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This is a track from a new Eagles album yes? Wow, what a terrific song, perfectly constructed. Thoroughly enjoyable all the way through, a very pleasurable journey. Well done!
I confess to agreeing with Rog a teeny-weeny bit, sorry! I'd like a bit more emotion and involvement in the vocal and less 'Talent Show' finale 'your vote counts', but that doesn't detract too much from a very professional vocal sound, from, well a professional. Jason should ask you if he can use it on his own albums, I can see a hit track here.
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Hey John, Sorry it's taken me so long to get back to you. 'Life' has been keeping me occupied lately and made it difficult to keep up with the forums. Thank you for having a listen. I really appreciate your time and your comments. Your thoughts always help me see aspects of my work though other eyes and that's very valuable to me. Must be just about time for another song from you All the best, Noel
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Noel,
What an excellent song! I thought the production was outstanding and I liked his vocal... Also some tasty guitar work.
Great Job!
Greg
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Hi Greg, Thanks for dropping by. I appreciate the positive feedback! Jason is a talented guy, there's no doubting that. I hope he's reading these comments He deserves all the kudos he's getting! All the best, Noel
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Noel, Wonderful song. I loved everything about. Thanks for posting. SD
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Hi SpaceDog,
It's great to see you back in the forum again. Thanks for the positive words. I appreciate the smile that followed after I read them.
All the best, Noel
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remarkable indeed! the melody and lyric and vocal - just wow!
Super job all the way around!
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Hi Lawrence,
Your comments were a great way to begin my day! Thank you for that. I appreciate your having a listen to the song.
All the best, Noel
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Hi Noel,
Now that's a chorus that begs to be sung along to.
Sounds great, thanks for posting.
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Hi ROG, I did a heap of volume shaping of the vocal line to try and create an emotional contour that sat with how I heard the lyrics and music. (See the image below of the start of the third/last chorus.) EDIT: P.S. In case forum readers are wondering, the big, square dips on either side of "change" are to tame the "CH" and the "J" sounds at either end of the word. The curvy dip on "-bout" is bring that syllable under control in relation to the surrounding lyrics. On the above clip... I might have reduced the gain -2db on the word "bout" to see if that worked and perhaps muted the little nub after "change" if it was objectionable. "Don't" may also have gotten a -1 or -2 db cut.... but the rest looked pretty even to my eye. Of course, the ear is the critical factor here and not the eye..... I use both in my edits. Do I hear something that sounds "off normal"? If so, have a look. DO I see it? If yes, and normally I can see the issue..... then I fix it.... eyeballing and listening. I don't use this level of detail or control on a vocal track. I do use volume envelopes but more as a general overall level adjustment depending on the vocal track and the part of the song it's in. Now, I will go in and edit carefully if there are objectionable breath noises, lip smacks and other such noises. I generally use the "process audio>mute" in my DAW for that sort of clean up. That way, it totally disappears. I am not adverse to using the volume envelope to lower a certain sung note or word that seems to stick out too loudly. I also use it to raise the lower volume words on occasion. More often than not, I will use the process audio with gain increase or reduction and play through the part to check it in context as opposed to using the envelope for that. Most of my hard enveloping is on the instrument tracks.
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You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.comAdd nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both. The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.
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Hi Frank,
Thank you for having a listen! I appreciate it.
Best wishes, Noel
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Hi again, Herb. Thank you for your thoughts. When I read ... Of course, the ear is the critical factor here and not the eye..... I use both in my edits. Do I hear something that sounds "off normal"? If so, have a look. DO I see it? If yes, and normally I can see the issue..... then I fix it.... eyeballing and listening. ... I found myself nodding my head and thinking, "That's pretty much how I work, too". The 'look and listen' approach definitely pays dividends. I also find that listening live and listening through headphones are both necessary because they occasionally seem to emphasise different aspects. As I mentioned in an earlier post in this thread, one of the things I find with compressors is that words that are normally quite soft in speech (words like: a, the, an, it, to, my, etc.) get their volumes lifted and they sometimes lack the conversational level after compression. So I adjust those down. Another thing that I do in Reaper is to use the "Split track at prior zero crossing". Once this is done, I can then add an independent envelope (volume, pan, etc.) to each of the split sections. By dragging this envelope up and down, that section of the wav file is modified on-screen to show me the changes. I find that being able to see these changes is very useful (just like you've already mentioned). Because I cross at the "prior zero", I mostly eliminate clicks and pops that sometimes occur when making these kinds of adjustments. Thanks for taking the time to reply. I found your reading very useful. Kind regards, Noel
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Noel,
That is such a pretty song. Everything about it was stellar! And yes, this is a splendid Demo...you got your money's worth and more, I would think. We totally enjoyed our listen!
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Hi Al and Di,
Thanks for dropping in a having a listen. The backing is pretty all Band In A Box. The demo singer, Jason Wyatt, played some fill in riffs on two different guitars. All I did was to use those in a way that sounded right to me when I was putting the mix together. Glad it worked for you!
Best wishes, Noel
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This is a great song.. and well executed .
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Hi Rob,
I appreciate your stopping by. Thank you.
I can't take all the credit for how this one sounds. If you take Band In A Box and Jason Wyatt out of the equation, I don't think I'd have too much left to hang my hat on (some notes, some words and a few ideas, maybe)!
Every time I write a song, I always pause and think about how amazing BIAB is. Seriously. And it always happens without thinking about it. BIAB really does let me do what I know I couldn't do otherwise. We're lucky people to have discovered this program!
Woops ... I think I just jumped up on a soapbox of some kind. Better jump back down.
Best wishes, Noel
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Great song, great vocals, nice mix.
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Hi Elliott,
Thank you for opening the thread and popping inside. I appreciate the positive feedback.
All the best, Noel
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I have no idea how I missed commenting on this one - mea culpa Noel!
My better half mentioned this song and we wanted to hear it again, and I think others might want to hear it again as well.
This is absolutely stunning....a masterpiece.
Regards,
Bob
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I miss a lot on this forum. Glad I didnt miss this one. It's delightful in all departments. And such clarity. Cheers.
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