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#214945 - 09/14/13 01:24 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: 2013.5 [Re: fgrittner]
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#214994 - 09/14/13 05:10 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: 2013.5 [Re: joden]
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Originally Posted By: joden
I'd rather see them introduce a 48kHz sample rate first. I am getting tired of having to keep re-setting the audio interface back to 48 after using BIAB. Every other music app runs at 48, but not BIAB!


Why is this such a big deal? Are you doing a ton of video work, where 48k is the standard for audio?

When I use BiaB for a Video Project, I just convert the finished tracks to 48 using r8brain....
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#215003 - 09/14/13 07:09 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: 2013.5 [Re: Pat Marr]
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I like to use 48khz - why should I allow a program dictate HOW I want to run things. I know 48 is primarily for DVD, but I prefer it.

My whole system (including WMP) is set to 48...and I am aware I can run 44.1 @ 24bit but I prefer 48!!

So yeah it is an issue wink

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#215119 - 09/15/13 03:09 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: 2013.5 [Re: Pat Marr]
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Got ya!
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#215192 - 09/16/13 02:38 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: 2013.5 [Re: Pat Marr]
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Good grief. Joden you probably don't know that years ago when the old Soundblaster cards were the standard they were locked at 48hz? Musicians using home studios hated SB cards because they weren't considered pro level cards because of that 48hz sample rate. That caused all kinds of problems when using midi softsynths because the CD standard and the standard for all pro and semi pro audio software is 44.1. There were tons, gazillions, whatever term you want to use posts about about that here because it could cause the midi sound to drift out of synch with audio tracks due to the sample rate difference. There were workarounds for that but most hated it.

When proper pro level midi/audio interfaces came out using the 44.1 standard all the studio types dumped those SB cards and breathed a big sigh of relief.

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#215194 - 09/16/13 03:07 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: 2013.5 [Re: Pat Marr]
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Actually, the "pro" rate is 48KHz.

That is because 48KHz is an even division of 96KHz.


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#215199 - 09/16/13 03:34 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: 2013.5 [Re: jazzmammal]
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Originally Posted By: jazzmammal
Good grief. Joden you probably don't know that years ago when the old Soundblaster cards were the standard they were locked at 48hz?


Yep, I surely did Bob wink and I was totally aware of all the issues too smile

Just to let you know, I started PC music on an Atari STe with Steinberg Pro 12, so I have been around the whole PC music thing for a few months wink

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#215214 - 09/16/13 05:49 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: 2014 64bit [Re: Pat Marr]
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Most application that go 64bit have a 32bit version also.
I don't think you are going to get a 64bit only.
Bob...

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#215242 - 09/16/13 09:05 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: 2014 64bit [Re: Pat Marr]
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Yeah, I know Mac.

Not trying to start a flame war or anything but I've read tons of articles over the years about this, some very technical some consumer friendly and bottom line 44.1 is the CD standard for whatever reason while 48 is the video standard.

This is an audio forum for an audio software company where lots of folks want to produce a CD of their work, therefore PG made a decision to keep everything 44.1 for simplicity.

It just bugs me when someone wants something out of the ordinary so bad he puts double punctuation marks on it!!

See what that just did? It's like I'm some little kid shouting, while remove those double punctuation marks and it's just a simple sentence.

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#215244 - 09/16/13 10:14 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: 2014 64bit [Re: jazzmammal]
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Originally Posted By: jazzmammal

It just bugs me when someone wants something out of the ordinary so bad he puts double punctuation marks on it!!

See what that just did? It's like I'm some little kid shouting, while remove those double punctuation marks and it's just a simple sentence.

Bob


You should learn to lighten up, if tiny inconsequential things like that annoy you. I would not like to see what you really get pissed at!!!!!!!!! wink

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#215245 - 09/16/13 10:15 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: 2014 64bit [Re: jazzmammal]
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I think they are going to have the option of 24bit 48khz for the AudioPhile version so you can choose what you use.
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#215247 - 09/16/13 10:38 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: 2014 64bit [Re: joden]
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#215293 - 09/17/13 10:35 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: 2013.5 [Re: Mac]
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Originally Posted By: Mac
Actually, the "pro" rate is 48KHz.

That is because 48KHz is an even division of 96KHz.



And 44.1 is a even division of 88.2.......grin
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#215295 - 09/17/13 10:39 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: 2014 64bit [Re: jazzmammal]
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Originally Posted By: jazzmammal

This is an audio forum for an audio software company where lots of folks want to produce a CD of their work, therefore PG made a decision to keep everything 44.1 for simplicity.


False flag, there are CD burning softwares that do the conversion from 48 to 44.1, or 96 to 44.1, or even 192 to 44.1, on the fly.

If the man wants to run at 48KHz, then the man wants to run at 48KHz.

Use of exclamation points aside.

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and which cannot fail to keep man in everlasting ignorance.
That principle is condemnation before investigation." --Edmund Spencer
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#215379 - 09/18/13 12:49 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: 2014 64bit [Re: Mac]
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Originally Posted By: Mac
That principle is condemnation before investigation." --Edmund Spencer[/i]


Or arrogance before meekness. grin
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#215380 - 09/18/13 01:23 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: 2014 64bit [Re: jcspro40]
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Originally Posted By: jcspro40
Originally Posted By: Mac
That principle is condemnation before investigation." --Edmund Spencer[/i]


Or arrogance before meekness. grin


Not even remotely similar....you would make a good tabloid headlines editor wink

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#215975 - 09/23/13 11:50 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: 2014 64bit [Re: Pat Marr]
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Well ya found me out! LOL
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#215978 - 09/24/13 12:32 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: 2014 64bit [Re: jcspro40]
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#215981 - 09/24/13 12:41 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: 2013.5 [Re: Pat Marr]
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Hi joden,

I don't visit this thread very often and, today when I did, I noticed that in an earlier post you said,

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I am getting tired of having to keep re-setting the audio interface back to 48 after using BIAB.

I have my soundcard set to 48 kHz and never have to reset it. It changes between 48 kHz and 44.1 kHz automatically.

My operating system is Vista and what I did, a few years ago, was to go to "Control Panel", select "Sound", then "Playback" (1). From there I double-clicked on "Speakers" (2), selected the "Advanced" tab (3) and then activated the "Applications take exclusive control" (4) option.



This works for me. Maybe set-ups have changed in Windows 7 but I mention this on the off-chance that it's useful information.

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#215999 - 09/24/13 07:51 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: 2013.5 [Re: Noel96]
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Thanks Noel

That's great advice. This could resolve a lot of issues for many users.

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