It Sometimes Works That Way

Posted by: ROG

It Sometimes Works That Way - 10/25/20 04:21 PM

Hi All,

A little bit of throw-away Blues-Rock from me and Eddie.
The acoustic rhythm guitar, the OOHs and the Sax are all RTs.
The other guitars, the brass (Edirol) and Hammond (Trio) are mine.
Drums, as usual are our own samples, played back through Drum Source.
Eddie is on lead vocals and I'm putting in the harmony voices.

IT SOMETIMES WORKS THAT WAY
Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose
It makes no difference, which way you choose
It doesn't matter, the game you're in
You may lose but lawyers always win
It doesn't matter, there's nothing to say
There's nothing to do because it sometimes works that way

You pay your money, you make your choice
You've got a vote, so use your voice
But when you do, you see it plain
The faces change but things stay the same
It doesn't matter, there's nothing to say
There's nothing to do because it sometimes works that way

You go to work, you earn your pay
The same old grind, the same old way
Just keep it quiet, don't make a sound
'Cos credit travels up, and blame travels down
It doesn't matter, there's nothing to say
There's nothing to do because it sometimes works that way

Many thanks to everyone who gives it a listen.
Cheers,
ROG
Posted by: Robertkc

Re: It Sometimes Works That Way - 10/25/20 05:57 PM

ROG & Eddie,

Just keep it quiet, don't make a sound
'Cos credit travels up, and blame travels down
It doesn't matter, there's nothing to say
There's nothing to do because it sometimes works that way

isn`t that the truth- great lyrics!
The music somehow makes the message good fun, so job done you guys.
Love the brass and, as always your drum sound is among the best I hear on the forum ( you could market those samples).
Well done.

Robert
Posted by: Leon1

Re: It Sometimes Works That Way - 10/25/20 09:44 PM

Very nice collaboration, guys. Well sung and played. I was also struck by that 'credit travels up, and blame travels down' line. Too true.
Regards,
Leon
Posted by: floyd jane

Re: It Sometimes Works That Way - 10/26/20 02:10 AM

The combination of brass, organ and guitar is really well done.
Bass and drums sound good. All the elements work, in fact.
Oohs and BGVs are nice. Sax sounds like it was custom done..

A nice rhythm throughout. A good listen. Great mix.

fj
Posted by: musician17

Re: It Sometimes Works That Way - 10/26/20 02:41 AM

Just great. An excellent example of the Blues done right.
Posted by: rayc

Re: It Sometimes Works That Way - 10/26/20 03:49 AM

Cool - an abrupt beginning but you integrated the RTs ell. The horn section is pretty cool given the source.
Well done.
The harmony vocals do sound a little synthesized though.
Oh, the return from the break is weird - what did you do?
Posted by: BlueAttitude

Re: It Sometimes Works That Way - 10/26/20 03:54 AM



Loved the arrangement with the horns and nice use of the "Oohs".

Nice guitar hook, ROG. I was hoping for a solo, but the sax solo certainly worked well. Good vocals, and pro mix.

Sounds great guys, certainly not throw-away!
Posted by: Scott C

Re: It Sometimes Works That Way - 10/26/20 07:00 AM

Boy do I love the rhythm on this track. That horn section wowser. Very cool vocal. Got a Randy Bachman vibe. Guitar was excellent. Loved this tune
Posted by: CaptainMoto

Re: It Sometimes Works That Way - 10/26/20 08:06 AM

Nice thick sound.
Just enough ear candy to keep it moving and interesting.
Love the vocals.

Well done1

moto
Posted by: Crossroads

Re: It Sometimes Works That Way - 10/27/20 02:23 AM

Hi Rog,

yeah, that's what a good blues song needs: lack of illusions and a good bunch of pessimism. Although I disagree with verse #2 I really enjoyed the lyrics a lot !!!!

I was so pleased to hear you used brass - we don't hear that very often here. And they fitted like a glove - very well done, I think.

I also liked the approach of throwing in those 'un-bluesily' sounding vocals.

It's about 10 a.m. over here - that was a great song to begin the day with !!!!

