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Excuse my ignorance, but what's the difference between the two? Oh, I have both and plan to get the 2012 upgrade (from 2010) but I have yet to use RealBand.
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rokq,
Have a look at the Realband videos (under the Support link at the top of the web page). That will help you see the difference. Realband is essentially a DAW with the added ability that it can create arrangements just like BIAB.
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Noel
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If you never plan on recording 'live' instruments, then you probably do not need Real Band. RB has many features, but the main one is for recording yourself / others playing real instruments or singing etc..
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You could duplicate Real Band with two separate apps, a DAW/MIDI sequencer and BiaB. Some like myself prefer to have the apps separate (I use BiaB, Power Tracks Pro Audio, Master Tracks Pro and Encore), and some prefer to have them combined.
Real Band combines many of the features of both Band-in-a-Box and Power Tracks Pro Audio.
There is no right or wrong way to do it, it's entirely up to the musician's personal preference.
Notes
Bob "Notes" Norton  Norton Music
https://www.nortonmusic.com
100% MIDI Super-Styles recorded by live, pro, studio musicians for a live groove
& Fake Disks for MIDI and/or RealTracks
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For my purposes, RealBand allows me to make song arrangements that are not limited to the 5 main instruments of BIAB. So I can have 3 guitars, pedal steel, piano, strings, drums, bass, fiddle, etc. up to the limit of RB (I think 48 tracks). I can then cut and paste sections, delete sections or move sections of each instrument pretty much at will. Very useful in my opinion for really getting the most out of the many Realtracks and midi sounds that come with it.
I use BIAB for building the basic structure of the song and often BIAB is adequate for a given arrangement so I don't use RB on all songs, but it sure is nice to have once you learn how to use it.
Good luck.
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))) You could duplicate Real Band with two separate apps, a DAW/MIDI sequencer and BiaB. This is not correct. There are useful features found in RealBand that are not found in BiaB or a DAW. An example is the MultiRiff feature (introduced in 2012). Highlight a section of a track, choose multiriff, and you get to see a menu dialog of possible riffs that would work over that section using the chosen RealTracks. All the riffs are different, no duplicates. Audition them within the menu dialog, until you find the one that works best, and then insert them into your composition. For example, you can listen to a bunch of different pedal steel riffs, until you find the one that works best with your song. Or add 3 strumming guitar parts, all different, so that it makes a fat sound. You can see the MultiRiff feature in action in the RealBand 2012 video... http://www.pgmusic.com/bbwin.demos.htm
Have Fun!
Peter Gannon
PG Music Inc.
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[quote}Highlight a section of a track, choose multiriff, and you get to see a menu dialog of possible riffs that would work over that section using the chosen RealTracks. All the riffs are different, no duplicates. Audition them within the menu dialog, until you find the one that works best, and then insert them into your composition.
Now THIS makes me want to run home right now and load it up. How many times have I generated as many as 8 solos and then cut and pasted chunks together.
I am using the new 1040XTRAEZ form this year. It has just 2 lines.
1. How much did you make in 2023?
2. Send it to us.
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Another example is that RealBand, alone among DAWs, transfers chord info directly from BIAB files, overcoming this severe limitation of the MIDI standard.
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))) An example is the MultiRiff feature (introduced in 2012). Highlight a section of a track, choose multiriff, and you get to see a menu dialog of possible riffs that would work over that section using the chosen RealTracks. All the riffs are different, no duplicates. Audition them within the menu dialog, until you find the one that works best, and then insert them into your composition.
Yes! fantastic and useful feature, even for guitarist and educators, it come as a great resource to get stimulant ideas for songs, backing tracks and compositions. Also it is time saving as it make easier to get a suitable riffs on your taste. I was amazed with MultiRiff in RealBand!
I think RealBand is really a unique tool by combining cool DAW features and BiaB power in one pack.
Carlos
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NOTE about the Multi-riff selector... this is a GREAT new feature! ...
