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Posted By: Derochette Green line - 01/10/21 05:56 PM
Hi the Members of biab,

On this site, little electro music is offered. This is due to the available realtracks which are few in number (as in the symphony orchestra). To compose electro music, I start from vst biab for chords, I look for midi biab files (often forgotten by the years) which can give a melody. If so, I replace the sounds with electro vst and it works. For this composition, I selected vst sample logics and heavyocity to give a cachet and perfect the arrangement. In my daw studio, I imported my chords, which made it easier for me with the other solo midi tracks from Biab. And it works. Electro music is mainly based on an assembly of loops offered by specific vsts. The work is based more on sound than on melody. Now, the result may or may not be popular. But here I am showing an opening with my favorite biab tool. The next soundtrack, I will only do it with biab realtracks.

It's up to you to judge, but feedback would be a pleasure to allow me to progress.

Thank you again to the community.

This soundtrack (style movie music) bears the name of Green line. The link is

https://soundcloud.com/user-318966631/green-line

The link to my other tracks is :

https://soundcloud.com/user-318966631

Kindly regards

Derochette
alias JaniJackFlash



Posted By: dani48 Re: Green line - 01/10/21 06:22 PM
Hi, Jani !

I think you are something
of a master in this genré
which must be everything but easy !
I found your composition
most interesting and in a way
a little haunting too !

Nice experience to me !

Cheers
Dani
Posted By: Derochette Re: Green line - 01/10/21 06:31 PM
Hi Dany,

Thank you for this nice compliment. I tried to show that Biab is a great tool especially with its vst. Composing electro is rare on this site and I wanted to show that the more administrators develop realtracks of all styles, the more their product will be highlighted the more they will have a commercial success but only the staff is he aware of it ?

Please follow me on soundcloud

Kindly regard

Derochette
Alias JaniJackFlah
Posted By: CaptainMoto Re: Green line - 01/10/21 09:49 PM
Got my heart pumping!
I have no idea what you where explaining, I'm a total rookie at BIAB.
You seem to be a master.

moto
Posted By: Derochette Re: Green line - 01/11/21 06:39 AM
Hi CaptainMoto,

Whatever the style, I wanted to show that Biab is a facilitating tool for any composer, especially with the last vst which is super well done. Here, it's a soundtrack of loops on predefined melodic lines. The game is here to choose the right loops to create something coherent

Thank you for passing on this atypical Biab composition and for having commented

Kindly regards
Take care of yourself

Derochette
alias JaniJackFlash
Posted By: Ghostgum Re: Green line - 01/11/21 08:24 AM
Reminds me of the work of Jean-Michel Jarre (1970s). Interesting vibe and well put together.
Posted By: rayc Re: Green line - 01/11/21 08:40 AM
That is really effective...I'm not a MIDI fan, preferring analogue sythn based electronica BUT good is good and this is good.
This is my, current, fave place for analogue electronic music of late...
HAINBACH
Well done.
Posted By: Deryk - PG Music Re: Green line - 01/11/21 11:02 AM
Ghostgum mentioned it already - but for me as well, this reminds me of Jean-Michel Jarre as well. You should be proud - really showing how far you can stretch Band-in-a-Box's capabilities! Thanks for sharing smile
Posted By: floyd jane Re: Green line - 01/11/21 11:46 AM
Derochette,


This is EXCELLENT! Great music. Done well. Great mix.

I enjoyed your discussion of BIAB and how it can (and cannot) be used to create certain styles of music. Like you, I use loops (as discussed in my current song), but in a different way and probably not as much as you do.
I think you are going about it the right way. Use BIAB for what it works for and work around the things that are needed.
Personally, I do not think that PGMusic should try to make BIAB cover EVERYTHING. Some things are better left to other sources. (Your orchestra sounds, for instance).
You've done a great job of using the tools available in the best way.

This is truly EXCEPTIONAL.

Keep it up!!

fj
Posted By: Derochette Re: Green line - 01/11/21 04:27 PM
Hi Ghostgum,

You are totally right. Michel Jarre I think I bring a lot to electro. Your comment is flattering. Thank you.