Take care,

Stefan
Posted by: Janice & Bud

Re: It Sometimes Works That Way - 10/27/20 12:30 PM

Well, it had Janice doing a Blues Brothers shuffle dance from the get go smile

Shuffle blues are square in the middle of our wheelhouse so no problem enjoying this.

Good vocal and instrumental performances all the way. You on bass Rog? Nice.

All wrapped up in a great soundstage mix.

Well done y'all!

J&B
Posted by: Greg Johnson

Re: It Sometimes Works That Way - 10/27/20 05:36 PM

Love it!! A good dose of cynicism can be cathartic at times!! Love this line:

Cos credit travels up, and blame travels down

Is that an original? Great stuff!! Take care. Greg
Posted by: eddie1261

Re: It Sometimes Works That Way - 10/27/20 07:05 PM

Originally Posted By: Greg Johnson
Love it!! A good dose of cynicism can be cathartic at times!! Love this line:

Cos credit travels up, and blame travels down

Is that an original? Great stuff!! Take care. Greg


Rog wrote it. I did some minor lyric tweaking just to make syllables line up with the pulses in the rhythm and sang it. Often I add a verse, or replace a verse, or have to totally crate a verse to add to what Rog sends over. In this case, the lyrics he wrote were the lyrics I would have written so this one was easy for me. Just a few passes singing it to give him something to cut and paste for accuracy and timing and it was done.
Posted by: Birchwood

Re: It Sometimes Works That Way - 10/28/20 05:27 AM

Hi Rog and Eddy,

What a nice Blues you delivered. I liked it. I didn't do any shuffle like Janice did, but it moved my feet. That means the song is good, or cool. I was also positively surprised the horns worked out so well. I rarely use them in my songs (once, I think) but here they accentuate or cary the mood of the song very well!
I do agree with Ray thought that those harmony vocals can use a bit of Melodyne.

But beside that, I really enjoyed this song!
Hans
Posted by: Deryk - PG Music

Re: It Sometimes Works That Way - 10/28/20 05:58 AM

Very good work here - the arrangement is spot on, and the lyrics are delivered perfectly, as well as being all to relatable. Nicely catchy as well. I wouldn't change a thing here - thanks for sharing smile
Posted by: F.M.M.

Re: It Sometimes Works That Way - 10/28/20 07:26 AM

Hi Rog and Eddie i thought this was excellent loved the vocals guitars the mix and the lyrics were awesome thanks for sharing Eric
Posted by: ROG

Re: It Sometimes Works That Way - 10/28/20 07:31 AM

Originally Posted By: Robertkc
ROG & Eddie,

Just keep it quiet, don't make a sound
'Cos credit travels up, and blame travels down
It doesn't matter, there's nothing to say
There's nothing to do because it sometimes works that way

isn`t that the truth- great lyrics!
The music somehow makes the message good fun, so job done you guys.
Love the brass and, as always your drum sound is among the best I hear on the forum ( you could market those samples).
Well done.

Robert

Hi Robert,

Many thanks for all the kind comments, especially about the drums. I've been
building up the samples for over thirty years and the 80s one's started out as
eight-bit samples, but they still work well.

A few people have picked up on the line "credit travels up and blame travels down"
so let me explain where it comes from. For much of my life I've done session work
and this is a phrase which was in common use amongst session musicians. If a song
was a "hit", then the band took the credit, but if it was a "flop" then the band
blamed the producer, who in turn blamed the engineer, who then blamed the session
musicians. The session musicians just developed thick skins.

Once again, many thanks for the review.

ROG.
Posted by: ROG

Re: It Sometimes Works That Way - 10/28/20 07:33 AM

Originally Posted By: Leon1
Very nice collaboration, guys. Well sung and played. I was also struck by that 'credit travels up, and blame travels down' line. Too true.
Regards,
Leon

Hi Leon,
Thanks for the listen and review.
See my reply to Robert about THAT line!
Cheers,
ROG.
Posted by: eddie1261

Re: It Sometimes Works That Way - 10/28/20 07:42 AM

Originally Posted By: ROG

A few people have picked up on the line "credit travels up and blame travels down"
so let me explain where it comes from. For much of my life I've done session work
and this is a phrase which was in common use amongst session musicians. If a song
was a "hit", then the band took the credit, but if it was a "flop" then the band
blamed the producer, who in turn blamed the engineer, who then blamed the session
musicians. The session musicians just developed thick skins.


