|
Log in to post
|
Print Thread |
|
|
|
|
|
RealBand Wishlist
|
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 58
Enthusiast
|
OP
Enthusiast
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 58 |
Every new release brings the usual flurry of RealTrack requests from those who were disappointed and were hoping to get the exact instrument playing the exact style with just the right tone for their specific project(s). Even with the large number of real tracks already released, it should be obvious that this is impossible and the current sets only touch on a very limited number of instruments when you step back and look at the infinite sound palette of comtemporary recording.
I would hope that with the current trend of the program toward audio as a default that the addition of Acidized loop capability would be a no brainer. The elastique processing along with the drag and drop audio improvements suggest that this might be possible in the next release.
The suggestion is meant as a way to add one feature that would go a long way to satisfying the many requests for very specific RealTracks. The vast supply of third party loops and construction kits would add the same life and believability to a mix that users are looking for with RealTracks.
Of course, this is not as elegant as having a complete set of RealTrack loops and having the program intelligently do the selecting and arranging, but many users realize that most RealTracks require some editing on the way to the perfect track and only the most generic are useful on an ongoing basis. It doesn't take long before you start to hear the same distinctive riffs and rhythms over and over again.
I vote for adding standardized loop capability in the next release to bring RealBand up to speed with the latest audio capabilities.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
RealBand Wishlist
|
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 3,921
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 3,921 |
Very interesting suggestion. It is logical and would allow me to bring a huge library of existing Acid loops (4 Gb, plus a whole universe more) into the PG Music fold. Nice.
"My primary musical instrument is the personal computer."
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
RealBand Wishlist
|
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 4,026
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 4,026 |
I use loops already ,but don't loop them just add end to end. Also have made loops out of real tracks in RB .
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
RealBand Wishlist
|
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 7,798
Veteran
|
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 7,798 |
Acidized looping is a nice way to add other sounds and textures to the palatte as you so nicely put it. I used Loops for a long time in AcidPro. I did find them to be much like RTs in that they can get repetitive quickly. They do however give a lot of options, and there seems to be no end to the availbility of them. I did write a tutorial on how to make them in Cakewalk a few years back. As well as how to in Acid, which has the render to looped region feature.
Before BiaB i would make looped tracks to save on making mistakes. I can play a strummed guitar track, but as we all know there is going to be a finger flub or such somewhere.
So what i did was take a program like cakewalk MC5, and open it set the tempo, and arm a track strum or pick about three or four bars then go back and listen to it, looking for one bar that was perfect. set the loop markers to the beginning and end of the bar, and loop the bar fine tuning the lopped area until it played and sounded like a continuos thing, then save that as a groove clip. then do the same thing for each chord in the song. Then once all saved in a floder, just drag them into place where you want to build the song and them export the track as a wave file and import into any thing you want.
Lenovo Win 10 16 gig ram, Mac mini with 16 gig of ram, BiaB 2022, Realband, Harrison Mixbus 32c version 9.1324, Melodyne 5 editor, Presonus Audiobox 1818VSL, Presonus control app, Komplete 49 key controller.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
RealBand Wishlist
|
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 8,074
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 8,074 |
here's another vote for standardized acidized loop capability.
Version 11.5 got closer with an improved drag and paste feature... (really, almost the same thing as acidized loops, but a different approach. It takes a tad longer to manually paste multiple instances of the snippet across an entire track than it would to copy once, then drag-paste across the whole track, but you can achieve the same result)
Not only would this feature make loop libraries compatible with RB, it would also allow users to play their own passages into a track, then paint the track with personalized sound (the closest thing to making your own real tracks)
But again, the new drag and paste feature already allows all the functionality mentioned in this thread. There may be protected aspects to acidized looping that prevent PGMusic from using exactly the same look and feel (although, many other music software packages do it in approximately the same was as ACID does it)
If version 2012 expanded on the cut and paste feature to provide the continued pasting of a snippet in a track as long as the mouse button is held down, that would be way cool.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
RealBand Wishlist
|
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 52
Enthusiast
|
|
Enthusiast
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 52 |
Actually for those of use who are running RealBand. Under bootcamp on Apple Macs. It would be cool if we could use aiff Apple Loops too. This would allow
Us to use the same loops already on our hard disks that were come installed for GarageBand and/or. Logic.