...but if your song has any tempo changes in it, the hightlighted section will regenerate but a portion of the wave form after the regen'd section will be erased. Sure hope this gets fixed ASAP.
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Right Mitch, That does happen with certain tempo changes in a song, and will be fixed in the next free patch build. In the meantime, if you choose a blank track to work with (or have a song that doesn't have those tempo changes prior to the point of insertion), the issue won't happen.
Have Fun!
Peter Gannon
PG Music Inc.
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Great Peter. Yes, that is the work around for now... I use a blank track for any/all regen stuff on tunes with tempo changes. A lot of my tunes only have ritard endings, so the tempo change is after the point of insertion, but still the wave form gets erased.
It IS a great time saver and wonderful new feature !
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"if you choose a blank track to work with "
Thanks, good to know.
Make your sound your own!
.. I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome
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Thanks all. I actually plan to get into BIAB and RealTracks (plus actually read the manual!) more in 2012!!
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Update Your PowerTracks Pro Audio 2024 Today!
The Newest RealBand 2024 Update is Here!
The newest RealBand 2024 Build 5 update is now available!
Download and install this to your RealBand 2024 for updated print options, streamlined loading and saving of .SGU & MGU (BB) files, and to add a number of program adjustments that address user-reported bugs and concerns.
This free update is available to all RealBand 2024 users. To learn more about this update and download it, head to www.pgmusic.com/support.realband.htm#20245
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Backup copies are offered during the checkout process on our website.
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Handy flash drive tip: Always try plugging in a USB device the wrong way first? If your flash drive (or other USB plug) doesn't have a symbol to indicate which way is up, look for the side with a seam on the metal connector (it only has a line across one side) - that's the side that either faces down or to the left, depending on your port placement.
Update your Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows® Today!
Update your Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows for free with build 1111!
With this update, there's more control when saving images from the Print Preview window, we've added defaults to the MultiPicker for sorting and font size, updated printing options, updated RealTracks and other content, and addressed user-reported issues with the StylePicker, MIDI Soloists, key signature changes, and more!
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If you're looking for a in-depth review of the newest Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows version, you'll definitely find it with Sound-Guy's latest review, Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows Review: Incredible new capabilities to experiment, compose, arrange and mix songs.
A few excerpts:
"The Tracks view is possibly the single most powerful addition in 2024 and opens up a new way to edit and generate accompaniments. Combined with the new MultiPicker Library Window, it makes BIAB nearly perfect as an 'intelligent' composer/arranger program."
"MIDI SuperTracks partial generation showing six variations – each time the section is generated it can be instantly auditioned, re-generated or backed out to a previous generation – and you can do this with any track type. This is MAJOR! This takes musical experimentation and honing an arrangement to a new level, and faster than ever."
"Band in a Box continues to be an expansive musical tool-set for both novice and experienced musicians to experiment, compose, arrange and mix songs, as well as an extensive educational resource. It is huge, with hundreds of functions, more than any one person is likely to ever use. Yet, so is any DAW that I have used. BIAB can do some things that no DAW does, and this year BIAB has more DAW-like functions than ever."
Convenient Ways to Listen to Band-in-a-Box® Songs Created by Program Users!
The User Showcase Forum is an excellent place to share your Band-in-a-Box® songs and listen to songs other program users are creating!
There are other places you can listen to these songs too! Visit our User Showcase page to sort by genre, artist (forum name), song title, and date - each listing will direct you to the forum post for that song.
If you'd rather listen to these songs in one place, head to our Band-in-a-Box® Radio, where you'll have the option to select the genre playlist for your listening pleasure. This page has SoundCloud built in, so it won't redirect you. We've also added the link to the Artists SoundCloud page here, and a link to their forum post.
We hope you find some inspiration from this amazing collection of User Showcase Songs!
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Our User Showcase Forum receives more than 50 posts per day, with people sharing their Band-in-a-Box songs and providing feedback for other songs posted.
Thank you to everyone who has contributed!
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