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Posted By: RnAM HARD BELIEVING - 12/17/16 07:47 PM


Hello everyone,

This is our last forum post of 2016.
I consider this one of our best ballads. It features the beautiful Eddy Dunlap pedal steel guitar RT.
It wasn't easy to sing (took us quite a few takes) because the song's key wasn't really our comfort zone.
But it resulted in one of our most powerful harmonies, I think.

Any comments are welcome.

Rob

Style is _ATMSPH3.STY

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1543:Synth Pad, PopBelieve Ev16 065
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1542:Piano, Acoustic, Rhythm PopBelieve Ev16 065
Loop in Style: Chillout\Chillout - lounge_85_fx_f_sharp_minor.wav
Loop in Style: Chillout\Chillout - destiny_71_drum_loop_b_minor ev16.wav

Hard believing
It's what you made me do
No matter where we're falling
No matter where we look

Now did you leave
the best of worlds behind
could you not see
just what it is we'd find
Oh my love we should be healed

It's hard believing
With all the things you said
No matter where I'm running
Whatever love I'd get

How could I leave
your precious world behind
Too blind to see
It's only pain I'll find
Oh my Love you should be here

Hard believing
It's what you made me see
No matter where we'll end up
No matter what we'll be

Or did you need
me running back to you
Not make me see
just what it is you do

And all our dreams
What did they mean to you
All this revealed
My barren heart is sealed
Posted By: ROG Re: HARD BELIEVING - 12/17/16 08:18 PM
Hi Rob & Anne-Marie,

What a super power ballad.

Loved the whole thing, but in particular the pick-up at around 1.28 - beautiful bit of production.

Vocals? Maybe not in your comfort-zone, but you'd never know - both the lead vox and harmony are stunning.

Very atmospheric video to complete the package.

An excellent way to end the year.

ROG.
Posted By: Robertkc Re: HARD BELIEVING - 12/17/16 10:40 PM
Rob & Anne-Marie,

Terrific! Yes, you are ending the year on a high note.
The melody ( and your vocals ) are so captivating that its easy to float by the lyrics...and they are good, avoiding the big ballad cliches.
To my ears this has real commercial potential.
Lovely video images too.

Robert
Posted By: Buford Re: HARD BELIEVING - 12/17/16 10:50 PM
Wow...very nice. Pro in every way. Great vocals, production, instrumentation. Thanks for posting.

Bob
Posted By: colly Re: HARD BELIEVING - 12/17/16 11:25 PM
I think I posted a review on this..?

pro sound and again pro sound you got it as Roy Orbison would say.

I sent you a pm.

Hopefully you get the time to reply.


Take care
Posted By: PeterF Re: HARD BELIEVING - 12/17/16 11:48 PM
Rob & Ann-Marie

Just superb. Lovely vocals, excellent song. A great way to end the year with one of your best.

Peter
Posted By: RnAM Re: HARD BELIEVING - 12/18/16 02:35 PM
Thank you ROG for such a thoroughly positive comment! laugh
About the break:
It was quite tempting to do this, considering the beautiful style which already had a lot of "fullness" in it.

We wish you al the best and a very musical 2017.

Rob and Anne-Marie
Posted By: Charlie Fogle Re: HARD BELIEVING - 12/18/16 02:54 PM
What a song to end 2016 on. Great production, music and video.


As Rog noted, this is the complete package. Very enjoyable listen.


Charlie
Posted By: receder Re: HARD BELIEVING - 12/18/16 04:08 PM
Rob & Ann-Marie,

A great ballad to end the year on!

By the way, I loved the dark and moody colours in the video.

I and no doubt many others look forward to your future offerings in 2017.

All the best,
Jez
Posted By: Torrey Bliss Re: HARD BELIEVING - 12/18/16 05:06 PM
Rob, excellent work all the way around as always! Video and audio complement each other completely. Vocals shine! Thanks, T
Posted By: 44kfl Re: HARD BELIEVING - 12/18/16 09:29 PM
Your vocals make this song! Such a good power ballad, great mix, production.
Enjoyed!

Kenny
Posted By: Sundance Re: HARD BELIEVING - 12/18/16 10:35 PM
Beautiful! Wonderful sound. Some of the prettiest harmonies I've heard you do. Great arrangement of the backing tracks too.
Love it.
Posted By: Scott C Re: HARD BELIEVING - 12/18/16 11:00 PM
Awesome vocals and lyric. Well done Rob and Marie
Posted By: floyd jane Re: HARD BELIEVING - 12/19/16 10:35 AM
Rob & Anne-Marie,

I agree with all that's been said already. Your vocals and harmonies are always good - and this might be one of your best! Strong.

Excellent arrangement. Terrific build. Excellent mix. The piano is EQ'd nicely. Nice use of the steel (the new ones are a great addition to BIAB!).

Beautiful song. Nice video! A great listen (many, in fact).

