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#204917 - 05/31/13 01:19 PM [Foro para el usuario de Band-in-a-Box en Español] Progresiones diferentes por pista
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Hola a todos,

Siguiendo con el tema de las armonías, me pregunto si es posible crear progresiones de acordes diferentes para las pistas de una canción, por ejemplo, el piano podría ir haciendo armonías básicas como C, Bm7, Am7, G7sus mientras la guitarra toca tensiones en formas de tríadas básicas sobre esos acordes y a su vez el bajo notas alternativas como base interesante dentro del contexto. ¿De que manera podría lograrse eso con Band in a Box sin necesidad de editarlo en un programa externo?

¡Mil gracias a la comunidad!

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#205005 - 06/01/13 02:45 AM [Foro para el usuario de Band-in-a-Box en Español] Re: Progresiones diferentes por pista [Re: Vanguard]
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Hola Vanguard,

Efectivamente, este tema de la armonía es muy interesante, y Band-in-a-Box, utilizado con cierta dosis de astucia e ingenio, puede redundar en resultados igualmente interesantes y útiles para ciertos propósitos.
Por ejemplo en tu caso, existe una característica del programa, que se utiliza para preservar la última regeneración de acordes que se haya realizado aún cuando reproduzcamos nuevamente desde cero la canción, lo cual obligaría a re-generar los acordes de la canción. Esta función es llamada "CONGELAR" y la encontraremos por su ícono respectivo o en el menú TOCAR con sus tres variables posibles.

Lo voy a explicar ahora por medio de un ejemplo y de la manera mas sencilla posible.

Tomemos una progresión de acordes similar a la que tu mismo propones de ejemplo, CMaj-Bm7-Am7-G , copiemos la misma en la hoja de acordes del programa y también tomemos nota aparte de dichos acordes en un note pad o incluso haciéndo una captura de pantalla de dicha progresión original. Ahora escojemos un estilo, que contenga por ejemplo un piano y una guitarra (preferiblmente limpia y arpegiada), además de la batería y el bajo. Reproduzcamos (play) para generar la canción con dichos acordes, obtendremos entonces una canción donde todos los instrumentos armónicos y melódicos estarán rigiéndose por LA MISMA progresión de acordes.
Ahora viene la magia, por medio de la función CONGELAR, seleccionemos y "congelemos" todas las pistas MENOS la guitarra, y escriberemos a continuación en la hoja de acordes una progresión conformada por armonías o acordes que produzcan cierto grado de tensiones o triadas que contengan notas que coloreen por encima la armonía de la progresión original, en este caso mantenida por el piano y la guitarra.

El ejemplo nos quedaría mas o menos asi :

PIANO y BAJO ------------------ CMaj \Bm7\Am7 \G
-----------------------------------------------------------
GUITARRA Armonia superpuesta Am9, Em7 \F#m\Fmaj7\A F,Am9

En la imagen que incluyo aqui - Armonia_superpuesta podrá observarse con mas claridad ambas progresiones, la original y abajo la armonía superpuesta.




Es de acotar que por supuesto aqui cabe de manera casi inevitable la experimentación, ya que los diferentes estilos y sus correspondientes instrumentos nos ofrecerán una paleta de variaciones intrínsecas a cada uno; una guitarra de reggae por ejemplo interactuará armónicamente con otro instrumento de diferente manera que una de balada Pop. Por otro lado también podemos aplicar la "descongelación" a otros instrumentos, por ejemplo el bajo para forzarlo a tocar "otras cosas" por encima de la progresión original. Como he mencionado, la experimentación y cuidadosa audición de cada instrumento y su interacción con otros es vital.

Buena suerte y cuéntanos por favor de tus experiencias en este campo.

Saludos

Carlos
PG Music

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#205062 - 06/01/13 03:09 PM [Foro para el usuario de Band-in-a-Box en Español] Re: Progresiones diferentes por pista [Re: Vanguard]
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¡Muy didáctico Carlos!...gracias por la extensa respuesta

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User Tip - Create harmony Using the TC Helicon in RealBand 2020

Interested in creating harmonies using RealBand and the TC Helicon? Check out this forum post, where program user Noel96 shares information on his technique!

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Band-in-a-Box® 2020 for Windows & VST DAW Plugin Update Available!

Band-in-a-Box® 2020 for Windows users!!! The latest FREE patch (build 713) and DAW Plugin Update 2.4.5 is available - learn more and download here.

