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Not sure how to explain this; I'll probably use the wrong terms. I'm looking for a extended roll or run on a crash cymbal; the type you would have at the end of blues/rock track where the instruments vamp around it just prior to the final downbeat (or it could fade away). Kind of an ad-lib wind down. Doesn't necessarily have to be on a crash cymbal, but that's just what I'm hearing. Is there a sample like that in any of the real drums tracks?

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Not to my knowledge. I think I've heard 'em all by now.


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Start googling for acidized loops and see what you can find, it might take a good search!


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I have a couple rolls here from a drum recording I did, but they are more of a crescendo than a rock bash ending..


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You could try creating a cymbal roll yourself in the piano roll editor and then trigger whatever cymbals you have in a midi drum kit. If you have a good drum module like BFD or Jamstix, the cymbals should sound as good as the RD's and blend right in. If you don't have a good sounding kit in any of your synths, there's several free ones available. One drum module is called the BD5 I think and there's people who have created free drum samples that can be loaded into it.

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In my experience, attempts to create a MIDI roll using existing samples don't sound correct because the sample will be locked as to its ADSR components. A roll only has that critical first Attack at the beginning, successive strikes are modulated by the already ringing cymbal. In short, it will "machine gun" on you.

I think the best suggestion so far (and far easier to implement) was the one earlier, to go out on the web and see if you can find a wav sample of a cymbal roll, download that and then place it on the timeline where you want it.


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Get that sample loop and make your own RD part.


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