Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread
Print Thread
Go To
Page 3 of 3 1 2 3
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 26
Enthusiast
Offline
Enthusiast
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 26
Hi All,
I have created a movie of exactly what is happening.

You can watch it here. (full screen mode looks best)

www.danthesaxman.com/biab-jabb-error.wmv

I also uploaded the BIAB file here (although this phenomenon happens on any biab I have with a melody in it). I also uploaded my JABB Krontakt multi that I used in this video.

http://danking.weebly.com

Can anyone else replicate this problem?

Dan

Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 104
M
Apprentice
Offline
Apprentice
M
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 104
Sorry Dan, I should have thought of this first thing. The JABB brass & reeds require cc#1 values for volume

Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 26
Enthusiast
Offline
Enthusiast
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 26
Mike,
Where do I set JABB to that setting?

Can you explain what cc#1 is?
Thanks

Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 26
Enthusiast
Offline
Enthusiast
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 26
Mike,
When I opened it up and real band I noticed the "Mod Wheel" Setting was at 90. I looked in the JABB manual and it said mod wheel was cc#1 (from your post above). When I open up the same saved JABB file in BIAB it was defaulted to 0. I then turned it to 90, and voila, I hear it now. I wonder if the bug in BIAB is that it starts as 0 for mod wheel when Real band defaults mod wheel at 90 for the same exact profile loaded?

Anyway now I will start messing with the harmonies, and assigned different instruments to the harmonies.

In your experience what is the best way to change the expressions (creshendo's etc) Do you do it after you recorded the melody in the melody editor in biab, or do you try to create that while recording the melody? If the latter, what means do you use to create the creshendo's?

DAn

Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 26
Enthusiast
Offline
Enthusiast
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 26
The problem I have now is when I load in any wind or brass instrument it shows the mod wheel at 90. But as soon as I hit play on BIAB, the modwheel goes to 0, and I have to manually turn it up evey time. Any ideas how to keep it at 90 like real band does?

Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 38,502
M
Mac Offline
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
M
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 38,502
Quote:

The problem I have now is when I load in any wind or brass instrument it shows the mod wheel at 90. But as soon as I hit play on BIAB, the modwheel goes to 0, and I have to manually turn it up evey time. Any ideas how to keep it at 90 like real band does?




You can insert Controller Data in each BIAB song using the PianoRoll view.

Rewind the scroll to the very beginning of the song, open the PianoRoll view, make sure the right track is selected over at LH top (M) and then use the dropdown at top R to select Control. Another dropdown should appear to the right of that, Controller 1 is the Mod Wheel.

Then draw in the Controller value desired in the lower window of the PianoRoll View.

It should look like a flat straight line, likely at the 90 point, all the way through the song.

Then Save with Patches and Harmony.

The song should now always send that CC1 of 90 whenever loaded and/or whenever you hit Play.

Good idea to save these songs in a seperate folder using SaveAs and don't overwrite the originals in case the day comes when you want to use those songs with an ordinary GM MIDI synth.


--Mac

Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 507
R
Journeyman
Offline
Journeyman
R
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 507
Dan, you can see in the midi monitor that BB zeros cc#1 upon hitting play and upon stopping. Mac has outlined a viable countermeasure.

But re. Mike's comment:

Quote:

Sorry Dan, I should have thought of this first thing. The JABB brass & reeds require cc#1 values for volume




Mike, it's been a long while since I've looked at your scripts or used JABB. Weren't the scripts intended to start the mod wheel at some mid-range value? -Ron

Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 104
M
Apprentice
Offline
Apprentice
M
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 104
Quote:

Mike,

In your experience what is the best way to change the expressions (creshendo's etc) Do you do it after you recorded the melody in the melody editor in biab, or do you try to create that while recording the melody? If the latter, what means do you use to create the creshendo's?

DAn




Dan,

The best results will be obtained varying the cc#1 (modwheel) data. This can be recorded or drawn in the piano roll view as Mac pointed out. Also portamento (cc#20) and overlapped notes in combination with cc#64 are also important controllers for realism. The JABB documentation explains these and other midi parameters the instruments respond to. Or as Ron indicated the Phrase Modeled Performance Multi will automate the generation of all the JABB midi parameters. Mikes K2 Scripts

Previous Thread
Next Thread
Go To
Page 3 of 3 1 2 3

Link Copied to Clipboard
ChatPG

Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.

ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.

PG Music News
Band-in-a-Box® 2024 Review: 4.75 out of 5 Stars!

If you're looking for a in-depth review of the newest Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows version, you'll definitely find it with Sound-Guy's latest review, Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows Review: Incredible new capabilities to experiment, compose, arrange and mix songs.

A few excerpts:
"The Tracks view is possibly the single most powerful addition in 2024 and opens up a new way to edit and generate accompaniments. Combined with the new MultiPicker Library Window, it makes BIAB nearly perfect as an 'intelligent' composer/arranger program."

"MIDI SuperTracks partial generation showing six variations – each time the section is generated it can be instantly auditioned, re-generated or backed out to a previous generation – and you can do this with any track type. This is MAJOR! This takes musical experimentation and honing an arrangement to a new level, and faster than ever."

"Band in a Box continues to be an expansive musical tool-set for both novice and experienced musicians to experiment, compose, arrange and mix songs, as well as an extensive educational resource. It is huge, with hundreds of functions, more than any one person is likely to ever use. Yet, so is any DAW that I have used. BIAB can do some things that no DAW does, and this year BIAB has more DAW-like functions than ever."

Happy Easter! Holiday Hours...

2024 is well underway - it's already Easter Weekend!

Our Customer Service hours this weekend are:

Friday, March 29: 8-4
Saturday, March 30: 8-4
Sunday, March 31: closed

Regular hours resume Monday, April 1st - no joke!

Convenient Ways to Listen to Band-in-a-Box® Songs Created by Program Users!

The User Showcase Forum is an excellent place to share your Band-in-a-Box® songs and listen to songs other program users are creating!

There are other places you can listen to these songs too! Visit our User Showcase page to sort by genre, artist (forum name), song title, and date - each listing will direct you to the forum post for that song.

If you'd rather listen to these songs in one place, head to our Band-in-a-Box® Radio, where you'll have the option to select the genre playlist for your listening pleasure. This page has SoundCloud built in, so it won't redirect you. We've also added the link to the Artists SoundCloud page here, and a link to their forum post.

We hope you find some inspiration from this amazing collection of User Showcase Songs!

Congratulations to the 2023 User Showcase Award Winners!

We've just announced the 2023 User Showcase Award Winners!

There are 45 winners, each receiving a Band-in-a-Box 2024 UltraPAK! Read the official announcement to see if you've won.

Our User Showcase Forum receives more than 50 posts per day, with people sharing their Band-in-a-Box songs and providing feedback for other songs posted.

Thank you to everyone who has contributed!

Video: Volume Automation in Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows®

We've created a video to help you learn more about the Volume Automation options in Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows.

Band-in-a-Box® 2024: Volume Automation

www.pgmusic.com/manuals/bbw2024full/chapter11.htm#volume-automation

Video: Audio Input Monitoring with Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows®

We've created this short video to explain Audio Input Monitoring within Band-in-a-Box® 2024, and included some tips & troubleshooting details too!

Band-in-a-Box® 2024: Audio Input Monitoring

3:17: Tips
5:10: Troubleshooting

www.pgmusic.com/manuals/bbw2024full/chapter11.htm#audio-input-monitoring

Video: Enhanced Melodists in Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows®!

We've enhanced the Melodists feature included in Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows!

Access the Melodist feature by pressing F7 in the program to open the new MultiPicker Library and locate the [Melodist] tab.

You can now generate a melody on any track in the program - very handy! Plus, you select how much of the melody you want generated - specify a range, or apply it to the whole track.

See the Melodist in action with our video, Band-in-a-Box® 2024: The Melodist Window.

Learn even more about the enhancements to the Melodist feature in Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows at www.pgmusic.com/manuals/bbw2024upgrade/chapter3.htm#enhanced-melodist

Forum Statistics
Forums66
Topics81,399
Posts732,551
Members38,442
Most Online2,537
Jan 19th, 2020
Newest Members
danielsk, Mark Morgan, zagrajbarke, Ernest J, Izzy
38,442 Registered Users
Top Posters(30 Days)
MarioD 199
Al-David 132
DC Ron 115
rsdean 85
dcuny 83
Today's Birthdays
(charlie), WobblyGstring
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5