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Mus #224158 11/30/13 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted By: Mus
Well, it would be great if they have spent the time making the holds, shots and endings sound more natural across all styles and maybe fixing the midi file output.

Already a great product for the most part but I find these 'little' things spoil it sometimes. Very fiddly to get them all right I daresay but essential for the finished article.

I would rather they did that than release more and more Gigabytes of real instruments that only work 90%.

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I agree, the intros and endings seem an after thought but a good ending or intro can really make a song come alive. The other thing I've noticed is that the sound quality between real styles vary a lot. This is not so could if putting an album together and you use different styles from say "country" sets. Some will have better drums sounds than others, better base sounds than others etc. The differences are massive. I doubt PG Music could solve that but certainly record new real tracks with better levels, mixing and recording equipment for better continuity between tracks.

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Ruby took me years to learn Cubase, I haven't used it at all this year. BIAB I use every day and I have never 'learnt' the program. I just type in some chords, pick a style and off I go, sometimes I dont even have to do this!

If you learn RB then the fundamentals of recording will be apparent without the numerous options, and options of the options of the options that Cubase has.

Tinny speakers - not good for mixing, but... listening to the final mix through them is educational as that is what your listeners may be using. Many great producers do this - Phil Spector, Quincy.. so you just might want to keep them in your studio smile

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WOW 2014 is here!! This is UNBELIEVABLE! Now Let me go back to see the details!

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Yes, version 2014 has been here for two hours now, and there are great discounts in effect through the end of December.

We'll see you on the forum with user questions now, right? Enjoy.


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Matt Finley #224521 12/01/13 12:50 AM
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I just bought BiaB WOW I AM IN THE GAME of production. My songwriting will be back better than ever. My online albums will be in over 750 Stores. My dreams are coming true!!! lol I just ordered it all for 709 dollars total. I got the 25 dollar bonus deal. The audiophile version. They don't cut the prices for first time buyers. So I get no discounts I guess. I think they should have gave me 50 dollars off though really. But anyway I put it all on my credit card. I didn't get around to saving any money for it. I think I will pay maybe 159.00 on it tonight though. That leaves me a balance of 550 dollars. Next month pay 200. So as you can see this won't be costing me in interest. I am looking forward to getting started with this soon.

Hey Matt Finley, by the way. Do you think they added quite a bit to the program this year? Do you think it sounds like more than usual? What did you think when you first read what you are getting in the 2014 version? Since you are very experienced with this program and what you usually get. Do you think they gave you more than you expected? Let me know please.

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Thanks for the advice ZeroZero,

I like the Real Band idea for me. I don't need all the hundreds or Cubase nonsense they give you. I will do like you. Enjoy BiaB. Have some good times. Make some great recordings. No need to act like a multi-million dollar producer with a million options. How about enjoy BiaB with all the options you need. Keeping it to a happy medium with everything you need to make your songs sound great!! WOW!

It will be in the mail come Monday I am sure!!

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Yes Finely, now I will inundate the forum with questions instead of my BiaB dreams! I will add more substance to the forum with questions and when I learn some things I will answer some questions later also lol

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Congratulations on your purchase. Yes, I am a twenty-year user. In all that time, I have never been disappointed in a new version. Sometimes we don't get all that we asked for in new features, but that is always offset by brilliant innovations that we come to appreciate once we understand them. This version includes changes that address two common requests, to overhaul the user interface and allow users to create their own RealTracks. As time goes on, that will be a game changer for this program. Don't overlook some of the exciting developments in MIDI, too. There's more than enough new here to excite.

And it's not a well-kept secret that some of us are beta testers, so we have been using the new program for awhile. That's why I'm hanging around tonight, to answer questions about the new version where I can. My knowledge goes way beyond reading about the new features.


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Hey I just ordered the 669 Audiophile deal. But I just noticed this Omnipack for 769.00. Maybe I should get that. Does any of you know about that one? Sounds like you get a lot more. I may have to cancel to order that. Tell me more about that if you can.

