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This problem happens with some songs, not others. I can't figure out why. When I copy a chorus section with melody and lyrics in an unfolded song to a later part of the song and insert bars at destination, I get a window with the question: "There are existing melody notes/lyrics in the region that you are copying the melody to. Would you like to delete them?" Whether I answer yes, the "Copy From ...To" copies the melody to the new bars, but leaves the chords and lyrics blank. Also, why would it ask me if I want to delete existing melody notes and lyrics where I'm copying to when I select the option to paste to newly inserted bars?
To make it really complicated, if you answer the question-- "No, don't delete the melody notes or lyrics" then it doubles the words in the from location so you end up with a jumbled up mess for lyrics, but no lyrics in the to location.
If this doesn't happen to you, keep trying other songs. You will stumble on this if you write a lot of lyrics with Band in a Box. I called support about this a couple of versions ago and sent them my song example--- I got no resolution to this.
Please fix this. It will take some time to isolate the problem. I certainly can't figure out what's going on.

--- Jim


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I've learned a lot of chords from the Guitar Tutor in the guitar window. I like to practice chords in one position at a time, slowing the tempo down, then increase the tempo as I learn them. Yet BIAB does not let you constrain the chords to one position-- they jump all over the neck. I'd like to hang out in the 5th position or A chord, then move on to the 9th position, or the open position. Better would be to have a slider to let you adjust how many frets the chords move around from the center position you choose. I would usually select 2 frets on either side. Sometimes I would constrain it to stay at that one position where I want to practice.

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The miditracks picker is a great new feature. Now I wish PGMusic will go back over their whole library of midi styles and update some parts that are really simplistic. Especially the bass, but also strings and drums. Sorry I don't have any examples right now, but this was one of the reasons for making realtracks. Sure the miditracks picker will save me a lot of time finding midi parts, but the main reason I pass them up and keep looking is because so many sound so quantized and mechanical.
Or how about making an embellisher to humanize the bass, drums, and strings? That would help, but I think a lot of the midi parts need to be re-done.

--- Jim


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TBH I've only read about 1/2 of this thread ... and I strongly concur with Norton's inciting insights.

But along with multiport midi and higher resolution, there is one feature that tops them all for me: a multichannel MIDI VSTi version.

Music Devlopments RapdidComposer (google it if you're interested) has just been updated to include a 128 track MIDI VSTi. The developer did it by himself evenings and weekends over a couple of months. This product uses 8 different instantiations of the MIDI VSTi plug ins to get it's 128 tracks ... but all using the same GUI by having tracks 1-16 go to the first instance, named ... you guessed it '1-16' ... and in the GUI tracks 17-32 go to the second GUI, etc.

Surely it wouldn't take the BIAB crew more than a few weeks to accomplish this with the number of tracks in BIAB?

The only reason I can imagine this hasn't been done is because it might be considered to conflict with the development of RealBand, as in 'keep it all in the family.'

In my opinion, this is shortsighted. There are thousands of BIAB users who are dedicated users of Cubase, Logic, ProTools, Sonar, etc., who are never going to go to RealBand as their primary DAW. Even more significantly, there are many times that many dedicated users of these other DAWs who would only be interested in buying BIAB, either as an included feature or separate product, if it were a multichannel MIDI VSTi.

Besides RapidComposer, Cognitone is shortly to release a MIDI VSTi. Simpler midi manipulation MIDI VSTi products like 7Aliens Catanya or SubarBytes TheSys or Consequence are already significant products in the general audio creation/ production market.

BIAB will miss a huge opportunity if they don't target this type of MIDI enhancement.

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1) Ability to globally adjust midi velocity of a midi track - not something that would set all velocities to a uniform level, but a window next to volume and pan in the UI that would add or subtract a certain amount to existing note velocities. Most modern sequencers have a window like this for midi tracks.

2) Access to more midi channels. RealTracks and harmonies now occupy a lot of midi channels and tracks. It would be nice to be able to load 5 or 6 RTs and still have access the full range of midi channels.

3) Thanks for adding the feature allowing the quick addition of a single midi part to a biab song. It would be really helpful if there were some quick way to audition that midi part before you load it into the song.

4) There are a lot of really nice midi parts and styles, but they are highly quantized. The humanize function in "Slide Tracks" is a good start, but I think we need a more powerful and effective way to randomize (humanize) note starts, durations and velocities in a musical way.

5) The ability to regenerate a single midi part like we can now for RealTracks

6) The ability to highlight a certain number of bars and have it regenerate. This would be helpful for midi and RealTracks.

Thanks for contuing to improve BIAB. It's a great program and getting better with each release.

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I would like the option to add a FX to a midi part when you have loaded a midi file into Band In a Box.

For example - if you load a midi file it usually ends up in the Melody track.
Clicking on the SEQ button then allows you to change an instrument, Volume etc.
I would like to be able to insert a FX on each individual instrument.

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It seems archaic now to save BIAB songs with .sgu and .mgu extensions.
When BIAB was midi only, it clearly indicated a song with a melody track. But now the melody track could just as easily have an RT.