Kindly regards
Take care of yourself

Derochette
alias JaniJackFlash
Posted By: Derochette Re: Green line - 01/11/21 04:35 PM
Hi rayc,

With the right tools anyone can play electro. Many make it in younger children by adding accapella and well-suited drums. But often the originality and the melody are absent, unlike the musicians who deposit their compositions on this site. I appreciated your comment and it's true that producing an electro soundtrack with a synth is far more rewarding.
Thanks to you.

Kindly regards
Take care of yourself

Derochette
alias JaniJackFlash
Posted By: Derochette Re: Green line - 01/11/21 04:48 PM
Hi Deryk,

It is an honor to read your comment. Your vst really meets the demand of the users of your tool and I thank you for it. To create compositions or soundtracks, everyone has their own working method, but it is clear that Biab is a facilitating tool in all styles. Creating realtracks in electro would be a waste of time given the vsts on the market and their rich and entertaining bookstore. On the other hand, in orchestral, it would be nice to have a larger panel including several quartet realtracks in different tempos.

Thank you for your nice comment.

Kindly regards
Take care of yourself

Derochette
alias JaniJackFlash

Posted By: Derochette Re: Green line - 01/11/21 05:13 PM
Hi floyd jane,

Hi floyd jane,

It's always a pleasure to read your comments. From one soundtrack to another, I use different ways of composing but I always start from Biab. What I also noticed is the richness of the oldest midi styles (often forgotten) in which we can take ideas. In electro, I rarely composed but I like to try my hand at different styles. Here I am glad you enjoyed this essay. Thanks to you.

Kindly regards
Take care of yourself

Derochette
alias JaniJackFlash
Posted By: BlueAttitude Re: Green line - 01/12/21 07:51 AM

This is not a genre I would normally listen to, but this is great, enjoyed it from start to finish.

Well done!
Posted By: AudioTrack Re: Green line - 01/12/21 09:00 AM
Another excellent example of pushing the boundaries, possibly far beyond most peoples comfort zone.

The structure is interesting and vibrant, full of surprises.

An excellent delivery of esoteric musical sounds.
Posted By: Gary Weder Re: Green line - 01/12/21 10:18 AM

Hi Derochette
Make your own Usertracks....read on.
I agree with your concerns about the lack of biab "Electro" options. MIDI was a dirty word for many years but is now making a comeback with improved patches and VST's . It has many advantages over loops such as note manipulation , quantising, easy key and tempo changes. The challenge I find with loops is to have a beginning, middle and end that doesn't all sound the same . At the moment I am auditioning my synths for good "Techno" sounds to use on my own usertracks . The advantage of usertracks is that you have your favourite sounds instantly at hand ; we all know how quickly that brilliant melody idea can go flying out the window! Oh and I forgot ... I enjoyed your track .
My 2¢
Gary.
Posted By: BabuMusic Re: Green line - 01/12/21 03:14 PM
Whoa, Jani!! Floored me, then knocked me out. Gave it a couple spins and my appreciation and respect grew 10-fold. Dang, dude, this is a great movie track. It can be used in nearly every movie genre.
Posted By: Derochette Re: Green line - 01/12/21 04:53 PM
Hi BlueAttitude,

I am in a period where I try different styles. Thank you for your comment.

Kindly regards
Take care of yourself

Derochette
alias JaniJackFlash
Posted By: Derochette Re: Green line - 01/12/21 05:01 PM
Hi VideoTrack,

Thank you for your appreciation, but it's easier for me to get out of my comfort zone because I have some good electro vst. And then I really like to experiment with other styles where I'm not a specialist.

Kindly regards
Take care of yourself

Derochette
alias JaniJackFlash
Posted By: Derochette Re: Green line - 01/12/21 05:20 PM
Hi Gary,

What you are saying is absolutely true. But I come back to the last version of Biab which from a realtrack gives us the midi version and we can easily change instrument with a vst. I take for example, one of my soundtracks "Rondo of love" where I replaced a violin track by a vst mandolin. I did not take the midi track as is but I adapted it according to the instrument. Noon still has some bright days ahead of it. Finally thank you for your nice comment.