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Originally Posted By: Matt Finley
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And it's not a well-kept secret that some of us are beta testers, so we have been using the new program for awhile. That's why I'm hanging around tonight, to answer questions about the new version where I can. My knowledge goes way beyond reading about the new features.


Matt, some screen captures of the new user interface would be great!


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Matt, some screen captures of the new user interface would be great!

The BiaB 2014 New Features video right on the PGMusic homepage provides you with way more than just a few screenshots.

Have fun


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Here's a screenshot of Ray's setup, taken during the beta, chosen because I thought it looks nice.

Bear in mind that things like toolbars, etc. at the top half are User Customizable now, you can choose to eliminate or add icons, etc. in order to have what YOU want to see at any given time.


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You are saying now people can create their own Real Tracks? Before nobody could create them? But now they can? How was this allowed? What did they do to the program that made this possible? Also if this is true will producers be out selling BiaB Real Tracks that they have created themselves? So we will see Larry's Jazz Real Tracks for 50 dollars online?

Also I cancelled out my order and bought the OmniPAK Audiophile for 100 more dollars. Coming to 809.00 delivered. I thought maybe I should go for it. I just bought a new guitar a few months ago and it looks like they have a lot of nice lessons. If I can learn something from these lessons I will have spent my 100 dollars wisely. If I were to buy all of these separately it would cost me a bundle. Some of the program I might never use. But I think it might have been a good idea to go for it.

I also went for the 25 dollar Bonus for the 2014. So I got everything I could get. This is a good investment for me. I know 800 dollars is a lot for poor boy's on a limited income but I will take maybe 4 months to pay this off. When I start putting together some great tracks with this I can start my songwriting. I will put together my music first. Then I will put my words and music to my tracks. Start writing my albums. I will listen to The Great American Songbook for some great ideas.

I sing these songs in Second Life Live all of the time. I try and emulate the singers most of the time. Sinatra, Perry Como, Dean Martin, Tony Bennett. I do my best. If I can write songs similar to what these guys have done WOW! But who knows what I will come up with. As I said before one of my first projects is to do something like Sinatra did with Antonio Carlos Jobim with some Bossa Nova flavor to it. That is my hope. I think they have a lot of Bossa Nova with BiaB.

Anyway I will have plenty to work on in 2014. I am sure some of my BiaB productions will be great. I will become a prolific songwriter again after many years of not writing. I will create my own music business. No need to contact any of the Big Shot companies. No need to beg for their acceptance. I am doing my own thing. I will sell some online albums. Even if it is 2 or 3 albums a month I am a winner lol. This is all for my own satisfaction. Sure who knows I might try to submit them to a couple companies for kicks later. But really it is all for my own entertainment!! We are all stars wit BiaB by our side!!

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Hi Sly

Congratulations on your purchase. I wish you the very best, and encourage you to be patient and take your time to learn all of the fantastic features that this program suite can provide.

I think we all admire your enthusiasm, and hope you achieve all of your aims.

Welcome to the Band in A Box Club!

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Originally Posted By: SlyRuby
... Also I cancelled out my order and bought the OmniPAK Audiophile for 100 more dollars. Coming to 809.00 delivered. I thought maybe I should go for it. I just bought a new guitar a few months ago and it looks like they have a lot of nice lessons...


I can't find any reference to the audiophile "omnipak" anywhere. Where is that discussed?


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Originally Posted By: Kemmrich


I can't find any reference to the audiophile "omnipak" anywhere. Where is that discussed?


OmniPak is shown from the online store page, Click on this Link...

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VideoTrack -- that was easy enough! (ha, ha).


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VideoTrack -- that was easy enough! (ha, ha).

But I have to admit, it's tucked away a bit and certainly doesn't jump out at us, like the others do. Maybe it's one of Peter's secrets wink


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Why not retire this post and start a 2014 - "as its happening" one?


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Why not retire this post and start a 2014 - "as its happening" one?

Yes, I agree, this thread has followed some very interesting paths. I asked about the same thing a few weeks ago.. Maybe it's time to continue these discussions under an improved / more-relevant topic heading...


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