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I would like the option to add a FX to a midi part when you have loaded a midi file into Band In a Box.

For example - if you load a midi file it usually ends up in the Melody track.
Clicking on the SEQ button then allows you to change an instrument, Volume etc.
I would like to be able to insert a FX on each individual instrument.

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What you actually want, it sounds like, is assigning each part of an existing MIDI arrangement to individual BIAB instruments. And I think that's outside the range of things BIAB can do. Fortunately, it should be handled automatically in Real Band. And then you can assign FX to each individual instrument.


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'Freezing' for measures and instruments, i.e. the ability to press Play and regenerate parts and then be able to freeze parts of that 'take' so that it isn't lost on the next Play/regenerate.

For example, I often like how an intro sounds, but would like to regenerate other parts of the song without losing that intro.


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Is there a way to set up live auto-accompaniment where playing the base note will play a midi comp in the chosen style? I was sure this was already a feature in the program but I can't figure out how. If it is not a feature I am sure I am not the only one that would like to see it added.

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I posted a new wish for a "latin" or more specific a "salsa" style melodyst and soloist.


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I posted a new wish for a "latin" or more specific a "salsa" style melodyst and soloist.




It would be nice to see many more styles and style subsets included in the melodists. I'd like to see a Country category with many more options that now exist. And I imagine many more styles could be added. I don't think the melodists have changed in quite some time. Thanks..

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It would be nice to improve the stylepicker to include All the styles present in BIAB, including the user styles.


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Real MIDI styles
For new MIDI styles, it would be nice to get Live MIDI styles, that means styles recorded live with MIDI instruments and with no or very few quantization, mainly for drums, piano, bass and guitar.


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Velocity Compressor/Expander
It would be useful to get a velocity compressor/expandor for any MIDI track. Feature could be applied on a selectable part of a track or on the whole track (parameters could be : from…to…, choice of the track#, velocity center value, velocity offset, level 0 to 100%). It would be used to add or reduce dynamics on MIDI tracks of a song. It's the equivalent of audio compressor/expander.


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ADVANCED HOLD CHORDS
For hold chords (on last bar of a section, or final hold chord for example), it would be nice to have the possibility to get an arpeggiated chord for an instrument, either piano or guitar, rather than a plain straight chord. This user option could be accessed via F5 key. For that, we can imagine, in the stylemaker, specific arpeggio hold chords for the piano and others for the guitar. It would add professionnal musicality to the BIAB performance.


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This problem happens with some songs, not others. I can't figure out why. When I copy a chorus section with melody and lyrics in an unfolded song to a later part of the song and insert bars at destination, I get a window with the question: "There are existing melody notes/lyrics in the region that you are copying the melody to. Would you like to delete them?" Whether I answer yes, the "Copy From ...To" copies the melody to the new bars, but leaves the chords and lyrics blank. Also, why would it ask me if I want to delete existing melody notes and lyrics where I'm copying to when I select the option to paste to newly inserted bars?
To make it really complicated, if you answer the question-- "No, don't delete the melody notes or lyrics" then it doubles the words in the from location so you end up with a jumbled up mess for lyrics, but no lyrics in the to location.
If this doesn't happen to you, keep trying other songs. You will stumble on this if you write a lot of lyrics with Band in a Box. I called support about this a couple of versions ago and sent them my song example--- I got no resolution to this.
Please fix this. It will take some time to isolate the problem. I certainly can't figure out what's going on.

--- Jim




O.K., I found the problem-- I hope this saves someone some time. I was using the old method of copying a song section to another section of the song. (Select bars, then Edit/Copy From.. To..) With some songs, this caused the problem outlined in the above quote. Now, after reading page 114 of the BIAB 2012 User Manual, I use the new method for more consistent results. (<cntrl> drag a bar number to a later bar number) In the dialog that appears, click "Insert Bars at destination" and press OK. Again, two windows come up saying there are existing melody notes and lyrics in the destination point, and asks should I delete them. Answer YES to both questions. Now my song section copies with melody notes and lyrics intact the way I want them. The problem of existing melody notes and lyrics still comes up in some songs, but this method works every time.


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It would be great to bring back the MIDI chorus control in the main page of BIAB, as for the reverb control. Present way to manage the chorus settings is really not handy.


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How about a feature in Powertracks that allows you to adjust timing in individual tracks in real time? This could dial in the feel of the song.

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I would like a button, close to the play button, that sends mod wheel information 127 to every track, when the song is playing.

This is only a problem if you, like me, use the Melodist feature.

I like Garritans JABB. JABB uses mod wheel info for volume. (Yes, It's a feature not a bug.) However, BiaB (if you use the Melodist feature) creates mod wheel information on the melody track which are hard to take away. The event edit list does not show all information on channel 4 (which, I believe, is the melody track). Hence, when I listen to a song in BiaB through JABB I must manually adjust mod wheel information, in order to here the JABB notes. And if I pause the song, I have to manually adjust mod wheel information again.


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