That is a perfect metaphor for life in general as well. The people doing the actual work get nothing and their boss gets the promotion and pay raise. But boy, let a server go down at 3:41am.....
Posted by: PeterF

Re: It Sometimes Works That Way - 10/28/20 11:44 PM

Rog

A very impressive blues - well sung by Eddie. Nice horn arrangement, guitar playing and lyric.

Enjoyed the song and production.

Peter
Posted by: Charlie Fogle

Re: It Sometimes Works That Way - 10/29/20 04:28 AM

This is great. Loved it from start to finish. The song really sits well for Eddie's vocals and the backing vox and brass are really smooth. Enjoyed this from start to finish. Good Collaboration.
Posted by: BabuMusic

Re: It Sometimes Works That Way - 10/29/20 05:15 AM

Loved it! Great band, and a excellent lyrics. Well written and excellently presented.
Posted by: ROG

Re: It Sometimes Works That Way - 10/29/20 03:59 PM

Originally Posted By: floyd jane
The combination of brass, organ and guitar is really well done.
Bass and drums sound good. All the elements work, in fact.
Oohs and BGVs are nice. Sax sounds like it was custom done..

A nice rhythm throughout. A good listen. Great mix.

fj

Hi Floyd,
Many thanks - much appreciated.
I'm just learning how to get the best out of the new vocal RTs, but
the sax RTs I've loved from the start. Great sounds and easier to
work with than some sax players I've encountered!
Cheers,
ROG.
Posted by: ROG

Re: It Sometimes Works That Way - 10/29/20 04:00 PM

Originally Posted By: musician17
Just great. An excellent example of the Blues done right.

Hi,
Many thanks for the listen and review.
Cheers,
ROG.
Posted by: ROG

Re: It Sometimes Works That Way - 10/29/20 04:07 PM

Originally Posted By: rayc
Cool - an abrupt beginning but you integrated the RTs ell. The horn section is pretty cool given the source.
Well done.
The harmony vocals do sound a little synthesized though.
Oh, the return from the break is weird - what did you do?

Hi Ray,
The harmony vocals are using my old Syntovox vocoder. They sounded too
straight for this song, so I gave them a bit of an edge.
I wanted a bit of a step-change after the break, which is what I think you mean,
but weird is fine.
Many thanks for the review.
Cheers,
ROG.
Posted by: Derochette

Re: It Sometimes Works That Way - 10/31/20 02:28 PM

Hello Rog,

I liked your very realistic lyrics compared to the life we ​​live. Your voice lends itself perfectly to the blues rock orchestration that you offer us. It's pleasant. Morality, it is better to be on the winning side if you have had the chance to draw the right lottery ticket. Well done.

Kindly regard

Dero13
alias JaniJackFlash
Posted by: Deej56

Re: It Sometimes Works That Way - 10/31/20 09:02 PM

ROG,

Wow, great stuff out of the gate! Killer blues. Really pulls the listener in—great lead guitar work, and love that hook. The brass is outstanding on this. Excellent work on this gentlemen! Loved it!

Kind regards,

Deej
Posted by: ROG

Re: It Sometimes Works That Way - 11/01/20 02:52 PM

Originally Posted By: BlueAttitude


Loved the arrangement with the horns and nice use of the "Oohs".

Nice guitar hook, ROG. I was hoping for a solo, but the sax solo certainly worked well. Good vocals, and pro mix.

Sounds great guys, certainly not throw-away!


Hi Dave,
Many thanks for the positive review.
Having put guitar on the extended intro, I thought I'd let the sax have the solo - I just love those sax RTs.
Really enjoying your tracks with Chris, but also your solo stuff.
Thanks again.
ROG.
Posted by: ROG

Re: It Sometimes Works That Way - 11/01/20 02:55 PM

Originally Posted By: Scott C
Boy do I love the rhythm on this track. That horn section wowser. Very cool vocal. Got a Randy Bachman vibe. Guitar was excellent. Loved this tune

Hi Scott,
Many thanks for the comments - we worked hard to get the groove right and the horn section took
a bit of work, so much appreciated. Randy Bachman? Great - thanks for that as well.
Cheers,
ROG.
Posted by: ROG

Re: It Sometimes Works That Way - 11/01/20 02:56 PM

Originally Posted By: CaptainMoto
Nice thick sound.
Just enough ear candy to keep it moving and interesting.
Love the vocals.