Kindly regards
Take care of yourself

Derochette
alias JaniJackFlash
Posted By: Derochette Re: Green line - 01/12/21 05:23 PM
Hi BubuMusic?

I'm happy to read you. And I'm glad you enjoyed my soundtrack in a style that I haven't mastered yet

Kindly regards
Take care of yourself

Derochette
alias JaniJackFlash
Posted By: Gemini Re: Green line - 01/12/21 05:57 PM
Sounds great really...
Posted By: TuneMonger Re: Green line - 01/12/21 11:37 PM
Took me about three listens to warm up to it. Then it got real cool to me. Loved the ebb and flow of energy. I would listen to more music like this. Great work!
Posted By: Derochette Re: Green line - 01/13/21 04:45 PM
Hi Gemini,

I don't know you very well yet. I'm going to go discover your compositions. Thank you for your comment.

Kindly regards
Take care of yourself

Derochette
alias JaniJackFlash
Posted By: Derochette Re: Green line - 01/13/21 04:55 PM
Hi TuneMonger

Hi,

It's a pleasure to see your comment on my atypical soundtrack. You know that I also appreciate your compositions and I was particularly touched on the comment you had made on one of my songs "Suffering in the Slaugterhouses".

Kindly regards
Take care of yourself

Derochette
alias JaniJackFlash
Posted By: Deej56 Re: Green line - 01/13/21 06:37 PM
Derochette,

I’ll add my voice to the accolades. Outstanding throughout—the mix is superb. Could easily see this as music backing to film, video, etc. The technical approach you describe is well beyond me, but the result is impressive. For a song in and of itself, perhaps it runs a bit long . . .. but I don’t think that’s the intent. As a score, it’s perfect. Well done!

All my best,

Deej
Posted By: Derochette Re: Green line - 01/15/21 05:25 PM
Hi Deej56,

I appreciated your comment. It is true that the electro sounds are not usual on this site. And I'm very glad you like it. It's a soundtrack where you enter the atmosphere created or not. And that according to his sensibilities and his affinities. Thank you again.

I would like to apologize for the delay in my responses lately. But I have little time to devote to my favorite hobby and to listen to your songs. I'll make up for it this weekend.

Kindly regards
Take care of yourself

Derochette
alias JaniJackFlash
Posted By: Robertkc Re: Green line - 01/15/21 08:26 PM
Derochette,
A very skillfully conceived and executed composition with enough shifts in instrumental layers and dynamics to keep me attentive throughout.
Good to hear someone stretching BiaB in new directions.

Robert
Posted By: MarioD Re: Green line - 01/15/21 08:46 PM
You had me from the git-go. I had a flashback to the 70's and the first electronic music such as Jean-Michel Jarre, Tangerine Dream, Vangelis, Kitaro, etc. This is as good as they are IMHO.

Plus I like how individuals take BiaB to different genres and really stretch its capabilities. Hopefully PGMusic will see/hear these different genres and produce RTs and MIDI styles for them.

I really enjoyed this song.
Posted By: Derochette Re: Green line - 01/17/21 08:15 AM
Hi Robertkc,

I'm glad you liked my soundtrack. It is true that Biab can adapt to all styles especially with its vst version which fits perfectly into all daws. Thank you for your comment.

Kindly regards
Take care of yourself

Derochette
alias JaniJackFlash
Posted By: Derochette Re: Green line - 01/17/21 08:24 AM
Hi MarioD,

I am flattered by your nice comment and I thank you for it It is true that Biab favors certain styles / You're right, the staff should enrich their Rts, especially in orchestral with their string quartet, which lends itself better to it only for electro where there are already many tools with well thought out sounds. Thanks again.

Kindly regards
Take care of yourself

Derochette
alias JaniJackFlash
Posted By: Janice & Bud Re: Green line - 01/17/21 12:21 PM
This a showcase for the power and versatility of BiaB in talented hands.

As just simple RT/RD users we are very impressed with what you have done.

No doubt a lot of thought and effort went into this production.

Excellent!

