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what a concept makes me wonder how it might be applied to other areas

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edited - if you want to use this, make sure to check the options in the lower right of the screen - there you can rotate the fretboard so it looks like it does as you look down at the fretboard and play the guitar, or as you visualize tablature.

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When I first started to try and learn the bass (and then later guitar) this was (I thought at the time) one of the great challenges facing me.

Let’s see, I thought, four strings … 20 frets … holy smoke! … that’s 80 different notes I’m going to have to remember.

I am not the smartest guy on the block, my study habits are pretty bad and I don’t have the best memory in the world. There was no way I was going to remember every single note on the fretboard.

I had to come up with a “method” to try and learn the fretboard.

And I did.

One of these days I plan on recording a video describing my method and post it on YouTube.
But, as I mentioned, I’m a pretty lazy guy and just haven’t gotten around to it.

Basically it boils down to knowing the relationship (intervals) between notes and knowing where the “landmarks” or “sign-posts” are on the fret board.


Simple example: the note at the ninth fret of the D (fourth) string. Just staring at that note in the middle of nowhere, I might not know what it is.

But it is a “L-shape away” from the E-note (at the seventh fret on the A string). There are a lot of blues and country songs in E, so I play that note a lot. The fifth of E is B, so that note right there must be a B.

This happens almost instantaneously so don’t judge the method by how long it takes to describe it.

And this is just one example. There are others on how it works.

And it works for me …the original musical “dummy.”

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firstbassman,

That's exactly how I learned bass fretboard, well not exactly. It's a fairly common instructional technique, as far as I know.

I learned from a book 'Teach Yourself Bass' or something to that effect.

The book teaches you to start at D on the A string. Up a string - that's the 4th note of the scale, down a string, that's the 5th. Or over and up two frets, etc.

I'm ashamed to say that I played guitar for 20+ years and never learned the fretboard very well until I started playing bass 3 years ago. Still only have the bottom 4 strings and the top e string reasonably well. The B string is the orphan!

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That's exactly how I learned bass fretboard, well not exactly. It's a fairly common instructional technique, as far as I know.






Yes, Scott you’re absolutely right .. my method is not original in any real sense of the word. But I came upon it pretty much on my own (with great assistance from my first instructor) and I also try, when I teach, to present it in a very logical step-by-step way.



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I'm ashamed to say that I played guitar for 20+ years and never learned the fretboard very well until I started playing bass 3 years ago.






I have a theory about that too.

As I’ve mentioned before, I have attended several workshops at the Fur Peace Ranch and at some other places.

At first, I was pretty shocked that a good number of decent guitar players (young and old) had no knowledge of the fretboard at all and zippo knowledge of chord theory.

And yet, here was I, a humble bass player of only a few years and I knew both fairly well.

Then it hit me . . .

Most (not all) but many guitars players, how do they learn to play guitar? Well, usually they learn simple open chords and then more complex and barre chords. But they’re basically just taught the “shape” of the chord (where to put their fingers).

When it comes time to learning how to do solos, they’re taught patterns, a series of dots on the fretboard that make up a shape.

And they also learn by following TAB.

But they never really learn what the dots or the shape mean. “Why are they there?” so to speak.

(I'm not saying this fits you exactly. I'm just saying - in many cases.)

But a bass player, at the most basic level, has to know where at least the root notes are of every chord in the song. So, when the song goes to the F# chord, you better know where the heck at least one F# is on the fretboard.

That, I think, is the major reason for the difference.

And many guitar players tell me they have become better players after they took up learning the bass.

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