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#278252 - 01/05/15 09:25 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: On screen clarification on Styles [Re: Michael Frank]
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Well, despite a lot of support for this "very easy to introduce" feature, it never got a shot for 2015.

I somehow wonder if PGM staff ever read this forum (!?).

(What was that comment about a wishing well?)
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#278288 - 01/05/15 02:35 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: On screen clarification on Styles [Re: VideoTrack]
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Originally Posted By: VideoTrack
The Style picker uses leading characters to indicate the specific style 'type', e.g.
> Real Styles are prefaced by an underscore: _
> An asterisk (*) or (^) caret means the style is a "perfect" or "good" match
> Styles with Real Tracks are prefaced by an equals sign: =

So you can have many variations such as:
*=
^=
*_
^_
_
^

Seeing that there is some unused 'real-estate' on the Style picker form, to reduce the cryptology of these characters, and save having to often go to Help for a refresher, it would be useful for this information to be shown there as a hint for users browsing through styles, maybe like this:


I find all this "asterisk means this and tilde means that so utterly forgettable. An interface should make things apparent - not make you consult some kind of internal dictionary.

The whole screen needs radical surgery of course. Why not use color?

Z


Edited by ZeroZero (01/05/15 02:40 PM)
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#278832 - 01/08/15 12:46 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: On screen clarification on Styles [Re: CountryTrash]
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Please, no more cryptic prefixes and suffixes!

In the list browser there are better ways to signify all these variations. And since ages we can have really long filenames which could be self explaining.
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#527622 - 03/06/19 04:49 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: On screen clarification on Styles [Re: VideoTrack]
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#527643 - 03/06/19 07:07 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: On screen clarification on Styles [Re: VideoTrack]
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+1 here.

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#527648 - 03/06/19 08:12 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: On screen clarification on Styles [Re: VideoTrack]
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Still +1

The Band-in-a-Box StylePicker has received a makeover in 2019. It would be nice to see PG Music take one more look at the StylePicker and implement this suggestion.
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#527656 - 03/06/19 08:30 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: On screen clarification on Styles [Re: Jim Fogle]
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And I still need to add support.

No more cryptic characters, or tell us what they mean by way of an integrated legend, please!

+1
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#527665 - 03/06/19 09:51 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: On screen clarification on Styles [Re: VideoTrack]
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+1
And fix style picker as well, or give us back the 2018 version
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#530359 - 03/27/19 02:06 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: On screen clarification on Styles [Re: VideoTrack]
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Like the key on a map!!

I support this.
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#530572 - 03/28/19 10:54 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: On screen clarification on Styles [Re: VideoTrack]
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I guess I don't understand the problem here. What part of this is not self-evident? cool

*=
^=
*_
^_
_
^
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#530582 - 03/28/19 11:58 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: On screen clarification on Styles [Re: VideoTrack]
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As a newer user of BIAB (6 years or so) I can tell you these markers are essentially useless. Completely non-intuitive so I just ignore them (like lots of obscure or poorly documented BIAB features unfortunately.) I suspect I am not alone among non-BIAB-old-timers. I just stumble around in the program until I get some RealTracks I like for my song, export them as WAVs and exit the program as quickly as possible!

This wishlist request has been here as long as I have and it would be so simple to add as it is nothing but a list of definitions. Why they have not done it is baffling!

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#530586 - 03/28/19 12:13 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: On screen clarification on Styles [Re: VideoTrack]
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BIAB is just like windows .... the flaws make it wanted and marketable.

Everyone buys the upgrades and even downloads eagerly all the updates, with hopes bugs and wishes are fulfilled finally.

Alas, this will never happen: hackers will get away with a perfect program to distribute for free, and PG has no income anymore.

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#530596 - 03/28/19 01:12 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: On screen clarification on Styles [Re: fiddler2007]
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Originally Posted By: fiddler2007
BIAB is just like windows .... the flaws make it wanted and marketable.

Everyone buys the upgrades and even downloads eagerly all the updates, with hopes bugs and wishes are fulfilled finally.

Alas, this will never happen: hackers will get away with a perfect program to distribute for free, and PG has no income anymore.

Perhaps the most cynical statement (other than my own) I've heard around here recently! smile So you are saying they intentionally leave in/introduce flaws and bugs to thwart piracy? You might have a point with Windows but since BIAB releases new content every time which is far more important than the features/fixes I'd say that "logic" doesn't apply here.

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#530644 - 03/28/19 06:46 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: On screen clarification on Styles [Re: Matt Finley]
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Originally Posted By: Matt Finley
I guess I don't understand the problem here. What part of this is not self-evident? cool

*=
^=
*_
^_
_
^

I think it's some form of assembler code...

No, actually, I'm sure it is smirk
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#530645 - 03/28/19 06:47 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: On screen clarification on Styles [Re: VideoTrack]
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+1.

5 1/2 years later I still believe the idea is worth implementing.

The "new" StylePicker is still undergoing revisement through program updates so now is a good opportunity to add the suggested style labeling definitions.
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#531614 - 04/05/19 08:09 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: On screen clarification on Styles [Re: VideoTrack]
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Originally Posted By: VideoTrack
Seeing that there is some unused 'real-estate' on the Style picker form, to reduce the cryptology of these characters, and save having to often go to Help for a refresher, it would be useful for this information to be shown there as a hint for users browsing through styles, ...


Originally Posted By: VideoTrack
Well, despite a lot of support for this "very easy to introduce" feature, it never got a shot for 2015.

I somehow wonder if PGM staff ever read this forum (!?).

(What was that comment about a wishing well?)


Hi VideoTrack - another excellent suggestion! It has been passed along to the "powers that be".

Now if only we could get that "your wish is my command" feature working ... wink

Thanks very much everyone for the +1 feedback!
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#531643 - 04/05/19 10:35 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: On screen clarification on Styles [Re: VideoTrack]
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Thank you, Alyssa, for advocating for these requests and giving us a response here.

I fear that this request, and the 255-measure limit, are in the class of problems that probably require structural changes to the song files and some fundamental and original parts of the program. The developers must know already and must be stymied in some way from making these fixes while keeping compatibility.

I am not speaking for anyone else, but I would happily forego all new features, styles and RealTracks etc. for a year if these and other known core obstacles were successfully addressed. In my opinion it would put BIAB on a more firm footing for the future.
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#531659 - 04/05/19 12:31 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: On screen clarification on Styles [Re: Matt Finley]
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Originally Posted By: Matt Finley
Thank you, Alyssa, for advocating for these requests and giving us a response here.

I fear that this request, and the 255-measure limit, are in the class of problems that probably require structural changes to the song files and some fundamental and original parts of the program. The developers must know already and must be stymied in some way from making these fixes while keeping compatibility.

I am not speaking for anyone else, but I would happily forego all new features, styles and RealTracks etc. for a year if these and other known core obstacles were successfully addressed. In my opinion it would put BIAB on a more firm footing for the future.


I'm with you Matt.
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#531662 - 04/05/19 12:38 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: On screen clarification on Styles [Re: Alyssa - PG Music]
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Thank you Alyssa.
Providing a legend to display what the symbols means would take a few minutes of programing time.
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#531663 - 04/05/19 12:39 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: On screen clarification on Styles [Re: Matt Finley]
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Originally Posted By: Matt Finley
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I am not speaking for anyone else, but I would happily forego all new features, styles and RealTracks etc. for a year if these and other known core obstacles were successfully addressed. In my opinion it would put BIAB on a more firm footing for the future.

As per Mario's endorsement, you actually are speaking for me and I'm sure many others.
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