J&B
Posted By: Derochette Re: Green line - 01/17/21 06:00 PM
Hi Janice, Bud and Peter,

I am always happy to see your comments and respect you for me and the others Biab’s members. you take your time to personalize your responses to comment our compositions.

Thank you also for your positive comment on my electro soundtrack. To come to Biab, the staff made a big leap on the future of the product by releasing a well-tied vst biab. It fits perfectly into the different daws on the market.

Kindly regards
Take care of yourself

Derochette
alias JaniJackFlash
Posted By: Scott C Re: Green line - 01/19/21 01:45 PM
What a cool song. the BBC Symphonie was giving away some free vst virtual instruments. I took advantage of that. Floyd made mention of it in one of his posts. I was using melodyne to convert some guitar audio tracks to midi and was replacing them with cellos and violins. I think midi is over looked in favor of the real tracks. There are some very cool creative tools out there. You have produced some really nice sounds.
Posted By: Derochette Re: Green line - 01/20/21 12:28 PM
Hi Scott C,

Biab is a very nice product. It allows us to combine RT and midi tracks. On the audio tracks, you quote melodyn which is very good. It allows us to correct some notes which sound wrong from RT but also, it tries to create a midi file. This works well on RT since there is only one instrument at a time. This is what I did on my Rondo of love soundtrack, where I extracted from an RT violin, the midi file to replace this instrument with a mandolin instrument.
Thank you for your nice comment and your sharing on your way of composing..

Kindly regards
Take care of yourself

Derochette
alias JaniJackFlash
Posted By: Rustyspoon# Re: Green line - 01/20/21 10:48 PM
JaniJackFlash,
Interesting progression and fantastic sound design! Kept me focused till the end. Mix is very good. Liked it. Thank you for sharing.

Misha.
Posted By: Leon1 Re: Green line - 01/21/21 01:55 AM
Very atmospheric composition. I don't listen to much electro music, but like Ray says, good is good.
Regards,
Leon
Posted By: Derochette Re: Green line - 01/21/21 04:07 PM
Hi Rustyspoon,

Glad you like it. Thanks for dropping by and commenting.

Kindly regards
Take care of yourself

Derochette
alias JaniJackFlash
Posted By: Derochette Re: Green line - 01/21/21 04:09 PM
Hi Leon1,

I am not an electro specialist. But like any musician, I try other styles. And I thank you for your comment.

Kindly regards
Take care of yourself

Derochette
alias JaniJackFlash
Posted By: Will Josef Re: Green line - 01/23/21 12:01 PM
Hi Derochette,

Wonderful, atmospheric track. Like you, I wish people would start to use the midi tracks more and make other genres of music than what you can do with the RealTracks.
I love experimenting with the midi tracks as well... and using them with different synths of my own choice.

I hope you will share more music of this kind, because it is really refreshing to hear something with an electronic feel to it (whether you call it cinematic, chillout or ambient...).

Thanks a lot for sharing!
Will
Posted By: Greg Johnson Re: Green line - 01/23/21 08:40 PM
Someone made reference to a movie score. This could be PERFECT for certain scenes!!! I could imagine a person hiding from a Terminator type character with this rolling during the scene. GREAT GREAT STUFF!!! Take care. Greg
Posted By: Derochette Re: Green line - 01/24/21 01:44 PM
Hi Josef,

A big thank you for your nice comment. It is true that it would be interesting for Biab to import short midi sequences in order to be able to put them directly on the chord grid and see what it gives because many users have excellent vst. I think but I may be wrong that this is not the case now. At present, we can import the midi file of a whole melody and Biab finds the suitable chords. but it does not allow to directly affect noon on the chord grid. This development would have the advantages of being able to touch many styles at a lower cost and to compete with products like captain plugins, sundog, orb composer suite, synfire pro or rapidcomposer. Thank you again for your constructive comment.

Kindly regards
Take care of yourself

Derochette
alias JaniJackFlash
Posted By: Derochette Re: Green line - 01/24/21 01:48 PM
Hi Greg,

It's always good to read you. Electro is not my favorite style but I like to try out different styles. And I'm glad you like this soundtrack. Thanks to you.

Kindly regards
Take care of yourself

Derochette
alias JaniJackFlash
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