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#231758 - 12/30/13 04:23 PM [User Showcase] The Heavens Proclaim (Original Song)
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Well there are so many good songs going up by others that I would like to join in the fun. This is my 2nd original song. Enjoy.

https://soundcloud.com/devonbiker/the-heavens-proclaim

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I'm on a journey so this song may improve as I get better, but for now it's not a bad start.
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#231801 - 12/30/13 07:16 PM [User Showcase] Re: The Heavens Proclaim (Original Song) [Re: Paul Haynes]
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Very enjoyable song. That it had a bit of a latin feel at the first. Excellent singing as well

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#231833 - 12/30/13 10:40 PM [User Showcase] Re: The Heavens Proclaim (Original Song) [Re: Paul Haynes]
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Hi Paul...

We really enjoyed this one. That powerful kickoff with the percussions was great! We think that this is a really terrific Contemporary Christian song. It's strong musically and the lyric is current and well-written. That hint of Latin is perfect.

A tip of the hat from us for a job well done!
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#231862 - 12/31/13 03:26 AM [User Showcase] Re: The Heavens Proclaim (Original Song) [Re: Paul Haynes]
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Thanks Al-David & Scott709 I do appreciate your kind comments especially from people who are much further down the road than I am.

I just listened to that song on my iPhone & iPad. Wow not so good, vocals seem a bit shaky and somewhat raw. It's hard to mix for all the varieties of speakers people will listen on and maintain a good overall sound. Anyone else include listening through a mobile device when mixing?


Edited by PaulH (12/31/13 03:34 AM)
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#231867 - 12/31/13 04:57 AM [User Showcase] Re: The Heavens Proclaim (Original Song) [Re: Paul Haynes]
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Hi, Paul !:))

A very nice tune
excellently performed !:))
You have a good voice Paul !:))

Cheers
Dani

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#231886 - 12/31/13 07:58 AM [User Showcase] Re: The Heavens Proclaim (Original Song) [Re: Paul Haynes]
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Paul, The vocal is very good. I like the song and the production is also very good. Nice job. i liked the delay on the vocal at 3:10. The congas are just right for this one. Good Job! Tom

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#231907 - 12/31/13 09:41 AM [User Showcase] Re: The Heavens Proclaim (Original Song) [Re: Paul Haynes]
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Nice! I like the feel of the rhythm.
Song has a strong gospel message.

If you don't mind, I noticed one place that the lyric might improve. Verse 1 and verse 2 seem to be saying the same thing. A rewrite of one of those verses might make the song stronger, but I'm no expert! smile

I like the bass and conga breakdown at the end.

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#231909 - 12/31/13 09:50 AM [User Showcase] Re: The Heavens Proclaim (Original Song) [Re: Paul Haynes]
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Originally Posted By: PaulH


I just listened to that song on my iPhone & iPad. Wow not so good, vocals seem a bit shaky and somewhat raw. It's hard to mix for all the varieties of speakers people will listen on and maintain a good overall sound. Anyone else include listening through a mobile device when mixing?


Nice song....

Don't beat yourself up. As I listened I didn't hear those things on the first pass. I listen on cheap speakers as most people will be doing.

Shakey vocals are easy to fix by concentrating on the task at hand when singing. With multitrack and punch in/out, that is an easy fix. Also.... check out Melodyne Editor (or essentials) for "fixing" those vocals. I use ME on all my vocal tracks and those of the singers on my music. Even a really excellent vocal take can use some fixing. ME lets you literally take the shake out of the vocals...and a whole lot more.

Mixing for all the speakers..... nope.... don't even try. Just get a good mix that is solid and let the chips fall where they may for the others. Use some decent studio reference monitors, learn the way they sound by playing some commercially recorded music similar to your music on them, and mix accordingly. Get ARC. Automatic Room Correction software by IK Multimedia. http://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/arc/ it will do wonders for your mixing once you set it up and get it calibrated to your room. It compensates for the deficiencies in the room and lets you hear a more accurate rendering of the music. I know some folks who use it religiously and they produce some of the best home studio mixes I've heard.

I listen all the time to mobile players. I mix and export to my MP3 player and listen to the music as I go through my day at work..... I can pick out the nits that I missed in the studio. Things start to bug me and I listen closer, go back to the studio and listen there and make fixes. Generally I don't have EQ issues, but mistakes and timing issues, yup, or just a word or phrase that should be different..... or song structure sounds wrong.... that stuff only comes by listening. Cans and buds let you hear things that you might miss on the speakers.... so yeah, be sure to listen in several different ways.... but trust the monitors.