Well done1
moto

Hi Cap'n,
Thanks for looking in and the positive review.
Cheers,
ROG.
Posted by: ROG

Re: It Sometimes Works That Way - 11/01/20 03:01 PM

Originally Posted By: Crossroads
Hi Rog,

yeah, that's what a good blues song needs: lack of illusions and a good bunch of pessimism. Although I disagree with verse #2 I really enjoyed the lyrics a lot !!!!

I was so pleased to hear you used brass - we don't hear that very often here. And they fitted like a glove - very well done, I think.

I also liked the approach of throwing in those 'un-bluesily' sounding vocals.

It's about 10 a.m. over here - that was a great song to begin the day with !!!!

Take care,

Stefan

Hi Stefan,
Yes, my thinly veiled cynicism was showing through a bit on this one eek.
Thanks for the positives about the brass and the vocals - much appreciated.
Cheers,
ROG.
Posted by: ROG

Re: It Sometimes Works That Way - 11/03/20 02:56 PM

Originally Posted By: Janice & Bud
Well, it had Janice doing a Blues Brothers shuffle dance from the get go smile

Shuffle blues are square in the middle of our wheelhouse so no problem enjoying this.

Good vocal and instrumental performances all the way. You on bass Rog? Nice.

All wrapped up in a great soundstage mix.

Well done y'all!

J&B

Hi there J&B,
Always pleased to get a review from you two and loved the mental picture of Janice doing the shuffle!
Many thanks for all the nice comments and really pleased you liked it.
Cheers,
ROG.
Posted by: ROG

Re: It Sometimes Works That Way - 11/03/20 02:59 PM

Originally Posted By: Greg Johnson
Love it!! A good dose of cynicism can be cathartic at times!! Love this line:

Cos credit travels up, and blame travels down

Is that an original? Great stuff!! Take care. Greg

Hi Greg,
Many thanks for looking in and for the review.
About "that" line - please see my reply to Robert at the top of the thread for
full details of where that came from!
Cheers,
ROG.
Posted by: ROG

Re: It Sometimes Works That Way - 11/03/20 03:02 PM

Originally Posted By: Birchwood
Hi Rog and Eddy,

What a nice Blues you delivered. I liked it. I didn't do any shuffle like Janice did, but it moved my feet. That means the song is good, or cool. I was also positively surprised the horns worked out so well. I rarely use them in my songs (once, I think) but here they accentuate or carry the mood of the song very well!
I do agree with Ray thought that those harmony vocals can use a bit of Melodyne.

But beside that, I really enjoyed this song!
Hans

Hi Hans,
Thanks for the nice comments.
The lead sax was an RT, but the brass section was midi from Edirol Orchestral which
is rather an old program by todays standards, but I still use it all the time.
Cheers,
ROG.
Posted by: ROG

Re: It Sometimes Works That Way - 11/04/20 02:46 PM

Originally Posted By: Deryk - PG Music
Very good work here - the arrangement is spot on, and the lyrics are delivered perfectly, as well as being all to relatable. Nicely catchy as well. I wouldn't change a thing here - thanks for sharing smile

Hi Deryk,
Many thanks for the positive comments.
Cheers,
ROG.
Posted by: ROG

Re: It Sometimes Works That Way - 11/04/20 02:47 PM

Originally Posted By: F.M.M.
Hi Rog and Eddie i thought this was excellent loved the vocals guitars the mix and the lyrics were awesome thanks for sharing Eric

Hi Eric,
Many thanks for the listen - much appreciated.
Cheers,
ROG.
Posted by: ROG

Re: It Sometimes Works That Way - 11/04/20 02:49 PM

Originally Posted By: PeterF
Rog

A very impressive blues - well sung by Eddie. Nice horn arrangement, guitar playing and lyric.

Enjoyed the song and production.