Wishing you a productive 2017 (for our sake! smile )

fj
Posted By: tommyad Re: HARD BELIEVING - 12/19/16 11:26 AM
Originally Posted By: Sundance
Beautiful! Wonderful sound. Some of the prettiest harmonies I've heard you do. Great arrangement of the backing tracks too.
Love it.
I thought I commented on this but I must have been called away before I typed it in. Great job as usual. I really enjoyed it! Tom
Posted By: RnAM Re: HARD BELIEVING - 12/19/16 07:42 PM
Thank you Robert, we really hope to score that hit one day laugh
Posted By: rsdean Re: HARD BELIEVING - 12/20/16 09:46 AM
Rob,

Great song - very atmospheric... Outstanding vocals!

Bob
Posted By: Janice & Bud Re: HARD BELIEVING - 12/20/16 02:10 PM


What's left to say? It's the quintessential power ballad. Absolutely nothing left to add to it and nothing to take away.

The arrangement, vocals and both the audio and video production are spectacular. What a way to close out the year.

Have a great holiday season!

J&B
Posted By: Marty Sorensen Re: HARD BELIEVING - 12/20/16 02:29 PM
Very enjoyable. I'm learning so much from you. I hope some day to be able to produce such wonderful sound.
Posted By: RnAM Re: HARD BELIEVING - 12/20/16 06:11 PM
Thank you Bob, much appreciated!


Best wishes to you.

Rob & Anne-Marie
Posted By: Greg Johnson Re: HARD BELIEVING - 12/21/16 01:08 AM
It wasn't easy to sing .......would have never known it from the way you guys handled it!! This is beautifully done. "Hard believing" is an unusual use of English but that makes it a very intriguing and special. This may be my favorite of so many great songs you guys have posted. The pedal steel sounds completely custom. WONDERFUL!! Take care. Greg
Posted By: Noel96 Re: HARD BELIEVING - 12/21/16 03:34 AM
Originally Posted By: Sundance
Beautiful! Wonderful sound. Some of the prettiest harmonies I've heard you do. Great arrangement of the backing tracks too.
Love it.


Hi Rob and Anne-Marie,

I enthusiastically agree with Josie. This is an incredible sound. The way that the harmony, instruments, vocals, composition and arrangement all inter-twine to produce a fullness of musical texture that shines. 'Outstanding' is the word that bounced around in my mind as a I listened.

It certainly is a very fine audio-visual submission with which to conclude 2016.

All the best for Christmas and beyond,
Noel
Posted By: RnAM Re: HARD BELIEVING - 12/21/16 11:54 PM
thank you Colly,

Hope you got our PM.
Thank you for your positive comment!

Rob & Anne-Marie
Posted By: Al-David Re: HARD BELIEVING - 12/22/16 01:45 AM
Hi Rob & Anne-marie,

What a pleasure to hear your wonderful music again ... we've always thought you two were among the very best on these forums.

Once you've added all that's necessary and then take away anything not absolutely needed, most often the result is a fantastic musical creation. This is what you have here. everything needed for the sound was there and we heard absolutely nothing that shouldn't have been there. And as already said, the vocals are exceptional. This is a really great song!!!!

Merry Christmas and wishing you a fruitful 2017.

Alan & Di
Posted By: animarorecords Re: HARD BELIEVING - 12/22/16 04:07 AM
Hello, Rob & Anne-Marie

As Robert said, "Terrific! Yes, you are ending the year on a high note."
Your harmony is very beautiful and pleasant.
The combination of only a few instruments is favorable.
Enjoyed my listen a lot.

Best Regards.

Shigeki Adachi
Posted By: RnAM Re: HARD BELIEVING - 12/22/16 08:26 AM
Originally Posted By: PeterF
Rob & Ann-Marie

Just superb. Lovely vocals, excellent song. A great way to end the year with one of your best.

Peter


Thank you Peter!
Best wishes to you for 2017.

Rob & Anne-Marie
Posted By: Pat Marr Re: HARD BELIEVING - 12/22/16 09:30 PM
When the video opened with an aerial view of the beach, accompanied by a solitary guitar , I knew it was going to be good in the way that your productions always are.

You both have your fingers squarely on the pulse of a discerning audience, and you know how to raise the excitement level of your listeners by starting out good and then ramping it all up to the next level.

I liked the ramp up at the 1:30 mark when the pedal steel came in and the ambient background appeared. Very nice!

Meanwhile, the video masterfully and tastefully complemented the audio, making the whole presentation better than the sum of its parts.

I agree that the key you chose for the song resulted in a powerful performance from both of you.. but I'm curious to know why you didn't choose a key you felt more comfortable with. Was it because that key was the only one that put both of your parts in range at the same time?

As we end the year, let me thank you both for all the wonderful music you have presented her in this forum, and for the support you've shown for all of the other forum participants during 2016. You are among the elite as far as I'm concerned.
Posted By: Curt Young Re: HARD BELIEVING - 12/22/16 10:30 PM
VERY nice!

This is absolutely beautiful work, all the way around...
Posted By: RichMac Re: HARD BELIEVING - 12/23/16 12:33 AM
Wow! You two are so good.
Stunningly beautiful package with powerful lyrics and
most enjoyable nautical video.
Cheers.
Posted By: RnAM Re: HARD BELIEVING - 12/23/16 10:53 AM
thank you Charlie!
We wish you a very Merry Christmas and a musical 2017!