I like the song.... good job.
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#231916 - 12/31/13 10:11 AM [User Showcase] Re: The Heavens Proclaim (Original Song) [Re: robsmusic]
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Originally Posted By: robsmusic
If you don't mind, I noticed one place that the lyric might improve. Verse 1 and verse 2 seem to be saying the same thing. A rewrite of one of those verses might make the song stronger, but I'm no expert! smile


Hi Robsmusic

Thanks for your comments. Just to give some background on the song. I modelled it on Psalm 19 & Romans 1. I wanted to keep as faithful to scripture as possible. It was a song I created in Garage Band on my iPad then which ultimately lead to Band in a Box (although it sounds alittle different now) smile

Psalm 19 (NLT)
1 The heavens proclaim the glory of God.
The skies display his craftsmanship.
2 Day after day they continue to speak;
night after night they make him known.
3 They speak without a sound or word;
their voice is never heard.
4 Yet their message has gone throughout the earth,
and their words to all the world.

Romans 1 (NLT)
19 They know the truth about God because he has made it obvious to them.
20 For ever since the world was created, people have seen the earth and sky. Through everything God made, they can clearly see his invisible qualities- his eternal power and divine nature. So they have no excuse for not knowing God.


Edited by PaulH (12/31/13 10:12 AM)
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#231929 - 12/31/13 10:57 AM [User Showcase] Re: The Heavens Proclaim (Original Song) [Re: Paul Haynes]
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Thanks Guitarhacker

I do use Melodyne Editor and yes it's excellent. When I said shaky vocals I didnt mean quivering but just alittle raw sounding. Thats cause of the speakers on the mobile devices because it sounds nice on my computer. It just made me realise how different music can sound and alot of people will listen from their devices rather sat in front of some nice speakers. In fact my vocals just seemed to dominate the mix on my iphone with the music coming in distant 2nd.

All my songs at the moment are mixed on my headphones/Hi Fi until I get a pair of (probably) KRK RP8 G3.
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#231930 - 12/31/13 10:58 AM [User Showcase] Re: The Heavens Proclaim (Original Song) [Re: Paul Haynes]
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I wish there was a "like" button next to each post cause I don't want to be rude and miss thanking people for their comments. Thanks to all who posted, I've read them all. I'm now considering my next song.


Edited by PaulH (12/31/13 10:59 AM)
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#235431 - 01/16/14 09:20 AM [User Showcase] Re: The Heavens Proclaim (Original Song) [Re: Paul Haynes]
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Hi folk!

I've been testing my new KRK VXT 6 monitors. Went to check some out last Friday which was a 5 hour trip all round. VXT's are clearly better than the KRK RP range. Couldnt help myself and bought them. Wanted to try out the VXT8's but the shop didn't have any plus they were more than I could afford and bigger. My desk is quite cramped now!!

I had a go remixing The Heaven's Proclaim song, just a tweak here and there. I think the remix is slightly tighter. I can here the difference and I thought I'd post up an A/B comparison and see what you all though? I have some fret buzz on my acoustic guitar on the track (noticeable mostly on the intro), hardly noticeable cause I brought the volume down lower that I really wanted in order to hide it. Need to re-record it again! Of course there's always the chance people will say the original is better but the little I've used the VXT's I can say the flat clear response does help when mixing.

This is my playlist on SoundCloud and you will see the song duplicated for the purpose of the A/B comparison.

https://soundcloud.com/devonbiker/sets/pauls-songs





Edited by PaulH (01/16/14 09:26 AM)
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#235435 - 01/16/14 09:40 AM [User Showcase] Re: The Heavens Proclaim (Original Song) [Re: Paul Haynes]
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It's a wonderful start! The vocal is perfectly placed I think. Good song!!

Quote:
Well there are so many good songs going up


...and you just posted one.

Btw, that looks just like my studio, except yours is cleaner, better organized, and with better gear. Actually, that doesn't look like my studio at all:)


Edited by olemon (01/16/14 09:42 AM)
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#235497 - 01/16/14 04:32 PM [User Showcase] Re: The Heavens Proclaim (Original Song) [Re: Paul Haynes]
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Back for another listen...still loving it!
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#235583 - 01/17/14 07:10 AM [User Showcase] Re: The Heavens Proclaim (Original Song) [Re: Al-David]
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I only posted this up again because I had asked in another thread which were the best monitors to look out for? Monitors do take some getting use to but great for mixing.


Edited by PaulH (01/17/14 07:11 AM)
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#235586 - 01/17/14 07:18 AM [User Showcase] Re: The Heavens Proclaim (Original Song) [Re: olemon]
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Originally Posted By: olemon
Btw, that looks just like my studio, except yours is cleaner, better organized, and with better gear. Actually, that doesn't look like my studio at all:)


Funny! But I can't brag, most of the time my desk is in a mess - ask my wife! But I'm trying to keep it tidy now that I've cleared it. smile


Edited by PaulH (01/17/14 07:19 AM)
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