Peter


Hi Peter,
Thanks for the review and pleased that you enjoyed it.
Cheers,
ROG.
Posted by: Ezekiel's Storm

Re: It Sometimes Works That Way - 11/04/20 04:36 PM

This is quite the jaunty number, init?

I, too, love the addition of the brass. I really like the vocal sound and melody on the "It doesn't matter..." lines. Awesome.
Posted by: ROG

Re: It Sometimes Works That Way - 11/08/20 02:50 PM

Originally Posted By: Charlie Fogle
This is great. Loved it from start to finish. The song really sits well for Eddie's vocals and the backing vox and brass are really smooth. Enjoyed this from start to finish. Good Collaboration.

Hi Charlie,
Many thanks for the review and all the positive comments - much appreciated.
Cheers,
ROG.
Posted by: ROG

Re: It Sometimes Works That Way - 11/08/20 02:51 PM

Originally Posted By: BabuMusic
Loved it! Great band, and a excellent lyrics. Well written and excellently presented.

Hi Marty,
Thanks for the listen and review - pleased you liked it.
Cheers,
ROG.
Posted by: ROG

Re: It Sometimes Works That Way - 11/08/20 02:53 PM

Originally Posted By: Dero13
Hello Rog,

I liked your very realistic lyrics compared to the life we ​​live. Your voice lends itself perfectly to the blues rock orchestration that you offer us. It's pleasant. Morality, it is better to be on the winning side if you have had the chance to draw the right lottery ticket. Well done.

Kindly regard

Dero13
alias JaniJackFlash

Many thanks, Dero. Still waiting for that lottery win!
Cheers,
ROG.
Posted by: eddie1261

Re: It Sometimes Works That Way - 11/08/20 05:25 PM

Originally Posted By: Janice & Bud
Well, it had Janice doing a Blues Brothers shuffle dance from the get go smile


Cool! The "Janice Shuffle" was what we were going for!!! Sure sign of success!
Posted by: ROG

Re: It Sometimes Works That Way - 11/09/20 02:38 PM

Originally Posted By: Deej56
ROG,

Wow, great stuff out of the gate! Killer blues. Really pulls the listener in—great lead guitar work, and love that hook. The brass is outstanding on this. Excellent work on this gentlemen! Loved it!

Kind regards,

Deej

Hi Deej,
Thanks for the listen, the review, and all the really positive comments - much appreciated.
Cheers,
ROG.
Posted by: ROG

Re: It Sometimes Works That Way - 11/09/20 02:40 PM

Originally Posted By: Ezekiel's Storm
This is quite the jaunty number, init?

I, too, love the addition of the brass. I really like the vocal sound and melody on the "It doesn't matter..." lines. Awesome.

Hi Ezekiel,
Many thanks indeed for the review and the complements - greatly appreciated.
Cheers,
ROG.
Posted by: tommyad

Re: It Sometimes Works That Way - 11/09/20 03:17 PM

ROG & Eddie, That sure ain't no throwaway! That is some bad A$$ Blues rock. The vocal is really well done as is the lead guitar. The production is as expected. A great listen and a really cool write, Tom
Posted by: TuneMonger

Re: It Sometimes Works That Way - 11/09/20 03:55 PM

Great stuff, right up my alley, everything came together so well, Edirol horns still more than good enough, drums were nice, vox perfect.
Posted by: ROG

Re: It Sometimes Works That Way - 11/12/20 02:50 PM

Originally Posted By: tommyad
ROG & Eddie, That sure ain't no throwaway! That is some bad A$$ Blues rock. The vocal is really well done as is the lead guitar. The production is as expected. A great listen and a really cool write, Tom

Hi Tom,
Great to hear from you.
Pleased you liked the song and many thanks for the review - much appreciated.
Cheers,
ROG.
Posted by: ROG

Re: It Sometimes Works That Way - 11/12/20 02:59 PM

Originally Posted By: TuneMonger
Great stuff, right up my alley, everything came together so well, Edirol horns still more than good enough, drums were nice, vox perfect.

Hi TM,
The Edirol Orchestral program cost me a lot of cash many years ago, but
I think I've had value for money. It's just a shame it's discontinued now.
Glad you approved of the song and many thanks for the review.
Cheers,
ROG.