Rob & Anne-Marie
Posted By: 90 dB Re: HARD BELIEVING - 12/23/16 11:12 AM
Simply exquisite.


Merry Christmas!



Regards,

Bob
Posted By: RnAM Re: HARD BELIEVING - 12/24/16 03:04 PM
Thank you Jez,

We used Movieplus's glow filter on the video, One of the best filters out there.

All the best to you for 2017. And we are also definitely looking forward to your new creations as we have found that they are always good!

Rob & Anne-Marie
Posted By: David Snyder Re: HARD BELIEVING - 12/24/16 03:21 PM
Really beautiful!
Posted By: edshaw Re: HARD BELIEVING - 12/24/16 04:30 PM
Wonderful video. Very inspirational.
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.
Posted By: Elliott Kayne Re: HARD BELIEVING - 12/24/16 06:32 PM
Very Nice Production and Vocals
Posted By: RnAM Re: HARD BELIEVING - 12/24/16 10:43 PM
Originally Posted By: Torrey Bliss
Rob, excellent work all the way around as always! Video and audio complement each other completely. Vocals shine! Thanks, T


Thanks Torrey, we always appreciate your comments!
Best wishes to you for 2017.
Posted By: RnAM Re: HARD BELIEVING - 12/25/16 04:19 PM
Originally Posted By: 44kfl
Your vocals make this song! Such a good power ballad, great mix, production.
Enjoyed!

Kenny


Thank you Kenny, that is much appreciated!

We wish you all the best, and a very musical 2017.

Rob & Anne-Marie
Posted By: RnAM Re: HARD BELIEVING - 12/26/16 09:03 AM
Thank you Josie!
Hope you're having a wonderful Christmas, and we wish you a very musical 2017!

Rob & Anne-Marie
Posted By: MusiKevin Re: HARD BELIEVING - 12/27/16 06:24 AM
I think this is what they called "the whole package", everything of this song have been taken good care of, and together it sounds so so harmonized and beautiful, even what you call it "not comfort zone", but I guess sometimes you just need to squeeze yourself a little bit more smile (not sure about the correctness of my English expression...squeeze?)
Posted By: Caloo Re: HARD BELIEVING - 12/27/16 07:15 PM
Hi Anne-Marie and Rob, I have been absent from the forum for a while, but I am not surprised to find again your wonderful musical work.
Not to mention the video; finally the lady goes in water or not ? wink

All the best for 2017
Pascal
Posted By: F.M.M. Re: HARD BELIEVING - 12/28/16 07:08 PM
hi rnam awesome work love the vocals and the steel guitar great job eric
Posted By: RnAM Re: HARD BELIEVING - 12/28/16 11:43 PM
Originally Posted By: Scott C
Awesome vocals and lyric. Well done Rob and Marie


Thank you Scott, appreciated!
Posted By: RnAM Re: HARD BELIEVING - 12/28/16 11:45 PM
Originally Posted By: floyd jane
Rob & Anne-Marie,

I agree with all that's been said already. Your vocals and harmonies are always good - and this might be one of your best! Strong.

Excellent arrangement. Terrific build. Excellent mix. The piano is EQ'd nicely. Nice use of the steel (the new ones are a great addition to BIAB!).

Beautiful song. Nice video! A great listen (many, in fact).

Wishing you a productive 2017 (for our sake! smile )

fj



Thank you Floyd, for your very positive comments on our music throughout this year.
We wish you all the best and a very musical 2017. And we are sure you are going to manage that with top quality productions as we have grown so accustomed to ;-)


Rob & Anne-Marie
Posted By: Sergio Guarneri Re: HARD BELIEVING - 12/29/16 12:21 PM


The time passes away and you are always the same.

Another great song. Excellent background, excellent vocal and super video.

Only great music on PG MUSIC forum!!

Sergio
Posted By: RnAM Re: HARD BELIEVING - 12/29/16 09:42 PM
Originally Posted By: tommyad
Originally Posted By: Sundance
Beautiful! Wonderful sound. Some of the prettiest harmonies I've heard you do. Great arrangement of the backing tracks too.
Love it.
I thought I commented on this but I must have been called away before I typed it in. Great job as usual. I really enjoyed it! Tom



Thank you Tom!
Posted By: dcuny Re: HARD BELIEVING - 12/30/16 03:42 AM
There's a polish your work has that lifts your songs into "pro" category.

Somehow that button got left off my version of BiaB. Maybe they'll add it in 2018? wink

I'm sure the lyrics were great, but I confess that I had trouble listening to them, what with the smooth tone of your voice and the loveliness of the production distracting me.

Really, really nice.
Posted By: PeterGannon Re: HARD BELIEVING - 12/30/16 05:47 AM
Rob and Anne-Marie,

Great song and performances! Thanks for posting, and best wishes for the New Year!
Posted By: RnAM Re: HARD BELIEVING - 12/30/16 07:31 PM
Originally Posted By: PeterGannon
Rob and Anne-Marie,

Great song and performances! Thanks for posting, and best wishes for the New Year!


Thank you Peter! Appreciated. We wish you and the entire PG team a very successful and musical 2017.

Rob & Anne-Marie
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