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I have long had the suspicion that when I play and record guitar along with an RD track the timing was somewhat off. So I ingeniously :-) generated an RD track took my microphone held it up close to the speaker and recorded a new track for comparison, I can easily now hear double beats when playing back these two tracks. Now my question is, can I somehow in the big audio window see how many milliseconds those two tracks differ and can I do anything to lessen the delay?? I use an M-audio 410, and my PC has lots of muscle!
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I get that latency too when recording overdubs to a RB generated track. There must be a way to correct it but I don't know what it is. I do know that I can't sing lead and harmony at the same time.
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When you find out the milliseconds you could delete that much from your tracks!
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If there's no way to lessen the delay to an acceptable amount then maybe each track could be corrected for delay by sliding the track but the problem is that you need to know the millisecs!
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Set resolution (Options-resolution) to highest setting
Open original track in audio edit window and put cursor right on a drum bets.
Close that window and open the second track in audio edit window to see how much they are off.
Now carefully highlite the section that is 'off'.
The From-Thru window will tell you how much it is off so you can either cut that amount from the beginning (and close gap) or slide it in the same audio edit window.
I would normally leave the cursor and just slide the new track to where the same beat lines up right on the money.
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Yes, but the second track you want to align to the RD may be a vocal track and then you don't know what to align to!
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rharv is spot on. If the track is vocals, try to remember if there are any lyrics which start on the first beat of a bar - this will give you an idea of the gap. Failing that, it's trial and error, using the undo function until the track sounds right.
As a bonus, if it's a lead guitar track, it can sometimes give the track a better sense of urgency if it's slightly early. We've used this as a production trick for some years.
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Hi Rharv! Your suggestion works :-) I needed to slide the track from -2:01:0000 to -2:01:0400 (how many milliseconds is that?) would be nice if it could be automated though, as every single track needs sliding with respect to the reference track!How do you do it?
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Maybe try adding several tracks to the mix, using the same track as your reference track each time.
Odds are the new tracks may be all off by the same amount,assuming you starting point is OK.
If so then select all the new tracks at once and move the required amount?
Trying this with several new songs may turn up a standard time shift (latency)number.
Just an idea.
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Are you using ASIO or MME drivers?
Try the other one ..to test.
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I use an M-audio 410
Sorry to hear that. This thing really has a bad reputation. A good hardware interface should not have the latency you are hearing. May be time to shop around.
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I thought there was latency compensation in RB? No?
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MY Experiment.
Generated a kick drum using a midi style I made and then converted it to audio.
I took a cable and plugged it from the headphone out to the line in and hit record. The two tracks are dead nuts on.So to me any latency your getting is the time it gets the speaker sound to travel to the mic. Or the delay in your own inner processing.
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BTW that's both listening and looking in the audio edit window.Using WDM drivers.
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Yes there is, but lets narrow down the source first.
If MME solves the problem, it may be a setting in ASIO. Since MME has a much larger bufer it is usually dead on. Then it's a question of whether ASIO is needed or not to determine if it is worth the effort of tinkering with the settings. A sinple switch to MME (or as Silvertones called it WDM) may be an acceptable fix for the OP.
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Should we not be looking to resolve the source of the latency rather than band-aids and bubble gum to fix it after the fact? WHY do tracks not line up? I had to fight with moving a vocal track back in time because when I recorded it, though I sang it in time, it was off when I played it back. Let's fix that problem instead of work around it. I mean, instead of limping around with padded shoes, get the ingrown toenail removed....
Where did this come from? I never heard anything like this until 2012 and this is the same hardware I always used for the recording side of things. M-Audio Fast Trak Pro USB interface, plugging a mic directly into it.
Those of you seeing latency when recording overdubs, did you have issues before 2012?
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Here we go again!
I never have latency issues.No workaround needed. Period.
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