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Does any of you have experience with Ozone for mix and mastering in RB?
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Make your sound your own!
.. I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome
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How do you feel about it and can it be used as other FX plug ins?
(I have an odd problem when writing posts, some time my cursor locks up???)
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How come the short answers :-)
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How come the short answers :-)
speaking for myself, I was just bein' a wiseguy.
I figure RHARV was too, so I one-upped him 
but, on a more serious note:
the way you phrase a question can determine the quality of answer you get.
If you want a simple one word answer (limiting the other person's ability to beat around the bush) then ask a closed-ended question (your question was closed-ended... in other words, the actual question you asked was whether anybody had used the product, which can only be answered "yes" or "no" effectively closing the opportunity to say more )
But if you want an explanation, then phrase it as an open-ended question. (one that CAN'T be answered with a simple yes or no)
So, the answer to the question "Why the short answers?" is "because that's the way you phrased the question."
words that make a question closed-ended:
HAS THIS BEEN DONE..?, (yes)
HAVE YOU EVER...? (yes),
WHO...? (Bill)
IS THERE...?(uh-huh)
WHEN...? (yesterday)
words that make a question open-ended:
HOW...?,
WHY...?
PLEASE EXPLAIN...
WHAT IS THE REASON FOR...?
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All that and still no answer! Then like a lightning bolt I realized the answer was plain to see.
Just check Pats info at the bottom. "Ozone 5"
So here goes, Pat, how does ozone 5 work with both BiaB, and RB?
Lenovo Win 10 16 gig ram, Mac mini with 16 gig of ram, BiaB 2022, Realband, Harrison Mixbus 32c version 9.1324, Melodyne 5 editor, Presonus Audiobox 1818VSL, Presonus control app, Komplete 49 key controller.
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All that and still no answer! Then like a lightning bolt I realized the answer was plain to see.
Just check Pats info at the bottom. "Ozone 5"
So here goes, Pat, how does ozone 5 work with both BiaB, and RB?
oddly enough, mixing and mastering are things I still do in Sonar (with the assumption that with a 64 bit program I can access more of my ram for plugins etc)
but that may be unnecessary because I don't even use Ozone until the project is mixed down to a WAV, at which point the other plugins are out of the picture. The only reason I do it in Sonar is because I'm already there after mixing down to the WAV.
Ozone appears to have a fairly small footprint. I will experiment with it today in RB and report back.
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Well guys I thought I knew a little bit of the English language and obviously that was all I knew ;-) I got a semantics lecture and thanks for that :-)
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Hi Pat!
All of my tracks are waves (from rehearsings) and I hoped that mixing and mastering could be somewhat automated by ozone, I have eventually had some success tampering with the vocal by doubling it, pitch altered and experimented with reverb and delay, I hoped that some of these little tricks were packaged
in ozone, but maybe I'm all wrong in this assumption :-)
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Hi Pat!
All of my tracks are waves (from rehearsings) and I hoped that mixing and mastering could be somewhat automated by ozone, I have eventually had some success tampering with the vocal by doubling it, pitch altered and experimented with reverb and delay, I hoped that some of these little tricks were packaged
in ozone, but maybe I'm all wrong in this assumption :-)
Mixing and mastering are different
mixing is normally considered to be the tweaking of individual tracks to separate the frequencies, apply track effects, panning, set track volume etc etc...
mastering is done to the final mixdown wav, at which time there aren't any individual tracks anymore. In fact mastering is technically done to a whole set of songs so they flow well on the same CD
By metaphor, mixing is kinda like getting the kids cleaned up for the family photo, and mastering is like touching up the snapshot of how they looked at that moment, making it neatly framed and glossy
The things you mentioned (vocal doubling, reverb, pitch adjusting, delay etc) are typically done to tracks, so that's part of the mixing process.
The company that makes OZONE for mastering also makes a mixing product called ALLOY2... here's a link to a previous thread and some more info:
http://www.pgmusic.com/forums/showflat.p...true#Post396457
like Ozone, it comes with a lot of presets which can somewhat automate aspects of the mixing process. But it's kind of pricey considering the fact that it duplicates functionality you already have in the plugins that came with BIAB
The link leads to a product description. Check it out and see if that sheds any light on what you're trying to accomplish.
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I really didn't know how else to answer; you asked if others use it .. I said yes. It is a great tool for mastering, and can be used in mixing, but there was a lot to assume about the question before answering with anything more than 'yes'. Quote:
Does any of you have experience with Ozone for mix and mastering in RB?
In the most open interpretation the question could mean 'does it work in RB?' (answer = yes)
In the most direct interpretation the question could mean 'Do you use it?' (answer = yes)
Other than that I'd be guessing on how you wanted to use it, or if you had a problem with it .. so I figured 'yes' would keep the conversation going. I wasn't trying to be a jerk, just didn't have any more to go on.
Now that I know a little more;
It doesn't do pitch shift.
It does lots of other stuff very well. There is usually a free trial available so you can try it and see if you like it.
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I know you're not being a jerk, you've always been helping, and you've indeed been helping me many times. The reason for my imperfect question was that sometimes my cursor locks up and I'm not able to write any further, this solely happens when writing in PGforums. But being eager to learn about Ozone I simply sent the Q anyway, so if you have any clue regarding this strange editor problem I'd be glad to hear about it :-)
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I don't know of the issue, which browser?
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