Summary of changes for build 713:
Fixed: Rendered audio files might be silent if mono and 24 bit are selected.
Fixed: Possible crash when rendering to audio at 48.0kHz or 96.0kHz sample rate.
Improved: Better support for localized versions.
Fixed: Importing audio files that were 96 kHz sampling rate would fail.
Fixed: The [More Info...] button in the Artist Browser dialog would launch the wrong web page.
Fixed: Importing an ABCNotation file would not include the key signature.
Fixed: ABC files only opening some chords.
Fixed: Problem storing minor keys.(ampersand).
Fixed: A few artists not displaying properly in Artist Browsers.
Improved: RealDrums Picker information for the 2020 RealDrums has been updated/improved.
Fixed: Some of the RealDrums from the 2020 release did not have drum groove names.
Improved: All of the 2020 MIDI SuperTracks now have memos.
Fixed: Some RealTracks were listed under the incorrect Set# in the RealTracks Picker.
Fixed: _Gentle style from Xtra PAK 4 had an acoustic guitar set to Held mode.
Fixed: Some ska style demos had drum drop outs.
Fixed: Rendered files were not being normalized.
Fixed: Pressing spacebar in the Notation window might launch a web browser instead of starting playback.
Fixed: Practice window | Master Solos | Blues Piano, displays N/A.
Fixed: MusicXML files created by Band-in-a-Box cannot be loaded by Band-in-a-Box if song title contains & (ampersand).
Fixed: Japanese lyrics are garbage text when saving to MusicXML.
Fixed: Various animations (eg. Guitar window notes) would freeze during playback if using MME drivers.
Fixed: With some computers, distorted audio when soloing a track.
Fixed: Changing a custom track label had no option to Undo, and did not prompt user to save song.
Updated: Manual/Help [routine updates]
Fixed: When re-saving a song that has an audio track, the audio track was not copied.
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Fixed: The RealTracks picker window should remember its location when reopening.
Fixed: The Piano Roll window was opening at the wrong bar location.
Improved: Better quality audio resampling when rendering audio to higher sample rates.
Fixed: Resampler quality setting in ASIO drivers dialog was ignored.
Fixed: Using WAS audio drivers with 24 bit & 48kHz output rate might result in noise.

Summary of Changes for DAW Plugin Update 2.4.5 (Jan 21 2020)
Fixed: Opening Band-in-a-Box song files (.sgu) would fail if the file names and/or paths contained any European language characters (eg. à,è).
Fixed: Message if bbw4 has no valid handle
Fixed: Mute and sync buttons not working properly
Fixed: Clicking cancel would lag before cancelling
Fixed: Right-click anywhere on track for context menu
Fixed: Increase maximum chord sheet font size
Added: Double click track name to launch picker of currently selected track
Added: Flashing GENERATE button to notify if song needs to be regenerated
Added: Mute and sync buttons to track context menu
Added: Right-click chord opens bar settings menu at that bar
Added: Error code for bbw4 related error messages
Fixed: Plugin asking to save when booting the plugin and selecting File/Open
Fixed: Crash when running vst3 plugin in reaper
Fixed: Scroll bar margins when resizing plugin
Fixed: Bar settings not saving
Fixed: Time Base, and Natural Arrangement not saving settings
Fixed: Calling bbw4 when already open will bring windows to front
Fixed: Tool tips in Preferences Dialog
Fixed: Time signature should be set from DAW when first opened
Fixed: Set "..." colours for truncated chords to black
Fixed: Selected track in table should be more obvious
Fixed: Click YES to Save dialog and then cancel will reset save state to true
Added: Right click for track table context menu
Added: Medley/Multi (thickening) feature

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Note: The difference between the UltraPAK and the UltraPAK+ is that the Songs & Lessons PAK is included in the UltraPAK+ package.

Our Band-in-a-Box® Audiophile Edition ships preinstalled on a USB 3.0 hard drive too!
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We've added 164 fantastic new RealStyles in Xtra Styles PAK 8! These are imaginative new combinations of our existing RealTracks library that fall into four categories: Rock/Pop 8, Jazz 8, Country 8, and Celtic 1. To celebrate the release of Xtra Styles PAK 8, ALL of our Xtra Styles PAKs 1-8 are on sale for just $29 each! Learn more & listen to demos here.

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Built-in Audio Chord Wizard Enhancements in Band-in-a-Box® 2020!

Our Band-in-a-Box® 2020 for Windows version includes some great enhancements to the Built-in Audio Chord Wizard!

-The built-in Audio Chord Wizard is now accessible from the [Audio Chord Wizard] button.
-The Audio Edit window now displays chords and tempos for each bar. They are shown when the Audio Chord Wizard mode is active so that you can see the tempo for each bar as you set the bar lines.
-When you start entering bar lines, the program automatically sets the tempo to the tempo of the first bar.
-Once the tempo of the first bar is set, the program automatically moves the location of the first bar of audio over so that the visual space of the count-in bars is visible.
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-Multi-window display. This gives the Audio Chord Wizard a multi-window view so that you can see and edit both the Audio Edit window and the Chords Sheet at the same time. This display is best viewed with a small toolbar mode. This allows you to see the chords as they are being interpreted by the wizard.
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Read more about these enhancements here, or jump to the New Feature - Audio Chord Wizard (ACW) Enhancements section of our New Features video here.

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