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Posted By: Charlie Fogle Chord Chart Timeline Improvement - 07/09/20 08:53 AM
I have started using the Chord Chart Timeline more in my compositions and found where there are a number of chorus's and part markers, it's difficult to quickly determine the exact bar and chorus position.

I currently reference two Icons from the View and Tracks Menus to locate the 'first' Bar of each Chorus 1,33,65, etc and request a small change in the timeline bars at these points by either changing the color, font size or otherwise mark these points for better visual time mapping.

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Posted By: AudioTrack Re: Chord Chart Timeline Improvement - 07/09/20 10:49 AM
I agree that much better visual indications on that timeline would be a big improvement.
(Also, does it need to show every part marker? E.g. If some items were optional, it would make for a cleaner and more readable display, especially cursor position)

+1
Posted By: Matt Finley Re: Chord Chart Timeline Improvement - 07/09/20 12:19 PM
+1

Charlie, just clarifying, it would pick up the new marking (whatever it is) from the repeats, yes? In this case, bar 1 through 32 is a chorus. It would change if you had an intro. Let's say your intro is bars 1 - 8, and the new chorus "once through the song" is 9 through 40. Then the new 'first bar of the chorus' would be a marking on bar 9, 41 etc.
Posted By: Lloyd S Re: Chord Chart Timeline Improvement - 07/09/20 12:39 PM
+1

Could each "chorus" be a different background color on that timeline?
Or at least alternate between 2 "selectible" pastel colors.
Then the intro or outro could also be different colors.

Just trying to think "out loud" here.

LLOYD S
Posted By: Charlie Fogle Re: Chord Chart Timeline Improvement - 07/09/20 10:16 PM
Originally Posted By: Matt Finley
+1

Charlie, just clarifying, it would pick up the new marking (whatever it is) from the repeats, yes? In this case, bar 1 through 32 is a chorus. It would change if you had an intro. Let's say your intro is bars 1 - 8, and the new chorus "once through the song" is 9 through 40. Then the new 'first bar of the chorus' would be a marking on bar 9, 41 etc.


<<< it would pick up the new marking (whatever it is) from the repeats, yes? >>>

That isn't normally an issue because I use the Part markers to mark the structure most of my charts between intro's, verse, Chorus, Bridge or whatever. My issue is looking at the main chord chart on the 2nd or 3rd chorus of a 4-5 chorus song and the song isn't unfolded, each chorus looks the same including the numbers and it takes more than a moment to find my place.

It's no big deal but I noticed it was a repeating pattern of having to search for my place in the Chord Chart on a recent song and likely an easy fix for PG Music developers. Because the chord Chart layout is 1-32 bars selection per chorus, the first bar of each chorus falls under the icons above the timeline gave me the idea a proper marker would be a better idea. Those icons probably won't work if I change the layout to display 8 bars across rather than the default four.
Posted By: Charlie Fogle Re: Chord Chart Timeline Improvement - 07/14/20 11:22 PM
Originally Posted By: Lloyd S
+1

Could each "chorus" be a different background color on that timeline?
Or at least alternate between 2 "selectible" pastel colors.
Then the intro or outro could also be different colors.

Just trying to think "out loud" here.

LLOYD S


That would probably work quite well. It's not a big problem so I hope any fix will be simple.
Posted By: Pipeline Re: Chord Chart Timeline Improvement - 07/15/20 06:28 PM
Maybe you could make it as a separate resizable window or dockable like the mixer ?
And even better have an option to show a Big Clock like RealBand
Originally Posted By: Pipeline
Posted By: MarioD Re: Chord Chart Timeline Improvement - 07/15/20 08:32 PM
Pipeline, that is an excellent idea so A BIG +1.
Posted By: Matt Finley Re: Chord Chart Timeline Improvement - 07/15/20 08:38 PM
Yes, a dock-able clock would be nice (dock-able everything would be nice), though it isn't addressing the original suggestion to differentiate choruses.
Posted By: AudioTrack Re: Chord Chart Timeline Improvement - 07/15/20 11:50 PM
Sometime back when this timeline was introduced, there was a suggestion then to make it more readable, especially for live playing. It was so far not implemented, but did get favorable support. So I still vote for these suggested visual improvements to be made. +1

2017 suggestion to improve the readability of the timeline.
Posted By: Pipeline Re: Chord Chart Timeline Improvement - 07/16/20 12:50 AM
Yes you are right it's all been asked for over n over.
I think it was all implemented after VT's 2015 Concept Video

It would be good if user's could modify and create additional modular features/skins like Reaper rather than sitting back and wishing for years n years feeling powerless.

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