the natural vocal delivery. Enjoyed very much, and good to see you back around Pat! Take care. Greg


And never one to be shy about selling myself, you can hear much more of my natural vocal delivery, Greg.

My sig file has a link to my Kickstarter campaign and for just 12 bucks you can get 48 minutes of my natural vocal delivery.

Shameless!!! SHAMELESS I tell you!!!!

smile
Posted by: Pat Marr

Re: Here Goes Nuttin' - 09/23/15 04:02 PM

Quote:
Shameless!!! SHAMELESS I tell you!!!!


ah, don't apologize, even in jest Eddie... everybody here appreciates the value of grass roots music, whether they are in a position to pay for it or not.

Having heard the difference between the song you sent me that you might submit to the Merlefest song writing contest, and the way the same song sounded when you posted it to the forum, I can say that I'm looking forward to receiving my CD. Whatever he did made it sound golden to my ears!

And I also have to think that the version that ended up in this video... even apart from the guitar solo vs the pedal steel... was NOT the version your friend tweaked. How could it be if you changed the mix to add a guitar? So now I'm also looking forward to hearing the magic-ized version of the song in the video too!


PS.. I just went to your kickstarter page... 26 days to go and you are already pretty close to making your goal!
Posted by: eddie1261

Re: Here Goes Nuttin' - 09/23/15 04:20 PM

He polished and spit shined and made them all sound amazing,. I was listening today as I drove around doing errands and at one point I found myself saying "Man, I WROTE that?"

The version I sent you for the cartoon video was MY mix of that song. He had the raw track at his house doing the mastering. What you got, with the pedal steel out and the guitar solo in, was the last set of raw tracks I sent him.

Math tells me I need to move 6 more units just to lock in the finding (it's all or none) and between here and my Facebook people I should make it.

The ballad I want to submit to the contest.... I tell ya what! When you get the CD, it will be track 3, and it sounds amazing.
Posted by: Pat Marr

Re: Here Goes Nuttin' - 09/23/15 04:33 PM

that's one of the songs Rog covered isn't it?

Oh, and don't shoot for "enough" to make your goal... get all your home boys chatting it up at their gigs and on their facebook pages... its all about the sizzle, and unless people hear the steak sizzle, it won't make them hungry for the CD
Posted by: eddie1261

Re: Here Goes Nuttin' - 09/23/15 04:43 PM

Originally Posted By: Pat Marr
that's one of the songs Rog covered isn't it?


One of Rog's students, Jessie, did a version of it that was more pop and she did a great job on it. I haven't seen Rog in a while. Like several months. Anybody know if he is okay?

I have several things from his students and they were a very talented bunch. Now they have aged and moved on to college and such and he has a new bunch, including a really good female guitar player, but I haven't seen as much from him. I know he was CRAZY busy creating his instructional video series, and there were whole lot of those videos. I watched most of them and they were very well done and a very good teaching tool because he taught scales and such rather than the simpler "play this line" kind of approach. Learning music instead of songs has been one of my causes for years.

I love it when he took my song "Good Things Come" and his guys turned it into a Beach Boy feeling thing. 2 male singers traded verse and chorus and then everybody sang on the breaks. Fun stuff. And then after that, they wrote a surf song "Do It Again" that was a lot of fun to sing on.
Posted by: tommyad

Re: Here Goes Nuttin' - 09/24/15 09:28 AM

Pat, The video is amazing but I'm pretty sure you don't want my heavy handed drumming style in your band. Eddie, Good luck with the CD. The song sounds great. I enjoyed the entire production immensely. Tom
Posted by: Pat Marr

Re: Here Goes Nuttin' - 09/24/15 09:48 AM

Originally Posted By: tommyad
Pat, The video is amazing but I'm pretty sure you don't want my heavy handed drumming style in your band. Eddie, Good luck with the CD. The song sounds great. I enjoyed the entire production immensely. Tom


LOL!
I created the Tommy Adams character because the song was supposed to include pedal steel... and of course the only forum member who knocks pedal steel out of the park is YOU!

But when we replaced the pedal steel with guitar, your character got demoted to drummer. Sorry. I really do feel kinda bad about that... ;-)
Posted by: eddie1261

Re: Here Goes Nuttin' - 09/24/15 10:17 AM

Originally Posted By: tommyad
Eddie, Good luck with the CD. The song sounds great. I enjoyed the entire production immensely. Tom


Thanks Tom. About 80 copies still unclaimed at my Kickstarter! (Not that I am hinting or anything....)
Posted by: 44kfl

Re: Here Goes Nuttin' - 09/24/15 12:42 PM

Enjoyed the listen , fantastic video, good luck with the CD.

Kenny
Posted by: Sergio Guarneri

Re: Here Goes Nuttin' - 09/25/15 12:23 PM

Hello,

good song, voice and instruments used.
The video is super.. Very good.

Hello.
Sergio
Posted by: SpaceDog

Re: Here Goes Nuttin' - 09/27/15 07:38 PM

Eddie,
Great stuff. Well done!
SD
Posted by: rsdean

Re: Here Goes Nuttin' - 09/28/15 03:14 PM

Eddie / Pat,

Loved everything about this. Great song and video. Best of luck with the CD!

Bob
Posted by: eddie1261

Re: Here Goes Nuttin' - 09/28/15 03:28 PM

Appreciate all the well wishes!!! Means a lot coming from fellow forum people!

Now you can HELP with that luck by visiting my Kickstarter (address in my sig) and ordering a CD! (ALWAYS selling, this guy!!!)

That would be THE ultimate compliment!!

And let me send out yet another thank you to those of you who have already ordered.
Posted by: Pat Marr

Re: Here Goes Nuttin' - 09/28/15 10:06 PM

Quote:
Enjoyed the listen , fantastic video, good luck with the CD.

Kenny

Kenny, thanks for the kind review of the video! I really appreciate the fact that you took time to watch and comment! I see you've posted some songs to the forum... As soon as I get my head above water on some time-critical projects I will make it a point to listen to yours and offer my thoughts

Quote:
Hello,good song, voice and instruments used.
The video is super.. Very good.
Hello.
Sergio

Thanks Sergio! It's very gracious of you to comment on my video when I am so far behind at listening to other people's forum projects! Please be patient with me, I'll catch up sooner or later

Quote:
Eddie / Pat,
Loved everything about this. Great song and video. Best of luck with the CD!
Bob

Bob, knowing that you are a pioneer on the forum , one of the first to use video with your songs.. and yours have always been so artsy and tasteful... I am especially appreciative that you took the time to watch and comment separately on the video! I value your opinion on the subject, and I appreciate that you shared it.
Posted by: eddie1261

Re: Here Goes Nuttin' - 09/30/15 09:04 PM

Just want to remind everybody that there are now just 19 days left to preorder my CD, "Saddle Sores". A 9 song collection of stories taken directly from my life. From broken hearts to car crashes to finding sobriety... it's all here! And for every dollar invested you get 4 minutes of music in return! The link is in my sig. Thanks again for the support I have already received. Coming from my forum friends it means a lot.
Posted by: Pat Marr

Re: Here Goes Nuttin' - 10/01/15 05:57 AM

looks like you made your pledge goal! Cool!

Congratulations!