A plus side of doing this is that by Being able to use Apple loop Aiff files in rb. It would be. Easy to then move over to finishing off the. Production in Logic .
Of course for Live users like myself it would be REALLY cool to be able to use live clips, but this I'm guessing would be very hard to implement due to the need to reverse engineer the file format.
Last edited by dstenning; 08/16/11 08:36 AM.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
RealBand Wishlist
|
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 399
Journeyman
|
|
Journeyman
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 399 |
Along with ACID loops, i'd also love to be able to use the MIDI portion of Apple Loops. Apple loops come in two forms, audio + MIDI, or just pure MIDI. Now obviously the MIDI ones come intimately linked to a particular Garageband/Logic instrument preset, but the MIDI content by itself still would be of use. For example strummed guitar MIDI loops could easily be re-used and mapped to - say a Kontakt based guitar inside RB. And THEN we could apply my recent suggestion to have RB automatically REHARMONISE this MID loop to match the current chord changes ! 
Big Sur, Mac Mini i7 2018, 64GB RAM 2TB SSD
Yamaha PSR SX 900, Cubase, Ableton, UNIFY, OPUS ORCHESTRATOR, MASCHINE, Vienna Ensemble Pro ,Audiofuse, L6 HELI, KOMPLETE, Komplete Kontrol 88
Lockdown beard, podgy face, beer belly, bald patch ... yadda yadda
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
RealBand Wishlist
|
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 399
Journeyman
|
|
Journeyman
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 399 |
And talking about loops
how about adding ome ABLETON STYLE loop triggering too!
I'd love to be able to just record myself triggering loops off while playing a song, and have RB record which loop i triggered and when.
This stuff is kind of doeable if one has one of these AKAI style beat creation plugins, such as MACHINE etc, but i'd rather
have it in the main RB itself.
Big Sur, Mac Mini i7 2018, 64GB RAM 2TB SSD
Yamaha PSR SX 900, Cubase, Ableton, UNIFY, OPUS ORCHESTRATOR, MASCHINE, Vienna Ensemble Pro ,Audiofuse, L6 HELI, KOMPLETE, Komplete Kontrol 88
Lockdown beard, podgy face, beer belly, bald patch ... yadda yadda
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
RealBand Wishlist
|
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 8,074
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 8,074 |
Quote:
Along with ACID loops, i'd also love to be able to use the MIDI portion of Apple Loops.
not just Apple midi loops... in Sonar, you can highlight any MIDI passage then declare it to be a loopable block... after which you can drag/paint with it
again, the cool thing about using either audio OR MIDI loops is the abilitry to easily record your own passages then apply them to a whole song almost as you would use a style
This combines the convenience of rapid musical construction with personal creativity so we don't have to rely on somebody else's pre-recorded riffs.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
RealBand Wishlist
|
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 8,333
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 8,333 |
Well you'all got loops in version 2012...
John Conley
Musica est vita
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.
ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Update Your PowerTracks Pro Audio 2024 Today!
The Newest RealBand 2024 Update is Here!
The newest RealBand 2024 Build 5 update is now available!
Download and install this to your RealBand 2024 for updated print options, streamlined loading and saving of .SGU & MGU (BB) files, and to add a number of program adjustments that address user-reported bugs and concerns.
This free update is available to all RealBand 2024 users. To learn more about this update and download it, head to www.pgmusic.com/support.realband.htm#20245
The Band-in-a-Box® Flash Drive Backup Option
Today (April 5) is National Flash Drive Day!
