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Here's the thing - I am very used to adding an RT track to maybe Melody or Soloist when I want more instruments but HOW do I do that if I want to add one of the BIAB midi instruments that you find on the left hand side of the screen?
As you can see I click on "Melody" and select "Vibes" in the box but I cant see anyway of adding it - it remains empty and right clicking to the menu doesnt appear to give me the option.
What am I missing please?


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The MIDI dropdown is dependent on the particular Style file having MIDI data on the track in question. If the Style has no MIDI data for the chosen Vibes there, you won't hear anything.

See where it says, "<Empty>" to the left just above the dropdown?


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Thanks Mac
Yes I see that. That was what I was getting at. I couldnt find a way of "uploading" the midi I wanted into the "empty" tracks and you have explained why.
So - if a Style is set up (like P_PHIL_C Style is)as midi tracks, I can change the existing'yellow' tracks to other midi instruments that are in that grey box dropdown, and even change them to RTs or Midi Super Tracks or Hi-Q, but any others I add into it(in this case Melody or Soloist are available)MUST be RTs etc and can't be midi?
I guess that is a bit of a rhetorical question because that seems to be the way it is.
The Workround seems to be to make 2 SGUs, the second one changing the midi instruments to the others that I want.
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Six,

1. Click on the RT Picker (sax icon)
2. Select RT Picker dialog on top
3. This brings up an "Assign to this track" section
4. On the right are 4 options
5. Click MIDI

From here you choose the BB track and the desired style.

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Hi Percy
Everything works as you say it does - EXCEPT that Nothing Happens - the "Melody" track remains empty and no midi is put in there. You can see I selected "Vibes" and asked for it to go to the Melody track and clicked OK.
It didnt work. Any ideas why?
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You'll need to initially generate the midi track on any track other than the solo or melody track. As Mac pointed out,
they have no BB parts.

So you can generate on the piano track and then just move it over to the solo or melody.

HTH.

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Hi Percy
OK - I changed Piano in the SGU to pick up "Vibes" and generated Play. It plays fine in that position.
Then I went to the Real Tracks Picker Dialog (via Sax icon), clicked on Melody (where I want it to go) and MIDI. From "Instrument" I clicked up "12.Vibes" and under "From Track" I put "Piano" (where it currently is).
Clicked OK and nothing happened. Did I miss a step?
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Ian,

In your last screen shot:

Next to the FROM STYLE; enter the style with the vibes you want

Next to the FROM TRACK; enter the BB part with the vibes, e.g. piano, strings etc.

Also, make sure the vibes play on a and b part markers.


BTW, I looked over the tutorial and you can assign midi tracks to the solo and melody.

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I've re-read your posts, and it seems you may just want to generate a vibes solo.

In that case, all you need to do is click on the soloist button and select one of vibe solos.

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Hi Percy
No - I want it as additional backing.I want to kep the Piano midi and ADD the native midi Vibes
I usually put RT tracks in the Melody and Soloist as additional backing ( I play SOLO guitar) but this time the midi Vibes is perfect for what I want.
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Ian,

I've been assuming the vibes are in a BB style. If so, please refer to an earlier post. If native midi vibes are something different, then beats me. Or did you open up a midi file in BB?

I'm out the door for a gig. Hope you can get it solved.

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Hi Ian,

I've been reading through the above posts about the Melody and the Soloist tracks. My understanding of these is as follows.

1. From a Reatrack perspective ...

These tracks can be used as locations for Realtrack instruments and thus it's possible to generate Realtracks using these BIAB 'slots'.

2. From a midi perspective ...

When it comes to midi, the behaviour of the Melody and Soloist tracks reverts to their normal, pre-Realtrack function. These tracks were designed as locations to store a song's melody or melodic improvisations. This is why when one records midi, it is only possible to record it to these two tracks. As far as I'm aware, from a midi perspective, these tracks have never been able to act as 'slots' for BIAB-generated accompaniments.

As has been pointed out above, it's possible to use the Melodist or Soloist to generate notes for these parts. Some of these generations may well fill the role that you need.

Other than that, it would be necessary to generate the backing track you want using Guitar / Piano / Strings, save it as a wav file. This wav file could then be imported into the Audio track and played as part of the accompaniment.

Note: If you have BIAB 2013, it would also be able to rename the wav file so that it becomes a 'Performance file' that could be attached to any track.

What I would do in your situation is to go to Realband. That will allow you to do what you are after with minimum fuss.

Hope this helps.

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Hi Noel
thanks for the info, as always comprehensive and sensible.
I have BIAB2013 ( I upgraded this year from 2008.5 this year - what a Difference!).
I have studiously ignored RB after a few failed attempts to use it - almost certainly ME, not the DAW. COuld never get the Drag and Drop to work for one thing!! lol!!
I use an old DAW, Cakewalk GTPro2 (2003) which I love the touchy feely interface of, but I think I'm going to have to accept that things move on and I really should get a grip of RB.
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