Did you know... not only can you download your Band-in-a-Box® Pro, MegaPAK, or PlusPAK purchase - you can also choose to add a flash drive backup copy with the installation files for only $15? It even comes with a Band-in-a-Box® keychain!
For the larger Band-in-a-Box® packages (UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition), the hard drive backup copy is available for only $25. This will include a preinstalled and ready to use program, along with your installation files.
Backup copies are offered during the checkout process on our website.
Already purchased your e-delivery version, and now you wish you had a backup copy? It's not too late! If your purchase was for the current version of Band-in-a-Box®, you can still reach out to our team directly to place your backup copy order!
Note: the Band-in-a-Box® keychain is only included with flash drive backup copies, and cannot be purchased separately.
Handy flash drive tip: Always try plugging in a USB device the wrong way first? If your flash drive (or other USB plug) doesn't have a symbol to indicate which way is up, look for the side with a seam on the metal connector (it only has a line across one side) - that's the side that either faces down or to the left, depending on your port placement.
Update your Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows® Today!
Update your Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows for free with build 1111!
With this update, there's more control when saving images from the Print Preview window, we've added defaults to the MultiPicker for sorting and font size, updated printing options, updated RealTracks and other content, and addressed user-reported issues with the StylePicker, MIDI Soloists, key signature changes, and more!
Learn more about this free update for Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows at www.pgmusic.com/support_windowsupdates.htm#1111
Band-in-a-Box® 2024 Review: 4.75 out of 5 Stars!
If you're looking for a in-depth review of the newest Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows version, you'll definitely find it with Sound-Guy's latest review, Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows Review: Incredible new capabilities to experiment, compose, arrange and mix songs.
A few excerpts:
"The Tracks view is possibly the single most powerful addition in 2024 and opens up a new way to edit and generate accompaniments. Combined with the new MultiPicker Library Window, it makes BIAB nearly perfect as an 'intelligent' composer/arranger program."
"MIDI SuperTracks partial generation showing six variations – each time the section is generated it can be instantly auditioned, re-generated or backed out to a previous generation – and you can do this with any track type. This is MAJOR! This takes musical experimentation and honing an arrangement to a new level, and faster than ever."
"Band in a Box continues to be an expansive musical tool-set for both novice and experienced musicians to experiment, compose, arrange and mix songs, as well as an extensive educational resource. It is huge, with hundreds of functions, more than any one person is likely to ever use. Yet, so is any DAW that I have used. BIAB can do some things that no DAW does, and this year BIAB has more DAW-like functions than ever."
Convenient Ways to Listen to Band-in-a-Box® Songs Created by Program Users!
The User Showcase Forum is an excellent place to share your Band-in-a-Box® songs and listen to songs other program users are creating!
There are other places you can listen to these songs too! Visit our User Showcase page to sort by genre, artist (forum name), song title, and date - each listing will direct you to the forum post for that song.
If you'd rather listen to these songs in one place, head to our Band-in-a-Box® Radio, where you'll have the option to select the genre playlist for your listening pleasure. This page has SoundCloud built in, so it won't redirect you. We've also added the link to the Artists SoundCloud page here, and a link to their forum post.
We hope you find some inspiration from this amazing collection of User Showcase Songs!
Congratulations to the 2023 User Showcase Award Winners!
We've just announced the 2023 User Showcase Award Winners!
There are 45 winners, each receiving a Band-in-a-Box 2024 UltraPAK! Read the official announcement to see if you've won.
Our User Showcase Forum receives more than 50 posts per day, with people sharing their Band-in-a-Box songs and providing feedback for other songs posted.
Thank you to everyone who has contributed!
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Forums66
Topics81,578
Posts734,642
Members38,499
| |
Most Online2,537
Jan 19th, 2020
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Dansk
Deutsch - Windows
Español
Français - Windows
Italiano - Windows
Nederlands
Polski
Português
Svenskt
русский
Japanese
Simplified Chinese
Traditional Chinese
Korean